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  • bemildred (1207 posts)
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    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

    Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

    Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
    A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

    The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/ukrainian-efforts-to-sabotage-trump-backfire/

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  • LaaDeeDaaVA (323 posts)
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    1. Massive Biden/Kerry Ukraine connections Politico "missed"-BURSIMA HOLDINGS

    Ukrainian Employer of Joe Biden’s Son Hires a D.C. Lobbyist:  An obscure private Ukrainian natural gas company has been hiring friends and family of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, <em style=”color: #0000ff;”>while seeking to influence Congress,  July 7, 2014

     “. . . But the company, Burisma Holdings, did not disclose at the time the scope of their plans for influencing the U.S. government. Recently released documents show that Biden’s hiring coincided with the launch of a new effort to lobby members of Congress about the role of the company in Ukraine and the country’s quest for energy independence.

    David Leiter, a former Senate chief of staff to Secretary of State John Kerry, signed on to work as a lobbyist for Burisma on May 20, 2014, about a week after Biden announced he was joining the company, according to lobbying disclosures filed this month . . .

    time.com/2964493/ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-burisma/

     

    Vice President Joe Biden’s son joins Ukraine gas company, May 14, 2014, 

    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27403003

     

    US Vice-President Biden’s Son Continues to Buy Gas Assets in Ukraine, February 2, 2016

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-vice-president-bidens-son-continues-to-buy-gas-assets-in-ukraine/5505300

     

     

    • bemildred (1207 posts)
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      2. Yeah, Biden was doing the farewell tour in Ukraine.

      I wonder if they all thanked him for the “help”.

      • VoiceOfReason (354 posts)
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        3. More trump-truthers aboard

        Do you really think that everybody believes TTT [trump-trash-talk]?

        "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire
        • bemildred (1207 posts)
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          4. Only the press from what I can tell.

          • VoiceOfReason (354 posts)
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            5. Not what the popular vote said

            Clinton beat trump by 3 million votes, remember.

            Go ahead and kill the messenger.  What the romans did before their fall.

            "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire
            • bemildred (1207 posts)
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              6. Take that and a couple bucks, you can get a Starbucks.

              We are doing an excellent job of collapsing ourselves, no help needed.

              • VoiceOfReason (354 posts)
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                7. take trump and a few trillion

                and you can buy america.

                "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire
                • bemildred (1207 posts)
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                  9. It's definitely for sale.

                  • VoiceOfReason (354 posts)
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                    10. I agree

                    Fight the lobbyists.  Thanks.

                    "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire
            • Rozinante (1658 posts)
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              8. 306-232.

              Rather stupid of Democrats to nominate the only candidate that could lose to a Cheeto-head, but that’s what elitist arrogance got us. And it will be rinse and repeat until the lesson is beaten in.

              • VoiceOfReason (354 posts)
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                11. I agree

                Both parties do it.  I call it the “your turn” rule.

                The repubs tried it with Jeb bush and failed.

                "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire
                • Rozinante (1658 posts)
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                  12. Not really.

                  While Jeb may have been the GOP establishment’s favorite, he wasn’t shoved down Republican’s throats. There’s no indication the GOP primaries were rigged to benefit him. Only the Democrats preselected a candidate and rigged the primaries to ensure she was the nominee.

                  • VoiceOfReason (354 posts)
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                    13. trump did it differently

                    with fake news, lies, sophistic hype, fear mongering, ridiculing  his opponents with insults that were false.

                    Watching the repub debates was like watching the WWE.

                    His main theme was about spreading hate and dividing the country.

                    Every dog has it’s day and trump will have his when his karma bites him in the ass.

                    He is his own worst enemy

                     

                    "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire
                    • Rozinante (1658 posts)
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                      14. No question he's an asshole.

                      His base eats it up. Trump certainly benefitted from the large field, esp early on. But my point remains that there was no cheating evident in GOP primaries.  Supporters of Cruz, Rubio, etc, may not have liked Trump, but given a choice of he or Clinton were willing to hold their nose and vote for him.  OTOH, the cheating by DNClinton in the primaries angered so many Bernie supporters that a great many simply stayed home in GE.

                    • VoiceOfReason (354 posts)
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                      15. true

                      Imo, trump is a tax cheater and he cheats his workers and contractors.  Cheats on his wives, too.

                      One reason he can’t sell his property is that when you   sell the property you are required by law to pay the labor liens against him.

                      We had two candidates to pick from.  Neither one was the lesser of the two evils.  They are both equally evil.

                      The only honest one was bernie in the dog and pony show.

                      "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire