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  • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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    I have to leave now for some time

    I may not be back for weeks, months or never. It is hard to say, but in the meantime, David has everything under control.

    Practice random acts of kindness and treat each other as the brothers and sisters we all actually are.

    Peace

    D

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    “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

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    • Haikugal (4140 posts)
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      1. Is there something we could help with? I really hate to see you go.

      • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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        9. Nothing will help, I lack the income for sustained internet connection

        I have been using with permission the wifi of an old friend and next door neighbor, thatb had to leave for a while and when it is shut off (I assume at the end of the billing cycle) It will be lost to me for some time (as yet undetermined, perhaps even permanently), to be honest, I was surprised it was still active when I returned home today.

        But thank you for your concern.

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

    • no retreat no surrender (972 posts)
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      2. What?

      I hope everything is OK and that you can join us again. Your voice is definitely needed here.

      It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in the minds of men - Samuel Adams
      It's the height of privilege to win a primary rigged by your elite cronies, then act entitled to the votes of people you cheated - Jill Stein
       
      • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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        8. I thank you for wishing me well, but my voice is not needed

        In fact it is largely ignored as can be proven by every op I have written in this group, and this is the group interested in much of what I write about.

        Besides, the decision to post will very shortly not rest with me as my borrowed internet is soon to be lost for an indeterminate time and I lack the means to provide my own.

        I did not wish to be rude with my Original Posting, but I had been passing out upon occasion and had little time but that which was needed to see my pulmonologist among other specialists that are in charge of my care and then there was the inevitable hospital “observation” time, that my pulmonologist extended purposefully so I could rest well and get my Ox sats up to above 90, when I left I had it up to 97, the best I’ve seen in some time.

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

        • no retreat no surrender (972 posts)
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          21. I love your posts

          I read them all the time on DU. This is a new site so people probably haven’t seen them because we’re still trying to navigate on here. Maybe you can post using wifi from the library or a coffee shop?

          I’m very sorry to hear about your health issues. I certainly wish you well and hope we continue to see you here. Now that the convention is over for all practical purposes we will need more original ops than ever. :)

          It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in the minds of men - Samuel Adams
          It's the height of privilege to win a primary rigged by your elite cronies, then act entitled to the votes of people you cheated - Jill Stein
           
    • davidthegnome (776 posts)
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      3. Hang in there…

      Your kindness and your wisdom have meant a lot to all of us here.  Whatever you are going through now, my brother… keep on going and come back to us.  My thoughts are with you, and my heart is with you.  I will be here to listen if you ever need to speak.

      • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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        7. Had to be in the Hospital for a while, but my further absence goes beyond that

        The only reason I have a connection to the internet is a close friend and neighbor that lives next store shares her wifi with me.

        She even worked with me to make sure her wireless router/gateway was close enough positionally for me to get a good 4 bar signal. Unfortunately a family tragedy has befallen her, her only sibling, a sister just lost her spouse to a heart attack.

        She is not well off (I live in a poor neighborhood) and she in order to save money while she goes to stay with her sister in her words “maybe a couple of weeks, a couple of months, or forever’ she changed her debit card info on her internet account to one that will not pay anything not in balance (no overdraft fees, very smart way to go), manually turned off her hot water tank and gas (they make you pay to do it turn on or off) and turned off all her breakers except for the one that runs her router for my benefit to use it until the end of the billing cycle and they shut her off. She is clever, she will likely use the time to call it a billing mistake and end up renegotiating it into a better deal to keep her as a customer and get it turned on again.

        I understand her need to be with her sister, I understand she can in no way predict how long she will be needed or if it will be permanent. I understand her need to reduce her bills as much as possible in her absence.

        I was actually surprised the connection was still running when I got back from my hospital “vacation”, but it is only temporary and I do not know when I will lose the connection. I have keys to her apt. if the modem needs a reboot and to look after the place as needed, including shutting down her main breaker once the internet is shut off.

        If she does not come back, I will have a new neighbor or a vacant house next door, but no means to reach the internet. I find it a bit amusing how no one even considered that someone with no income may not be able to afford internet access, so few even get it, this group may open some eyes, but only a few understand the harsh reality. My internet access may be gone any minute, I also may become homeless at any time my landlord loses patience with the partial payment received via voucher. (being elderly and not well of either).

        I have stopped taking all my meds and decided to reduce my Oxygen intake drastically, basically from the prescribed “as needed, always while sleeping” to only during sleep.

        I want to see if nature takes me before the Disability insurance apparatus set up to “deny and delay until one gives up or dies” wins first. I have an acquaintance to check every week to make sure that if they win, my dog will survive. beyond that, I am laying odds and placing bets on my fate. I decided the odds against survival were two to one, I am betting on myself but in this game I only have to pay myself if I win.

