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    Nightmare Scenario for Ryan if Dems Win Senate: Bernie Becomes Budget Chairman

    A nightmare scenario looms for Paul Ryan if Hillary Clinton wins the White House: Bernie Sanders could become chairman of the Senate Budget Committee.

    Sanders has been the ranking member since 2015 for the committee, the entity responsible for drafting and monitoring Congress’ annual budget plan. If the Democrats take the Senate this election cycle, chairing the group could provide the Vermont Senator with an important platform for his ideas, though the likelihood that Republicans will hold the House casts doubt on whether he might be able to enact much change.

    House Speaker Ryan warned of such a possibility earlier this month while addressing a group of college Republicans in Madison, Wisconsin. “If we lose the Senate, do you know who becomes chair of the Senate Budget Committee? A guy named Bernie Sanders. You ever heard of him?” he said.

    Sanders cited Ryan’s comments in a fundraising blast, helping him to to raise nearly $2 million for several down-ballot candidates in two days. Democrats have been needling Ryan over his comments — online progressive group MoveOn.org released a Halloween-themed video recently poking fun at the Speaker.

    If Sanders becomes chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, he is likely to focus on many of the same issues that have been at the center of his political career and were the focus of his presidential campaign — wealth inequality, entitlement expansion and a fairer tax code.

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  • Eggar (1133 posts)
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    1. He'll just have to open the chamber

    Doors that morning and be All

     

     

    I suppose – got no problem w/ that!

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    • tomsmom (163 posts)
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      2. Wouldn't that be fun to see?

  • TM99 (4694 posts)
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    3. This has been posted

    repeatedly, and the truth is that Schummer clearly stated that others have seniority over Sanders.  He may be given a committee chairmanship, however, it likely will not be this one.  New Dems are not going to allow ‘that old socialist’ to run the budget committee.

    This is just more propaganda and emotional manipulation.

    When you hear people raising reasoned objections to Trump’s policies and appointments, odds are that you’re listening to the sort of thoughtful dissent that’s essential to any semblance of democracy, and it may be worth taking seriously. When you hear people criticizing Trump and his appointees for doing the same thing his rivals would have done, or his predecessors did, odds are that you’re getting the normal hypocrisy of partisan politics, and you can roll your eyes and stroll on. But when you hear people shrieking that Donald Trump is the illegitimate result of a one-night stand between Ming the Merciless and Cruella de Vil, that he cackles in Russian while barbecuing babies on a bonfire, that everyone who voted for him must be a card-carrying Nazi who hates the human race, or whatever other bit of over-the-top hate speech happens to be fashionable among the chattering classes at the moment—why, then, dear reader, you’re hearing a phenomenon as omnipresent and unmentionable in today’s America as sex was in Victorian England. You’re hearing the voice of class bigotry: the hate that dare not speak its name.  -- John Michael Greer
    • tomsmom (163 posts)
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      4. Even the mainstream media

      Who does all this crap, know far less than we do. It would be very interesting to know who all of these media employees who have been forced into this nightmare coronation will be voting. I heard one ranting, as much as he dared, last week. It’s been quite a production, and I’ll bet they are just as sick of it as we are. Well, not quite…… the Dems have no idea how much damage they have done to themselves. Lots of those leaked email talk about how they are going to get the Bernie people to shill for the queen, not happening.

    • GZeusH (1056 posts)
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      5. Leave it to you

      to drop a Schumer in the punchbowl.   I think Bernie will still command some attention after the election.

      Policy:  The mistaken notion that bossy people have that they can influence other people's behavior through majority rule.
      • TM99 (4694 posts)
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        6. I am a bubble burster, what can I say.

        I doubt it.  He had the audacity to run against her.  The New Dems will not give an ‘old socialist’ any meaningful power in DC after that.

        When you hear people raising reasoned objections to Trump’s policies and appointments, odds are that you’re listening to the sort of thoughtful dissent that’s essential to any semblance of democracy, and it may be worth taking seriously. When you hear people criticizing Trump and his appointees for doing the same thing his rivals would have done, or his predecessors did, odds are that you’re getting the normal hypocrisy of partisan politics, and you can roll your eyes and stroll on. But when you hear people shrieking that Donald Trump is the illegitimate result of a one-night stand between Ming the Merciless and Cruella de Vil, that he cackles in Russian while barbecuing babies on a bonfire, that everyone who voted for him must be a card-carrying Nazi who hates the human race, or whatever other bit of over-the-top hate speech happens to be fashionable among the chattering classes at the moment—why, then, dear reader, you’re hearing a phenomenon as omnipresent and unmentionable in today’s America as sex was in Victorian England. You’re hearing the voice of class bigotry: the hate that dare not speak its name.  -- John Michael Greer
    • JimLane (905 posts)
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      7. I repeat my offer to you to bet on that

      Yes, others have seniority, but they can’t chair two major committees.  For example, Bernie and Patty Murray are both on Budget and are both on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP).  Murray has seniority.  In this Congress, she chose the top Democratic spot on HELP, which is why Bernie, though junior to her, has the top Democratic spot on Budget.

      If the Democrats take the majority, Murray gets to choose which of those committees she wants to chair.  Bernie gets the other.  People are predicting Bernie for Budget because Murray, a former teacher, is likely to choose HELP in the next Congress, as she did in this one.  If she surprises people and chooses Budget, however, then Bernie will chair HELP, which he’d rather have.

      There are complications I haven’t gone into.  For example,  Murray might wind up chairing Appropriations, which would let Bernie choose between HELP and Budget.

      This is why Schumer didn’t promise Budget for Bernie, but instead said only that Bernie will chair some significant committee if the Democrats are organizing the Senate.

      Edit to repeat the specifics of the bet (open to any JPR member, not just TM99):

      Bernie currently serves on five committees: Committee on the Budget (Ranking Member); Committee on Environment and Public Works; Committee on Energy and Natural Resources; Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions; and Committee on Veterans’ Affairs (former Chair).  No offense to our veterans, but I’d say that the first four would generally be considered more significant.  If the Democrats have a Senate majority and Bernie is still in the Senate (he’s unlikely to be in the Cabinet), then I say he’ll chair one of those first four committees.

      That’s a nice simple proposition to bet on. Loser donates $50 in honor of the winner to a 501(c)(3) organization of the winner’s choosing. I’m open to a higher or lower amount if you prefer. If the Republicans get to organize the Senate, or if Bernie isn’t a Senator, no action on the bet.

      Anyone interested may post here or PM me.