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    • Ichingcarpenter (2614 posts)
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      1. I'm trying to trace down the date of those pictures

      Can’t find anything yet.

      • Ichingcarpenter (2614 posts)
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        4. The first recording of this photo on the internet was this week

        so I think the photo is current.

    • Fordfairlanestl (226 posts)
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      2. Why doesn't HRC retire?

      Many wish she’d just move on with her life and retire. The days of establishment politics will soon be gone. I’m guessing 2-4 years.

      There is no one like Bernie Sanders. NO ONE!!!
      • Ichingcarpenter (2614 posts)
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        3. I think that if this story is correct on the meeting

        then it has to do with Clinton’s possible legal woes which includes what the feds have in Weiner’s laptop which may lead to a criminal indictment.

        There is also recent talk from the Hill.com and realpundit.com on Obama pardoning her. Plus the federal court just gave her a set back on her emails.

        I thought the meetup is interesting  in regards to recent developments …… they weren’t talking about golf and grand kids.

        • Koko (1912 posts)
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          20. From the article, it does look like Huma is in legal proceedings

           

          From the article:
          ——-

          Last week, Abedin asked a judge to allow her to review a search warrant the FBI used to gain access to emails related to Clinton’s private server shortly before the election.

          In a letter filed in Manhattan federal court, Abedin said she was never provided a copy of the warrant, nor was her estranged husband, Weiner, whose computer contained the emails.
          The letter was filed as a federal judge considers whether to unseal the application for the search warrant, which was obtained after FBI Director James Comey informed Congress of newly discovered emails on October 28.

          The FBI seized the laptop owned by Weiner in October, in an unrelated investigation into sexual messages he exchanged with a 15-year-old girl.
          ——-snip
          Some senior Democrats claimed Comey might have broken the Hatch Act, which forbids federal officials from interfering in an election.

          Abedin’s lawyers said she was unable to evaluate the issue as neither she nor Weiner was provided with the warrant itself, despite federal rules requiring authorities to provide a warrant to a person whose property was taken.

        • Samantha (492 posts)
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          26. Your first sentence in this post is exactly what I was thinking

          Someone mentioned to me today that Trump will not want Hillary to be indicted because he too has “issues” that could be brought into the public light by his successor.  Consequently, he is setting a good example to help cover his own flank….

          Sam

      • Betty Karlson (2699 posts)
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        31. Because in her "pneumonia"-riddled worldview, she can do no wrong.

        I suspect she just wanted to intimidate Abedin about any upcoming legal woes. Make sure the former flunky is still willing to take the fall, and all that.

        "Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
    • night (153 posts)
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      5. so much for my hope that this election meant

      never seeing another Clinton face in the news.

      Let alone my thought that the Democratic Party hierarchy might wake up to reality.

      • Cassiopeia (1200 posts)
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        7. As a country and as lifelong Dems we desperately need

        Clinton to be in the news.

        We need to see her being walked to booking in chains.

        We need to see her in the courtroom begging for leniency.

        We need to see her cry as they lock her and her cohorts up for their remaining life.

        Democrats haven't been this mad since a Republican freed their slaves.  I couldn't be happier, they deserve it for shoving the most flawed Democrat in the history of the US down our throats.
    • night (153 posts)
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      6. Is that not a pantsuit?

      impossible to believe, but worse than a pantsuit – what the hell is that?

      • Whisp (1842 posts)
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        8. She's got money stashed in that hem. Ringling Bros haute couture?

        “Non-conformity is the only real passion worth being ruled by.” ― Julian Assange
        • PADemD (637 posts)
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          10. We had dresses hemmed like that

          approx 60 years ago.

      • PADemD (637 posts)
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        9. Not that style, again!

        Anyone else remember dresses with hems that turned under into puffy scallops?

        • FanBoy (4561 posts)
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          33. What era? I dont remember it

          • PADemD (637 posts)
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            34. The 50's

            Back then, everything had to be ironed; and those hems were a bitch to iron.  I don’t think the style lasted too long.  I can only remember one dress with hems like that.

            • FanBoy (4561 posts)
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              35. yeah, i dont remember dresses like that though it seems possible

              • PADemD (637 posts)
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                36. Here's an example.

                • FanBoy (4561 posts)
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                  37. oooh — better than the clinton version. she's a fashion nightmare, i swear.

                  its like she took the bottom half of the dress and sewed it up in her grandma’s old drapes.  that Victorianish flower pattern doesn’t work well for an older woman, esp one on the international public stage whos overweight (and then coupled with black utilitarian high-waters and shoes?)

                  might work well for a wispy hippie/artist type grandma but its like she just put on any old crap on her yet sure she spends a fortune on the crap

                  anybodys old aunt could give her better fashion advice than what shes getting — seems like shes that way with everything including her career and statesman=seeking.

                  I wonder why?

      • PennLawyer (1578 posts)
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        11. Box of documents about to be disappeared? Lost like the Whitewater files?

        Plus, bet there was a whole lotta  paper shredding and computer wiping going on during that 5 hour meeting.

        • GZeusH (816 posts)
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          15. You mean, like with a cloth??

        • cyberpj (1946 posts)
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          38. I can't believe I got this far down-thread before someone pointed out what is

          probably the most pertinent part of the meeting.

          Removal of that one documents storage box was probably the point of the entire 5 hours.

          Combing through files.

