A Brokered Convention Would Be a Disaster for the Democrats – Jacobin

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      WillyT
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      A Brokered Convention Would Be a Disaster for the Democrats – Jacobin

       

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      It’s tough to reach deep into the recesses of history and remember the February 19 Democratic debate, but a crucial moment transpired after two hours of the standard squabbling and platitudinizing. Viewers were presented with a surprising coda: moderator Chuck Todd asked the six contenders, “Should the person with the most delegates at the end of this primary season be the nominee, even if they are short of a majority?”

      Certainly not, said Michael Bloomberg: “Whatever the rules of the Democratic party are, they should be followed.” In an atypical show of consensus, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, and Amy Klobuchar all agreed that the party should “let the process work.” Bernie Sanders was the lone dissenter: “I think the will of the people should prevail.”

      Sanders’s response elevated the straightforward democratic principle of “whoever gets the most votes wins” above the abstruse protocol of the Democratic party — whereby, if no candidate breaks the 50 percent threshold, the convention moves to a second vote in which 764 elected officials and assorted distinguished Dems, the superdelegates, can break the self-imposed stalemate by adding their votes to those of the 3,979 pledged delegates. Superdelegates can vote for whoever they want, and their votes far outweigh those of ordinary citizens, by a ten-thousand-to-one ratio.

      One might ask, though, is it really fair to insist on scrapping the superdelegates now? After all, as a recent <cite>Esquire</cite> piece argued, “The rules are the rules. You all agreed to run as members of the Democratic Party and, as such you all agreed to abide by the rules that party set down for nominating its candidate.”

      But there’s a problem with this logic:

       

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      More: https://jacobinmag.com/2020/02/brokered-convention-democratic-party-bernie-sanders-election

       

       

    • #277089
      incognito
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      and they don’t care.

      I think, after Bernie has an overwhelming lead with no chance for anyone else to catch up to him,  someone should leak a Plan B…. running as an Independent if the nomination is stolen from him.

      Do what they’re doing…. leaking the fact they’re going to steal his nomination. So? He leaks he will run as an Independent and badly beat their asses in the GE.

    • #277104
      Mick063
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      If Bernie is denied in a smoke filled room, I will advocate for something different from 2016. Instead of leaving the top of the ballot blank, I will advocate to leave the whole damn thing blank.

      Not bluffing. The elected “Super delegates” will need to lose their individual elections and I think that notion can be sold.

      "I welcome their hatred" Franklin D Roosevelt

      • #277116
        jbnw
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        I won’t leave any of it blank – I just won’t for a Democratic Party candidate anywhere on the ballot.  There are plenty of other candidates running.  I have a letter ready for my representatives if they do such a stupid act.

      • #278217
        Pastiche
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        sounds like a grand idea that needs to be said LOUDER and more wide spread.

        That would be a pretty big project, making lists of all the former presidents, congressional leaders and big-money fundraisers to mayors, labor leaders and longtime local party functionaries.  But  it would be worth it if their undemocratic voting had consequences.

        “We’re about to have an election in which Incompetent A is going to be contesting with Incompetent B when both of them have demonstrated nothing remotely like any shred of adequacy to the scope of the problems we face.”

        Richard Wolff

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      eridani
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    • #278268
      retired liberal
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      Not vote for any Democrat on the ballot. There are very few Independents winning office and this will not change that.
      I have a better idea. THINK BEFORE VOTING. Vote for the person that best supports your ideals.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
      Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
      Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

    • #278281
      Babel 17
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      Nothing like a fuster cluck at the convention to reassure donors who just love having their names associated with expensive disasters. Pundits would also think to disavow themselves from a seeming disaster in the making. Failure is an orphan.

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