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  • yes-Im-a-wizard (358 posts)
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    Wait, don't we act to affect election outcomes….everywhere?

    Higher education’s now a Casino.

    Charging exorbitant fees for information that is available for free on the internet.

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  • Silver Witch (3622 posts)
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    1. Hey Wizard – you nailed it.

    You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free. ~ Clarence Darrow
  • zoolook67 (523 posts)
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    2. "Why, yes we do and have forever, but

    that doesn’t mean we can’t be hypocrites.”

    Living well is the best revenge.
  • oldandhappy (2847 posts)
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    3. Yes we do!

    We have messed in the governments of lots of countries and deposed leaders — look at Iran!  I am going to relocate to Central America and am running in to this there.  We are a know it all country and think we can do whatever we decide to do to others.  Bully?  We have earned whatever we got.

    • LuckyDog (640 posts)
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      5. Honduras and Venezuela come immediately to mind. Of course Iran too

      Our CIA’s mission is election tampering, de-stabilization, disinformation, and assassination.

      Supposedly only on foreign soil.

      • LiberalElite (3674 posts)
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        7. Also Chile & Allende 1973 nt

        I feel much better since I've given up hope
        • LuckyDog (640 posts)
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          8. Yes, how could I forget Chile

          And the assassination of Orlando Letelier, an official in Allende’s govt., in Washington D.C. On Sheridan Circle in 1975.

          there is a great book written by Steven Propper, “Labyrinth,” who investigated this murder case and uncovered all kinds of collusion by the US.  He recounts how he was stonewalled by US officials and clearly delineates how this was accomplished by our CIA and Henry the K helping out the Chilean Secret Police under the thumb of General Pinochet.  Great book.

           

          • LiberalElite (3674 posts)
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            9. i'll look for that book. Allende was the beginning of my waking up… that and

            Kent State.

            I feel much better since I've given up hope
  • FanBoy (6289 posts)
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    4. since when is the internet "free"?

    and since when can you sift out good information from bad without some background?

    like, can the internet teach me how to be a doctor?

    sounds like more “defund the universities” crap

    same right wing crap, new spin

    if higher ed is a casino, it’s because tpb want it that way

    the same forces that want you to to get pseudo-information from the internet they own like they owned the papers and the tv stations

    advantage of the internet = no hard copy, more orwellian

     

    • yes-Im-a-wizard (358 posts)
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      6. Lets answer your fun reply post by post

      since when is the internet “free”?

      at least since Starbucks opened.

      and since when can you sift out good information from bad without some background?

      after about 25 or 26 when I shook off all that bullshit my boomer parents and the public schools tried to shove down my maw. Discernment, it’s a thing now!

      like, can the internet teach me how to be a doctor?

      why yes!!  Depends on how autodidactic you are (or aren’t) but like any super skilled trade, there is a difference between knowing a thing and understanding a thing. ask any pilot ;)

      sounds like more “defund the universities” crap

      well, in fact a degree is now defacto worthless. so ubiquitous they have lost their value, and lets be honest, they don’t predict future success either in a specific role or in life generally. The 60’s, 70’s. 80’s are gone gone gone. 

      same right wing crap, new spin

      Why reverts so quickly to ad hom’s? Oh…..right I forgot.

      if higher ed is a casino, it’s because tpb want it that way

      Nope. the same human adult-babies that we see in college infect the military as well. I imagine that they just want things back to normal. 

      the same forces that want you to to get pseudo-information from the internet they own like they owned the papers and the tv stations

      The internet has flatlined information and killed the Democrats, Republicans, and the media. 

      advantage of the internet = no hard copy, more orwellian

      Robots are coming, and natural selection doesn’t give a fuck whats better, just whats most adaptable. 

       

      So whats your plan to survive because you may need some new ideas. 

       

      • FanBoy (6289 posts)
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        11. and i'll answer yours though it's not fun

        “at least since Starbucks opened”

        -since when is *starbucks* free?

         

        “after about 25 or 26 when I shook off all that bullshit my boomer parents and the public schools tried to shove down my maw. Discernment, it’s a thing now!”

        “without some background” = whatever education the state and your boomer parents provided you, the books/media/life experiences they provided, etc.  but perhaps you are like venus…

         

        “why yes!!  Depends on how autodidactic you are (or aren’t) but like any super skilled trade, there is a difference between knowing a thing and understanding a thing. ask any pilot”

        get back to me once you do it.

