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    *Claims that* Russia Dossier Grow Out Of Jeb Bush's Super PAC

    No way, if this is true it will be funny as hell. Trump beat up on poor Jeb the whole election…but it seems Jeb had a dead man’s switch installed. Not sure how good the talkingpointsmemo is, but they claim they are referncing the BBC.

    Following the publication of a dossier containing explosive and unverified info on Donald Trump and Russia, BBC News reported Wednesday that it originated in opposition research done by a former British intelligence officer working for a Super PAC supporting none other than Jeb Bush.

    If that sounds like a too-good-to-be-true political plot twist, that’s because maybe it is—a lawyer for the PAC told TPM it “had nothing to do with British Intelligence officers.”

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-trump-russia-dossier-originated-with-jeb-bush-super-pac

     

    The report they cite just says this…

    The opposition research firm that commissioned the report had worked first for an anti-Trump superpac – political action committee – during the Republican primaries.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

    This is definitely getting good, but it may just be that they worked for Jeb on one thing and then moved on to the Dossier for a Dem.

    Mod mom, Octafish, ozoneman and 7 others7wo7rees, Punxsutawney, ThomPaine, djean111, Enthusiast, Downwinder, spud demon like this

    Sorry if I seem to defend my stance a bit harshly, but I was too quiet before the election look at where we got.

     

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  • goodgirl (1852 posts)
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    1. That would be something if true.

    And I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it is.

    Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind.    John F. Kennedy
    • ThomPaine (1841 posts)
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      15. Anyone else smell Karl Machiavelli Rove all over this?

      aka rhett o rick.      If I speak out against either Hillary or Trump, it doesn't mean I favor the other.  That should go without saying.
      • goodgirl (1852 posts)
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        16. Actually I do, everywhere.

        A lot of people are taking a page from his book.  I certainly thought the Clinton campaign did.

        Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind.    John F. Kennedy
      • Badger Badger (78 posts)
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        17. Yes and this is explained in a post with an update in the thread

        http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/breaking-election-news-rico-filing-in-ohio-next-week/

        Badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, Argh! Snake, a snake! Snaaake! A snaaaake, oooh its a snake!
  • id-entity (1535 posts)
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    2. And McCain

    D or R doesn’t matter.

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  • spud demon (564 posts)
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    3. The denial appears true but misleading…

    a lawyer for the PAC told TPM it “had nothing to do with British Intelligence officers.”

    Of course, the intel officer in question had retired and started a private consulting firm, so they weren’t dealing with British Intel per se.

    Cubs, Google+, Weird Al, BMW
    • northernsouthern (415 posts)
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      4. I wanted to post that tweet, but when I realized it wasn't an image…

      Half the times the tweets are screen caps, half the time they are links. But good catch as I did not notice the parsing of his words in a way that could still be true because like you said he does put forth a serious denial.

      Sorry if I seem to defend my stance a bit harshly, but I was too quiet before the election look at where we got.

       
  • Enthusiast (4759 posts)
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    5. At this point in time how would we ever recognize the truth?

    What we know to be true is bad enough.

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church
    • northernsouthern (415 posts)
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      6. Sad but true.

      We need an organization that has one purpose, to find the truth…perhaps like this one…

       

       

      Okay maybe he is a bit extreme, but perhaps an AI like HAL, but less crazy.

      Sorry if I seem to defend my stance a bit harshly, but I was too quiet before the election look at where we got.

       
      • Enthusiast (4759 posts)
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        7. Plus One!

        "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church
      • ThinkingANew (823 posts)
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        11. A commissions made of a broad board of citizens and University professionals

        would be the closest I think we could get to something that may be helpful.

        • northernsouthern (415 posts)
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          13. Agreed.

          They would have to have a guaranteed freedom of some sort to do research. A UN for the truth.

          Sorry if I seem to defend my stance a bit harshly, but I was too quiet before the election look at where we got.

           
  • kelly (369 posts)
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    8. where do you think the pussy grabbing surprise came from?

    these crooked spooks have been remarkably ineffective this election

  • ThomPaine (1841 posts)
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    9. I love CT more than most but this is getting ridiculous. Why have blackmail

    material and not use it BEFORE the election?

    I suspected this to happen before Trump got elected.  When it didn’t, I assumed the PTB were ok with Trump.

    I think there are two groups of Powers That Be, fighting it out but we don’t know the players.

    aka rhett o rick.      If I speak out against either Hillary or Trump, it doesn't mean I favor the other.  That should go without saying.
    • jwirr (2091 posts)
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      10. Yes, I have given up on knowing what the truth is on this subject. All I know is

      that most of what is coming out in the MSM and the scandal sheets are lies. Sometimes it is just getting scary to be hanging out there all alone with NO ONE we can trust.

    • ThinkingANew (823 posts)
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      12. Because they are feeling more desperate?

      But yes, there is definitely a power struggle occurring. It seems to be around those that want to go to war with Russia and those who don’t and those for whom keeping power/control is tremendously important.

    • northernsouthern (415 posts)
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      14. Did they try for a bit?

      It was getting passed around back then they claim. But it seems they can not verify or disprove it…so perhaps they failed. I still have not heard if anyone else noticed the odd way the WH press sec referenced something about them having the ability to disprove it, and why don’t they (Talking about Trump).

      Sorry if I seem to defend my stance a bit harshly, but I was too quiet before the election look at where we got.