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    Hillary Clinton Officially Running

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  • 99thMonkey (2085 posts)
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    1. Oh no. Gawd help us. This is the worst news I have heard, since Trump won.

    This makes the Perez v. Ellison fight even more important; since Perez is Hillary’s wolf in sheeps clothing.

  • MistaP (3710 posts)
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    2. here's the article

    At the moment, of course, the idea of another Clinton presidential campaign—what would be the fifth since 1992—seems outlandish, even exhausting. Who’d want to go through all that mess again? But four years is plenty of time for memories to subside.

    And it’s true that in another era, a candidate Clinton’s age might have been deemed too old for the presidency. But in 2020, Hillary Clinton will be 73, one year younger than the incumbent seeking reelection.

    Also in another era, her political career might have been seen as having passed its expiration date. She’s twice run for the White House—and lost. But Ronald Reagan didn’t think that way. He ran in 1968, and again in 1976, nearly beating the incumbent Gerald Ford for the GOP nomination, before his ultimate victory in 1980.

    Yes, barring some calamity, Clinton is running. And this brave columnist will go one step further. Not only will Clinton run again, she has an excellent shot at getting the Democratic Party nomination again. But only if she approaches it quite differently. Here’s some advice for her.


    http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ (Third Way = Bell Curve)
  • Downwinder (1678 posts)
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    3. Got to keep the money flowing.

  • Rozinante (2131 posts)
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    4. Foundation donation decline must be worse that they're letting on.

    Gotta have some Quo to sell to roll in the Quid.

  • DiehardLiberal (738 posts)
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    5. Oh %$#&!!! Hopefully, Mother Nature will intervene and make that


    • Dragon Turtle (147 posts)
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      11. She (Mother Nature) might have to

      stop HRH. People are fooling themselves that HRH will stop or is done running for US President.  As long as she draws breath she and her lackeys and cult will try.  I think few two things can stop her from trying again: The first is a series of events in which HRH charged, tried, convicted  and imprisoned for her crimes (unlikely to happen) or she keels over (her keeling over might be the only way the life earth is saved)(not threatening her life disclaimer).

      Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth - Albert Einstein "The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." Gustave Le Bon
  • cascadiance (1386 posts)
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    6. We really need to move to get ranked choice voting deployed heavily by 2018!

    So, that we have a hope to have it perhaps be a big topic for 2020 if we can find a way to have it in the presidential election then.  Republicans will probably try to find a way to stop it getting to presidential election by that time though.  Maybe though if we can get the electoral college thrown out, which there is a lot of movement to do now, we can get RCV deployed in that reform conversation.

    It is important that by that election, most votes for Hillary will be seen as SECOND PLACE votes (that would have been SECOND PLACE votes in this election that really wanted Bernie or someone else over both Trump and Clinton).  That would then tell her that no one really likes her, unlike our screwed up election system we have now, which hides how much we hate her when so many also hated Trump just as much.

    Vote AGAINST the race to the bottom by both corporate parties who seek to screw workers over globally!                                                                                  
  • djean111 (2674 posts)
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    7. Oh, this is all about the money, I believe.

    No influence to sell at the present time.

    I don’t care who the fuck else is running.  Hillary will not get my vote.

    You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
  • broiles (492 posts)
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    8. Please no.

  • FanBoy (5737 posts)
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    9. what a set-up.

  • Mario (239 posts)
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    10. Sounds like opinion and speculation to me.

    Doesn’t sound like something 100% official.

    • RealityCheck (509 posts)
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      12. I made this speculation right after Trump won the GE

      and I was told by some here that it would never happen. All I can say is …… never say never. Especially when it comes to this corrupt pos Clinton who wants nothing but a ‘first ever’ title to boost her personal agenda(s) and lying selfish ego. This is reason # 99 for a Progressive Party to be formed ASAP! Even if Bernie doesn’t want nothing to do with it, sobeit. Let some progressive young guns get in there and make it happen!!!!!