         

        “well, in fact a degree is now defacto worthless. so ubiquitous they have lost their value, and lets be honest, they don’t predict future success either in a specific role or in life generally. The 60’s, 70’s. 80’s are gone gone gone.”

        a factoid gleaned from the internet no doubt.

         

        same right wing crap, new spin
        “Why reverts so quickly to ad hom’s? Oh…..right I forgot.”

        no ad hom there, but maybe you learned the definition from the internet and didn’t quite get it right

         

        if higher ed is a casino, it’s because tpb want it that way
        “Nope. the same human adult-babies that we see in college infect the military as well. I imagine that they just want things back to normal.”

        “human adult-babies” are now in charge of  funding and direction of resources for higher ed — I hadn’t heard.  I thought it was the state and their funders (i.e. the rich)

         

        “The internet has flatlined information and killed the Democrats, Republicans, and the media.”

        Sure, that’s why they’re all wandering around in rags with their begging cups

         

        advantage of the internet = no hard copy, more orwellian
        “Robots are coming, and natural selection doesn’t give a fuck whats better, just whats most adaptable.”

        Nothing “natural” about it.  (And hint — you ain’t gonna be “selected” except maybe as a kapo)

         

        So whats your plan to survive because you may need some new ideas.

        We’ll see bright boy

        • northernsouthern (927 posts)
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          12. I agree with you.

          The idea that the internet is good for education when it is used to simply confirm personal bias half the time and other times used to push agendas, or to give platforms to those who lack the actual knowledge to teach in places that take teaching seriously (not saying all schools are great). Saying Starbucks is the internet solution is so funny, as many places don’t have Starbucks in areas that are poor, and I am sure Starbucks would not be able to handle the influx of such a large scale non-paying clientele just to “educate” themselves. That is like giving someone the keys to the library and saying ok now build be a spaceship…but in this case the library just has random articles that are never peer reviewed or check. The idea that a person could be a doctor is even more laughable, I know several people that are going to med school or graduated…they have to do residences, clinicals, etc, they have the whole cadaver thing…try to practice operating on one and not be in med school.

          The only good of internet education is that perhaps the free education will destroy the need for pay online colleges and will result in either a choice of a free online degree or a real degree from a school. Whenever I go back to add to my certs, the online element is the worst part of the education.

          I love everything, this is my signature line by choice it is not censored in any way.

          • FanBoy (6289 posts)
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            13. thanks for the support. and i hear you about online too. but the

            new riche are all for it cause they plan to make money off it.

            thus the enthusiasm for things like khan academy.  which is fine until it gets billed as a substitute for schooling —

            • northernsouthern (927 posts)
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              16. Universities may be the saviours

              Well some may as the idea of online will cut in to their budget (the legit real ones), so by creating the online ones that some are currently making, they can destroy the competition. Online schools could be outsourced to other countries so quickly as well, so the profit for online schools could be nothing due to competition. I have yet to enjoy any online class, and the best ones use streaming or other methods which make it difficult for people with poor connections or lesser tech. I am really tempted to start a petition for our next election that bans online classes replacing normal classes. They should just allow students to take the regular class online, not punish those of us who want a normal class by forcing us all to take online.

              I love everything, this is my signature line by choice it is not censored in any way.

        • Doremus Jessup (1981 posts)
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          14. Well played!

          Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. End ALL occupations and bring the troops home.
          • FanBoy (6289 posts)
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            15. thank you for the support, seriously.

  • Scuba (2336 posts)
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    18. yeah, but when we do it, it's to be celebrated …

  • Wet Blanket (160 posts)
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    19. Shrillary shouldn't have interfered in Putin's election campaign in 2011

    Link:  http://time.com/4422723/putin-russia-hillary-clinton/

    The MSM is not our friend.  Always wonder what agenda a news story is trying to push.
  • Hobbit709 (1543 posts)
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    20. When we do it it's because of high-minded principles

    If anyone else does it it’s because they are evil, wicked, mean, and nasty.

    I won't shut up and I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing
  • Tierra y Libertad (1148 posts)
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    21. Yep, we do. Unfortunately, not to the desired effect.

    We were unable to prevent Trump from attaining office.  Who is equally or more unfit to hold public office than Hillary.

     

    But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants is the liberty of appearing. Thomas Paine