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    • #428587
      Sorbish
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      Biden has donated One billion dollars of Pfizer vaccine to 92 countries (@$19.95/dose).

      So… the purchase from Pfizer was funded via standard protocols.
      What I’m wondering is how authorization for giving away a fungible asset by the president works. He just gets to hand out goodies? Is there oversight requiring Congressional approval?

      I know people here are about to jump in my shit so let me say, I don’t object to the US being part of the international effort to extinguish the pandemic. Everywhere it exists it’s a reservoir to spread, again, so the fight must be global.

      But…

      I wonder how a president can give away a billion dollars of assets without Congressional approval.

      Ending the pandemic needs a shot in the arm.

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    • #428590
      HassleCat
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      The “billion here, billion there” quote is credited to him, even though he probably never said it. He should have, considering his concern with federal spending and that gravelly voice of his.

      • #428592
        Sorbish
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        of their ‘principled’ objection against getting vaccinated.

        Very near half the nation hasn’t gone for the vaccine. I think I can assume that means they don’t think it’s some that should be done. Now the US wants to send US purchased Pfizer vaccine to the world.

        HOW does the half the nation that thinks the vaccine isn’t safe, effective, worth the time, or within their moral framework reconcile said US government spending about $5 per taxpayer for the government to go to people elsewhere?

        If you believe the vaccine is a bad idea why would you assume that it’s ok for your society to impose the vaccine on 92 other countries?

        I really am not sure that a conversation, let alone House approval for spending, ever took place.

        Ending the pandemic needs a shot in the arm.

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        • #428601
          HassleCat
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          It does seem Biden’s unilateral decision will raise opposition. Even some of the people who got vaccinated will be against buying doses for poor people in other countries, and those who oppose vaccination for themselves will certainly oppose buying it for Aricans, Indians, etc.

    • #428603
      retired liberal
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      cost too much money. A badly needed bill to kick start the economy and get people out of ever increasing poverty.
      We just got a few more billionaires instead, courtesy of Pfizer.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
      The older we get, the less "Life in Prison" is a deterrent.
      Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

    • #428629
      David the Gnome
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      Opportunities.  “See how much of this great vaccine we are giving away!”  They first tried it with the astrazenaca which was known to have serious issues regarding quality control.  Some people probably explained why that was bad PR.

      So, Pfizer.  Balancing act.  Piss off the right, calm down the left.  Usually they do it the other way around.

      How does he have the authority?  He doesn’t.  No more than Obama had the authority for what happened in Libya.

      Congress rarely approves of much anymore – and when they do it usually involves tax breaks, incentives, or give aways for the rich.  The Presidents largely get away with the type of “executive action” they do because Congress is pretty fucking useless and most people know it.

      Looks good on paper, looks generous.  No matter how hard we are sanctioning Countries that are not “friendly” to U.S. interests.

      That said, I think it is still the morally correct thing to do, so i won’t argue that.  I will agree that his authority to give so much away is questionable at the least.

      That said…. if we waited for Congress to do things, they wouldn’t get done.  Kind of like they aren’t getting done right now.

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