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  • Marym625 (29835 posts)
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    48th anniversary of the US sanctioned murder of four students at Kent State Univ

    This a repost of mine from 3 years ago with one edit

    48th anniversary of the US sanctioned murder of four students at Kent State University

    On the weekend of May 4, 1970, students across the country were protesting the US involvement in the Vietnam War and our “secret” expansion into Cambodia and Laos.

    At Kent State, the National Guard was called in. While tension mounted on May 3rd, the students remained resolute in their purpose.

    After 45 years, the families of the victims and the 9 victims who survived (the families of those who have since died) are still waiting for justice.

    The “kill order” has been discovered on a tape. The tape has been verified as authentic by independent sources as well as the FBI. However, the DoD and the DoJ refuse to reopen the case. The UN has even called on the US to reopen the investigation, without a response.
    Order to shoot:

    http://www.may4.org/ohionationalguardordertofire.html

    In memory of:

    Killed on May 4, 1970 by the National Guard

    Jeffrey Glenn Miller; age 20; 265 ft (81 m) shot through the mouth; killed instantly

    Allison B. Krause; age 19; 343 ft (105 m) fatal left chest wound; died later that day

    William Knox Schroeder; age 19; 382 ft (116 m) shot in the back; fatal chest wound; died almost an hour later in a hospital while undergoing surgery

    Sandra Lee Scheuer; age 20; 390 ft (120 m) fatal neck wound; died a few minutes later from loss of blood

    Students wounded:

    Joseph Lewis Jr.; 71 ft (22 m); hit twice in the right abdomen and left lower leg

    John R. Cleary; 110 ft (34 m); upper left chest wound

    Thomas Mark Grace; 225 ft (69 m); struck in left ankle

    Alan Michael Canfora 225 ft (69 m); hit in his right wrist

    Dean R. Kahler; 300 ft (91 m); back wound fracturing the vertebrae, permanently paralyzed from the chest down

    Douglas Alan Wrentmore; 329 ft (100 m); hit in his right knee

    James Dennis Russell; 375 ft (114 m); hit in his right thigh from a bullet and in the right forehead by birdshot, both wounds minor (since has passed away)

    Robert Follis Stamps; 495 ft (151 m); hit in his right buttock (since has passed away)

    Donald Scott MacKenzie; 750 ft (230 m); neck wound

    Ohio – Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young

    Look familiar? Who’s next?

    A great source of information, The May4 Organization run by Alan Canfora and the other surviving victims, still fighting for justice

    http://www.may4.org/

    Peace

    For Alan Canfora

    Pastiche, Silver Witch, Baba OhReally and 35 othersThomPaine, hopemountain, ravensong, Spanishprof27, nevereVereven, Koko, leveymg, TIME TO PANIC, Salemcourt, mrtrale, Utopian Leftist, Peace Patriot, Flying Squirrel, Ohio Barbarian, avaistheone1, Bluesuedeshoes, mmonk, JEB, GloriaMundi, Major Hogwash, ctsnowman, Pacco Fransisco, Two way street, iggy, MrMickeysMom, canoeist52, DamnYankeeInHouston, Carolina, Cassiopeia, LaaDeeDaaVA, elias39, joentokyo, Smarmie Doofus, Enthusiast, RadicleFantast like this
    Take Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  

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  • Marym625 (29835 posts)
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    1. I put this on The Daily Radical

    To remember the victims of our government. Sadly, that includes hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions. Specifically speaking about Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, all our people that were in the military, the U.S. as a whole. So many maimed, killed, tortured. So many victims. And

    These four young, healthy adults just starting out in life

    Take Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • Carolina (486 posts)
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      8. Thanks Mary

      The killing with impunity continues today… police on the streets; crazed citizens in American schools, churches, theaters, malls… and the US military in too many places to count!

      Guns proliferate, the war machine rages on, yet we’re #1 in…   along legacy of sad days: November 22, 1963, April 4, 1968, June 6, 1968, May 4, 1970.

      Those of us who lived through them all have continued to hope and have maintained our liberalism: our anti war stance and desire for economic and social fairness. We have never forgotten, and your reminder churns up poignant memories.

      So sad that so little has changed.