        The value I’ve placed on my life was the value they placed on it $315 and that is my bet (the amount I receive in total assistance per month not counting food stamps to cover all utilities and rent, they apportion it by voucher to my landlord and the electric company and neither receives the full amount owed. It has been years since I had the luxury of natural gas, makes for some really fucked winter nights in Buffalo.

        Good thing I learned to be strong enough to survive homeless in this northern environ in youth or I would be freaked out by what I merely adapt to now.

        The one thing the forgotten must do David, grow strong enough to survive anything! It is not easy, but it is the only way to live and survive the apathy of a culture that unless they are among us, only support us intellectually and ignore the reality of the fact that some do not grow strong and do die, not only that, but that only describes those on the left that are empathetic, the rest want us dead. It happens every day in every city and how many even realize it?

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

        • davidthegnome (776 posts)
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          14. Strong enough to survive anything…

          You know… it’s sad that this is the motto that so many of us must live by.  With all my frequent talk about empathy and compassion – I do understand that we are living in a society that has largely lost it’s soul.  It is much like with mental health and what they call managed care.  The symptoms are treated, managed, to some extent, with medication, different forms of therapy and so on – but the necessity of an actual cure remains beyond our grasp.  There is money to be made in medicine, in therapy, in keeping things as they are.  I suspect that, of all the reasons many great illnesses have never been cured – that is chief among them.  There is money in everything from the common cold to cancer.  The same applies to mental health, with the added stigma of being despised for suspected character flaws and/or weakness.

          We must somehow grow beyond this, as a society, as a Nation, as human beings.  Profit cannot be allowed to remain God.  Capitalism cannot be permitted to continue to run rampant over our lives.  Those like you and I and so many others… cannot continue to be forgotten.  The dark night of the soul… with poverty, with disability, with chronic illness and pain, it is not merely one night, but a continued existence while we struggle to keep our heads above water.  Every day and every night, especially for those who are alone, the knowledge that our struggles are quiet, unheard – and often ignored by those who should be paying the most attention.

          I watched the democratic convention last night – the speeches, anyway.  One thing I noticed was that, as it has always been, the appeal was to the middle class.  I have nothing at all against the middle class – and it is only thanks to my working middle class parents that I am able to survive.  Until my teens, I had known most of the privileges of being an average middle class white boy.  What many, I think, do not realize, is that it does not take much, to fall down.  To go from being middle class, to working poor – or just plain poor, as I often call it.  I tried to fight that battle on my own – and I lost.  Without the support of my family I would simply not be here.

          If more understood the struggle, the reality of poverty, disability, chronic physical or mental illness and so on… we would not live in such a society.  Great, wise and compassionate people like you would not have to tread fire alone, you would not have to fear that your greatest social outlet would be lost to you, that your oxygen would be gone altogether.  You would not have had to stop buying your medications.  The process of applying for disability would not have left you, for so damned long, without help, without resources.

          It goes beyond anger, beyond sadness, beyond rage or heartbreak.  Simply the knowledge that, if we all cared, if we all came together… we could solve poverty in America tomorrow.  If the richest among us simply paid their share.  We could have a disability program that worked and really lifted people out of poverty and despair, if only we weren’t so busy building military planes that we will never use – that will never work.  If we stopped giving tax breaks (and tax relief) to the wealthy, stopped worshiping job creators for creating jobs – and instead praise them only when they create good paying jobs that enable people to live.  If….

          The world I dream of is not the world of reality.  None of what is happening in regards to poverty and disability should be happening.  So much of what is going on in this struggle cannot continue to be ignored.  We exist.  We are here.  Even if all we can do is talk about it on message boards – at least someone will read and know that we were here.  That we did these things.  That we struggled against these odds and survived, for a time.

          A solution will one day come.  It may come too late for you and I, but I have to believe that our shared suffering means something – that it has the ability to inspire empathy, compassion, courage and heroism.  You are a hero, my Brother, to struggle as you do and keep the faith.  There are no words of praise high enough that I might give to you to praise your strength, honor, courage – and love for your fellow human beings in spite of your suffering.  What I can give are my love and respect, you will absolutely always have that.

        • sabrina (5844 posts)
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          16. Dragonfli, your ops are among the best here. I didn't know things

          were this bad. We don’t want to lose your wonderful writing on this forum. I am sure that we can help to keep you online if we have a way to do so.

          I see another  thread, just joined this group so I could respond. Hang on, don’t get out of touch until we find a way to keep you around, yeah, selfish I know, but aren’t we all a little selfish in the end?

          I would miss you a lot.

          • GivingItToYouStraight (741 posts)
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            17. +1 to EVERYTHING you said.

          • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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            18. Several months ago while working on a seperate project with Manny

            He (an extremely kind person regardless of his known association with that criminal nar do well Third Way) made several attempts to offer help, I either ignored or refused them all. I have my reasons, among them being my financial and physical problems are systemic and chronic, no temporary help will help. Knowing this to be true, I would rather face things as they are.

            Temporary solutions are not able to help but temporarily – and I prefer help is given to those that help would supply a solution to, rather than a mere extension of a decaying system.

            If Gloria comes back and takes residence again and shares her wifi, or My SS disability insurance (well contributed to by me for years), comes through, then my systemic financial problems regarding online availability will be solved.

            I would respectfully request no further offers be made.

            “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

            • Zopilote (277 posts)
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              22. Powerful words

              “Temporary solutions are not able to help but temporarily – and I prefer help is given to those that help would supply a solution to, rather than a mere extension of a decaying system.”

              The journey of a thousand miles begins with me trying to remember where I left my damn keys...  
            • HawkeyeX (627 posts)
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              24. I respect your decision…

              I assume you have jumped all the hoops for your SSDI (they do owe you since you filed your claim) and have obtained an lawyer specializing this stuff on a contingency basis (they do this kind of stuff for a living, I know a very good one in Denver).

              All I can say is best of luck, and please don’t be a stranger. I’ve always loved and respected you and your writings for years.

               

    • Enthusiast (5352 posts)
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      4. Sorry to hear this, Dragonfli.

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church
      • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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        10. Perhaps it is what is meant to be, I had been feeling ppl were not getting me

        anyway, remain enthusiastic, for such a positive attitude is infectious and needed far more than the scribblings of a madman. ;-)

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

        • Enthusiast (5352 posts)
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          13. I value your contributions, Dragonfli.

          I would like to see you hang around. Unless it would be too painful.

          There will always be those that don’t get us. I think it’s comes down to chemistry. They get a certain vibe from us and we get a certain vibe from them. It could be based on the smallest of subtle things.

          :hug:

          "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church
        • melurkyoulongtime (99 posts)
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          25. Not true Dragonfli

          I get you and have read you since I found you on DU.  I don’t post much but I sincerely appreciate your efforts. I’m just sorry I’m in no way able to help people like ourselves right now.  It makes me so damn angry this is happening when there really there is no reason it should be except for the unmitigated greed that runs this country.  Sigh, if I were in charge things would be so different…  Saw you are back on a more recent post and am very, very glad to see you!  Rave on brother, rave on!

          Edit: fixed typo.

          Rage, RAGE against the dying of the light!  Do not go gently into that good night!

    • CountAllBernieVotes (69 posts)
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      5. Take care Dragonfli!

      Hope to see you back again soon!  Take good care!

       

       

      • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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        11. I always take care, I learned to survive very young, but thank you. /nt

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

    • Zopilote (277 posts)
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      6. You mentioned leaving earlier

      and I thank you for setting up this group.  You’re right.  David is more than capable of overseeing it.

      I hope you’re okay and that all goes well, and I hope you bring your powerful voice back here soon.

      I hate to see you go, but I wish you all the best wherever you are.

       

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      • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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        12. On that I wholeheartedly agree. David will work out perfectly /nt

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

    • davidthegnome (776 posts)
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      15. Is there any assistance available in your state?

      In Maine, there is some kind of program that offers free internet.  There are also prescription assistance programs – and there might be local hospitals that have free-care programs.  I’m just wondering if there’s anything you can apply for or anyone you can talk to who can help you get by for now.  Also, I sent you a PM with a couple ideas…

      Don’t give up my brother.  I will help you in any way that I can.  Your voice is needed, YOU are needed.  We can’t throw in the towel, we have to keep fighting for ourselves and for all of those who have been forgotten.

      • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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        20. I have availed myself of all available programs

        The problem is largely that when welfare was gutted by Clinton it became a shell of a program designed to starve you out, and is only temporary. I receive continued benefits from them anyway (including medical and prescription) past the normal lockout because I am disabled, it is a known known even to social services and I surmise likely to the SS administration as well. Unfortunately what is well known to social services (learned after some candid discussions with social services caseworkers during my bi-yearly re-certification where I have to be interviewed and fill out redundant paperwork) is that the SS administrations main purpose of late (for how long I can not say) has been to starve out or wait out applicants by extending the process to absurd levels. I have a lawyer, but to give you an example of how they achieve their goals, I am currently waiting for an appeal from a judge regarding receiving a new hearing. The wait time just for the response to this ONE request, is said to be between 12 to 18 months, it has already been over a year and a half since submission of said request, after which, the best I can hope for is a, “yes you may have a new hearing of your disability case” the waiting time on that can be anywhere from 3 months to one year, lather, rinse repeat. Possibly even start a new claim and begin the process over again at their whim.