          "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" - Gandhi
      • HawkeyeX (612 posts)
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        12. Must be her $8,000 drapes she ordered

        for the White House..

         

         

         

        • Rosa Luxemburg (908 posts)
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          25. LOL!

               
      • Koko (1912 posts)
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        19. Looks to me like..

        she’s gone to a “Full Cover Up.”

        Given how selective she has been is in her wardrobe choices to make a statement, (remember the Purple for her Concession speech), this may be a desperation signal.  I’m just half-way joking.

        But, her outfit really is dreadful making it look like it was made to hide something underneath– along with the somewhat sinister visual of the boxes being hauled into what looks like her Secret Service SUV.  Usually one in her position would have a moving service come to clear out an office.  Instead it looks like Hillary had to handle this one herself.

      • Sunflower (519 posts)
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        21. That looks like a set of poofy valances I've seen somewhere.

      • RealityCheck (452 posts)
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        30. debating ,,,,

        which shredder company to run those documents off to??

    • PennLawyer (1578 posts)
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      13. Huma's body language is defensive toward HRC

      Here’s the headline on the OP link:
      Huma Abedin and Hillary Clinton Look Defeated As They Are Pictured Together for First Time for 5-Hour Meeting at Failed Candidate’s New York Office

      There are many photos included with the OP.  In some of them Huma has a forced smile/grimace.  But in nearly all of them Huma has her arms protectively crossed in front of her body. Here are just 3 of those photos.

      Crossed-Arms-on-Chest
      Both arms are folded together across the chest as an attempt to put a barrier between the person and someone or something they don’t like. Crossed-Arms-on-Chest is universal and is decoded with the same defensive or negative meaning almost everywhere. It is commonly seen among strangers in public meetings, in queues or cafeteria lines, elevators or anywhere that people feel uncertain or insecure.

      We attended a meeting of our local city council where a debate was held on the cutting down of trees by developers. The developers sat to one side of the room and their opponents, the environmentalists, sat on the other. About half those attending sat with their arms crossed at the opening of the meeting and this increased to 90% of the environmentalists when the developers addressed the audience, and almost 100% of the developers did it when the environmentalists spoke. This shows how most people will take an arms-folded position when they disagree with what they’re hearing. Many speakers fail to communicate their message to their audience because they have not seen the crossed-arms position of their listeners. Experienced speakers know that this gesture means a good ‘ice breaker’ is needed to move their audience into a more receptive position that will change their attitude from negative to positive.

      When you see someone take the arms-crossed position, it’s reasonable to assume that you may have said something with which they disagree. It may be pointless continuing your line of argument even though the person could be verbally agreeing with you. The fact is that body language is more honest than words.

      As long as someone holds an arms-folded position, a negative attitude will persist.

      Your objective should be to try to work out why they crossed their arms and to try to move the person into a more receptive position. The attitude causes the gesture to occur and maintaining the gesture forces the attitude to remain.  http://westsidetoastmasters.com/resources/book_of_body_language/chap4.html

       

      • Silver Witch (2380 posts)
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        14. I cross my arms to mask my chest after

        having a double mastectomy. Have not been able to break the haboit although I have tried consciously to stop doing it because I know people see it as a block while having a conversation.

        Not all crossed arms are defensive to the person you are speaking to.  Sometimes it is in defense of self against the world. I suspect Human feels that way!

        Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!
        • PennLawyer (1578 posts)
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          16. I agree. Huma likely does feel defensive in general.

          Her father’s deceased; her elderly mother lives in Saudi Arabia;  her husband is pretty much a constant source of sorrow and humiliation.  She put all her eggs in one basket, so to speak, expecting HRC to become president.

          Nobody has her six, as they say in the military, except Hillary, and given HRC’s lifelong pattern of always blaming everyone but herself for any failure, Huma is now at risk of ending up on HRC’s hate list.

           

          • Silver Witch (2380 posts)
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            27. Perfectly said

            Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!
        • night (153 posts)
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          23. oh silver witch

          please, we all love you, don’t do that.

          • Silver Witch (2380 posts)
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            29. Working on it night.

            Thank you for the support.

            Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!
      • Ichingcarpenter (2614 posts)
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        17. I agree with cross arms however

        They are in the back alley of the building in the evening on Dec 23  so it could also be cold outside where she is , the low was 36 that day with a small breeze and she is not dressed for outside.

        That being said in other observations she looks worn out, lost weight and  not sleeping. She’s 39 but looks like she’s aged 5 years

        Hillary doesn’t look happy with her but polite, knowing the press is there. Huma puts on a brave face and smiles. but we really don’t see any smiles from Hillary.

      • NV Wino (1662 posts)
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        18. In all fairness, it's New York and probably colder than a witch's…

        Well, fill in the blank.

        I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for that meeting, though.

            Don't blame me. I voted for Bernie and Jill.
    • Sunflower (519 posts)
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      22. OMG I just thought of something

      Can you imagine HER with PMS?  That is a scary thought.

      • night (153 posts)
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        24. that ship has sailed.

        • PennLawyer (1578 posts)
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          28. That ship is on the ocean floor, under theTitanic!

          • Betty Karlson (2699 posts)
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            32. No, it was just pneumonia. The ship was working too hard, said Bill. eom

            "Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
    • cyberpj (1946 posts)
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      39. 5 HOUR File searching and evidence retrieval/removal seems more likely. nt

      .

      "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" - Gandhi