       

  • Enthusiast (13207 posts)
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    2. Recommended to the max!

    Thanks for the reminder, Mary!

    "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." Thomas Jefferson
    • joentokyo (943 posts)
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      3. People often say, "Well, they can't or won't kill us all." This makes me wonder.

         
      • Enthusiast (13207 posts)
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        4. Maybe they just want to scare us by killing a few hundred.

        They knew the war was ill conceived to start with. Started with a lie. Another lie, imagine that.

        "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." Thomas Jefferson
        • joentokyo (943 posts)
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          5. And it is the same today as yesterday. GE use to claim that progress is our

          business, our only business. The US slogan should be war is our business, our only business.

             
    • LaaDeeDaaVA (4269 posts)
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      6. Ditto. Thank you, Mary.

      Until lions have their own historians, tales of the hunt will always glorify the hunter.    African proverb  

         

  • MrMickeysMom (1970 posts)
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    7. And the universe wept…

    “When the firing happened, I felt I did not panic, held my ground, and obeyed my orders…I don’t feel they were people but ‘savage animals’.”
    –Sergeant James Pierce, Ohio National Guard, Troop G, handwritten statement, May 4, 1970.

    Hell no...I'm not giving up...     cat-gif-238.gif giphy.gif
    • Silver Witch (6485 posts)
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      19. When men see people as animals…

      All hope is lost….do not follow orders that kill the young and hopeful.

      Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost~John Quincy Adams  
  • incognito (2134 posts)
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    9. A sad and shameful day in history.

    Today it’s so much easier to kill citizens. They have drones just waiting for us – with militarized police departments/National Guard in every state to help.

    Look what they did to Standing Rock protestors – WITH OBAMA’S BLESSING.

    I see nothing good for the future of this fascist country. Nothing.

     

  • Pacco Fransisco (4387 posts)
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    10. They will do this again.

    I am L0oniX  Fuck David and his pin head DLC 3rd way herd of goats
  • Bluesuedeshoes (2586 posts)
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    11. I recall that day well.

  • Ohio Barbarian (9071 posts)
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    12. I remember, even though I was only 11 at the time. My mom had turned

    against the Vietnam War after the Tet Offensive two years earlier. My dad was a staunch supporter of LBJ, and we had some interesting family dinners for awhile. When my dad saw what happened at Kent State, he said, “Now this has just gone too far. We’re killing our own kids now.”

    He veered hard left politically for a few years after that. Made us real popular in a Texas Republican neighborhood, it did.

    Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.   
  • Tierra y Libertad (2368 posts)
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    13. Marquee at UCLA the day after. National Guard 4 Students 0

    What was truly appalling was that most Americans supported the national guards murders.

     

    But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants is the liberty of appearing. Thomas Paine

     
  • Major Hogwash (3883 posts)
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    14. That was a dark day for America, to be sure.

    That’s a good video by Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. I hadn’t seen it before.
    I also hadn’t seen the banner those college kids hung outside of their dorm rooms that said, “They can’t kill us all.”
    Wow. That was powerful.

    That was one hellova bad weekend at my house. My older brother exploded with anger after he saw the news.
    He was just about to graduate from high school, and he was seriously thinking of moving to Canada to avoid the draft.
    Those kids at Kent State never got justice, but neither did the kids that were drafted to fight in Vietnam.

    Now we find ourselves involved in 3, or 4, or 5 different wars, and the college campuses are quiet.
    The kids are almost passive.
    Like cows being led to the slaughterhouse.

    We’ve got to stop this nonsense of never-ending wars.

    Trump moya marionetka ~ Putin  
    • mmonk (3130 posts)
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      15. +1

    • Silver Witch (6485 posts)
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      20. +2

      Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost~John Quincy Adams  
  • iggy (2644 posts)
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    16. The Russians did it….

    Yeah, right….

    Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
  • ravensong (2292 posts)
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    17. Recommend, thanks.

    Destabilize the 1%.  "Together, together, my friends, we have begun a political revolution to transform America, and that revolution, our revolution, continues"... ~ Bernie
  • Silver Witch (6485 posts)
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    18. I have Ohio on my iPhone playlist

    I shall never forget.   Life is fleeting…stand tall and dream.

    Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost~John Quincy Adams