        Social Services provides Medicaid, no co-pays but because of starve the beast cuts reimbursement levels are so low few accept it, I have access to medication , I simply refuse to keep taking so much of it because I just plain don’t give a shit anymore, next hearing, I may be granted my earned benefits if I am nearly expired, or so goes my theory.

        Besides EBT (hard to stretch unless as most do, one eats unhealthy food), the total amount allotted for cash benefits (which varies depending upon the number in the household and I believe the county one lives in), but my amount is a small bit above $325 a month to cover, all non food essentials, rent, gas, electricity, soap toilet paper, cloths, etc.), which can be placed on the card but are strategically better used via voucher payments and are designed to be nowhere near large enough of a stipend to even cover rent let alone utilities, (being a welfare king is not quite as advertised). My landlord and I go back 30 years and he is being patient with the partial rent vouchers received, but I don’t know how long HE can afford to do so.. I had to give up natural gas altogether (no room in that sort of budget for that), and the electric company would have shut me off some time ago if they could, because I am behind as their vouchers as well are inadequate, but they can’t because I require oxygen which is produced by an electrically run oxygen concentrator and there is some (likely soon to be revoked) rule that disallows them to shut off the power in such a case.

        I hope that was informative.

        “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

        • Zopilote (277 posts)
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          23. That was informative

          and depressing as hell.  God this is fucked up.

          The journey of a thousand miles begins with me trying to remember where I left my damn keys...  
          • melurkyoulongtime (99 posts)
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            26. Dear God +infinity nt

            Rage, RAGE against the dying of the light!  Do not go gently into that good night!

        • glinda (1408 posts)
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          27. oh man….

          Animals know more than we do. - Native American proverb
    • GivingItToYouStraight (741 posts)
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      19. Please hang on. I have sought out your posts for years

      and would miss your voice so much.  Your dragonfli avatar always catches me in my scans of posts and I slow down to read yours.  Collectively, we are strong, strong enough for you, so let us first see if we can put something together here at JPR…

    • grasswire (233 posts)
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      28. Just saw this.

      Very sad.

      Someone here on DU has a used computer that needs a home.  David, I wish you could help this guy out. I remember that you said your keyboard was shot.  Don’t think of it as someone helping you, if that’s a problem. Think of it as you helping this guy get rid of a used computer, and helping the rest of us stay real and focused through your writing about things that matter.

      I would bet that many would be happy to invest in your internet connection, too. Won’t you let us?

       

    • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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      29. To those that know me (within this group that would likely include most)

      I am back, I have resolved my internet issues as I had hoped they would be resolved, by patience. Among other things I am a Taoist and doing by not doing is considered a viable and even preferable action even though it requires no action at all, in this case it worked as expected.

      Gloria, my WiFi sharing neighbor has taken residence again as of Thursday and called me with a new password today as the account became active again sometime yesterday. She is still caring for her sister, but her sister has decided to sell her late husband’s house and take up residence next door, she is truly grieving, I met her earlier and knowing much of her feelings (being a widower) I could only share her grief with her and offer kindness and understanding. I had no magic words to offer as such do not exist, after ten years I still grieve my wife, one merely gets used to the loss in my experience, as the loss itself never appears to go away, nor the sadness at losing one’s most cherished love and friend, at least she has a sibling to help her not be alone in her despair, I had no such support system, although I am not sure how much it helps, it must do some good or she would not have made the decision to leave a better neighborhood to be with her sister in a poor one. I can only assume she is trying to escape the memories of a life shared in a house with one she loved

      I had the opposite response and still cherish my wife’s original artwork on the walls we shared our time among and feel closer to her here (although I will admit I gave up the bed we shared and have slept on the couch since her passing) our bedroom is now used for storage.

      In any event, all that aside, I have been without news since last I left, no TV and the single newspaper in Buffalo is full of nothing but propaganda and would not use as a cage liner let alone spend money I do not have to purchase and read one.

      I hope some good things have happened in my absence, but I have so much to catch up on, I think I will start by watching all the missed episodes of Lee Camp’s Redacted Tonight and Chris Hedges show on RT. I stopped listening to Tom Hartman after he became delusionally convinced that Hillary was actually pushed lefty instead of merely feinting left. If he has given up that delusion please inform me and I will watch him again.

      “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall    

      • Zopilote (277 posts)
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        30. It is good to see you back.

        I hope you are well.

        The journey of a thousand miles begins with me trying to remember where I left my damn keys...  
        • Dragonfli (674 posts)
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          31. Thank you, it is good to be back, but I have a great deal of

          catching up to do.

          I am as well as is expected, IOW about the same as usual.

          “We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.” Thurgood Marshall