2020 Is Tumbling Toward 1917

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    • #370191
      Passionate Progressive
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      2020 is Tumbling Toward 1917

      We think we’re safe from revolution. We’re wrong—it’s already in the works.

      When the Russian Revolution toppled the czar and put the Bolsheviks into power, the civilized countries of western Europe had good reason to tell themselves it could never happen to them. Russia was a barbaric country with a lopsided social structure, masses of peasants and no middle class to speak of. Their political system was a relic of the past, a time when street revolutions still happened. The rest of Europe was more modern, with constitutions and parliaments and labor unions. Any political conflict could work itself out through those proper channels.


      The Sixties left Americans feeling equally sure that a revolution could never happen here. An entire generation went into open rebellion, urban unrest exploded, tanks rolled through the streets of Los Angeles and Detroit, periodic bombings made many worry that the counterculture’s Lenin might be out there waiting for his moment—and yet we survived the nightmare unscathed. Americans concluded that our prosperity, or the flexibility of our political system, or maybe just the forward march of civilization, had transformed street rebellion from a genuine threat into a safe pastime for earnest young idealists.

      But are we really so safe? In June, the great Russian literature professor Gary Saul Morson told The Wall Street Journal that America was starting to feel eerily familiar. “It’s astonishingly like late 19th-, early 20th-century Russia, when basically the entire educated class felt you simply had to be against the regime or some sort of revolutionary,” he said. Even the moderate Kadet Party could not bring itself to condemn terrorism against the czar, any more than a modern Democrat could condemn Black Lives Matter: “A famous line from one of the liberal leaders put it this way: ‘Condemn terrorism? That would be the moral death of the party.’” 

      Today, the Resistance is already signaling that they won’t accept a Trump victory in November any more than they accepted one in 2016. After the last election, they attempted a soft coup by means of the Russiagate scandal and impeachment. What kind of coup will come next? By looking at the Russian precedent, we can evaluate the risk that this country might enact our own distinctively American version of 1917—and how close we have come to it already. 

      The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

    • #370196
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      Equating Terrorism to BLM? Fuck that shit

    • #370201
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      pro-corporate neoliberals … everyone with a vested stake in making sure that even if Donald Trump wins, they will respect that development.

      To do otherwise would be to undermine the very foundation on which they’ve built their fortunes and power.

      So no, this is total nonsense, sorry.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #370205
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      The idiocy is in thinking that they can control it when it happens. We’ll all love the look on their faces when the parade they think they’re leading stops at a guillotine.

    • #370206
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      ..but it won’t happen in the next few years.After all,as the clock turns back we are only at 1918 now,pandemic and all.

      The reason we’re headed down that path is the massive income inequality and the complete cluelessness of the pampered elite,most of which likes to fancy themselves some sort of resistance.

      Nobles and upper bourgeoisie with no clue how the other half lives,and not really wanting to know,so long as they have their amusements.

      It will probably take another ten to fifty years for the elite to really get scared.By then it will be too late for them.

    • #370215
      HalfCentury Man
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      We have been sharpening our claws on each other. We have been hardened by our mere existence. The longer it take to happen the greater the, lets call it, flex will be.

      Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

      John F. Kennedy: 13 March 1962.

    • #370223
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      Reading conservative opinion pieces make my eyes glaze over.

    • #370261
      Passionate Progressive
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      and 21st century terrorism are mutually exclusive……..I am reading the article as referring to the 20th century radical but violent political movement in Russia.


      The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

    • #370293
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      Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss.  

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

    • #370295
      Ohio Barbarian
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      This article doesn’t mention class once.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #370312
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      Another reason that this is bullshit is that it doesn’t mention hunger.   The peasants revolt when they are being starved.   In some ways, America is the land of the obese who consume too much, but that is cheap non-nutritious food, and any hike in the food prices along with a lapse in unemployment and/or stimulus payments will mean that people can’t even afford to feed themselves the empty calories sold at the dollar store.

      Once a few million people get evicted and can’t afford to buy food, then we will be seeing 1917 levels of discontent.

    • #370427
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      Like @mizzgrizz mentions we’re more like 1918 with the comparisons to the Spanish Flu and a depression on the way, while @ohiobarbarian rightly mentions that this article does not mention class at all.

      That article cites many of the events without context since it fails to mention the reasons for such a revolution to begin with.

      Beau of the Fifth Column rightly mentions that “there is no country in this planet that is more than 3 missed meals away from revolution”.

      That is happening more and more in this country.

      In many ways, I think that is part of the reason for the increased militarization of the police. That only goes too far.

      We’re not there yet, but be it Biden or Trump, we’re getting even closer to such a thing.

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