A Devil’s Memo to the PUMAs, Hillbots, DLC trolls and all the other brainless tools over at SV

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    • #493070
      Satan
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      You can post 666 different threads all stating the same thing, but it doesn’t make it true.

      HILLARY CLINTON WAS NEVER GOING TO BE THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.

      Accept that reality, and move the fuck on with your lives. Or don’t, I couldn’t care less. Just keep the whining to yourselves.

      Hillary was THE most favored candidate of ALL TIME in the 2008 primary. She had EVERY POSSIBLE advantage. Name recognition. Media airtime. The entire party establishment behind her. She didn’t have any actual political experience, but her name was Clinton, so who gives a shit, right?? I mean, that’s how Chimpy got in. (which of course it isn’t, but more on that later)

      All of this going for her, yet Hillary lost the primary to a guy that 98% of your country never heard of, before 2007, and since he happened to be a black guy, he got the historic “first ever/glass ceiling crashing” moment.

      This is the point where Hillary should have accepted her fate and moved on to private life. Actually, Obama gave her a cabinet gig, so maybe not so private…. but that’s not the point. She should have learned the lesson.

      Instead, she learned the WRONG lesson. She knew she couldn’t win the primary… so in 2016, she STOLE it. In every possible way imaginable, but the most blatantly obvious of them was through the absolutely UNdemocratic system of “superdelegates”, who…. oh what a surprise… turned out to be establishment party hacks 99 out of 100 times.

      Now when you alienate half of your voting base by rigging a primary in such blatant fashion, don’t be surprised if you lose when they don’t show up. And that’s exactly what happened. Wanna throw out the Electoral College card and say “she really won because she had 3 million more votes!111!!!1”. Well yes, but the slavery relic of the Electoral College was a KNOWN issue going into this and every other election. We all remember what happened – or at least what we were TOLD happened – in 2000 (but again, I’ll get back to that later) The thing is… the states WHERE she lost those crucial votes which allowed the electoral college to flip to a sentient circus peanut… those were three midwestern states which used to have a solid manufacturing industry, which was devastated by trade policies passed by Hillary’s husband.

      Should she be blamed for what Bill did? Well… when the only “experience” you have is living in his White House as First Lady and informally calling yourself the “co-president” at the time, the answer would be “YES”. And Hillary had already promised to double down on those disastrous trade policies, with the Trans Pacific Partnership. The Orange Imbecile claimed to oppose them. I never believed him for 1/666th of a second, but clearly enough of the voters in those states did. Not coincidentally, those states went for Bernie Sanders in the primary, who opposed the lame trade deals, for REAL.

      So who’s to blame for this week’s Supreme Court disasters? (yes, there was more than just one)

      First of all, let’s blame Bill Clinton for that sickening Telecommunications Act of 1996 which poisoned literally all forms of media in your country. There would be no FAUX Noise, no Sinclair Broadcasting, no Clear Channel Radio, no hyper-consolidation of TV networks, internet providers, print media, etc. to the point where you have less than 5 mega corporations in any given media industry. And I know how much y’all love MSNBC, but if you can’t see what a hard right turn they have taken since Scumcast completely took them over, then you’re willingly blind.

      Al Gore… Hey, I love his environmental work, but he should never have let those 5 Bush Crime Family appointed pieces of shit decide the 2000 election. The fact that they got away with it, is exactly what emboldened them to do every sickening thing they have done since that day, from Shittizens United & it’s 2 sequels, right up until the nightmare of this past week. Joe Lieberman was even worse. At least Al fought for his victory for 2 months. Liberdouche threw in the towel almost immediately (which is ironic, since he would go on to fight for the Senate seat he actually LOST in a fair primary election, with the full backing of the party establishment, of course) And eventually, the truth came out…. Al Gore WON Florida. Which made him the winner of the 2000 electoral vote, as well as the popular vote. Of course this news wasn’t published until after the events of 9/11/01, at which time the establishment “democrats” ( including Hillary Clinton, Joe Lieberman, and Joe Biden) were too busy passing the fascist “Patriot Act” and preparing for two illegal wars to worry about an actual stolen election.

      Congressional “Leadership” (an oxymoron if there ever was one) – Jellyfish Pelosi, Cuck Schumer (not a typo) and their friends did nothing to stop Yertle McTurtle from sitting on a vacant SC seat for nearly a year when Fat Tony Scalia died. And they did less than nothing when the bloated Orange Covid Patient fast tracked an incompetent Handmaiden’s Tale cult member onto the court in the last few weeks of his PresiDUNCEy. Not to mention Debbie Scatterbrained Lush’s horrible term as DNC chair, in which some 1200 Democratic elected seats were lost nationwide. Most notably in the Congressional midterms of 2010 & 2014. Maybe if you didn’t run so many shitty “blue dog” candidates, you would have more votes to get judicial nominations through. SHAFTA Tom Perez was no better (Amy McGrath, for fucks sake??) and from what I’m seeing, Jamie Harrison is prepared to go 0 for 3 in failed DNC chairs. Truth be told, Howard Dean was the only DNC chair in the last 40 years who was worth a shit at all, and just a look at the track record will prove a Devil 666% correct on that one.

      And yeah, we have to blame RBG too. She was sick for YEARS. She could have retired when Obama was President. You’ll have to ask her why she didn’t. If it was holding out for the myth of a “woman” being the one to appoint her replacement… well… that’s not really solid judicial reasoning, is it??

      And last but not least – in the immortal words of Herman Cain – BLAME YOURSELVES. Because you’re willing to delude yourself into thinking this fucking joke of a Turd Way DLC puppet show has any resemblace at all to the Demoncratic Party of FDR, which saved the US from fascism, both foreign AND domestic. Who’s going to save it now? It’s not going to be a party that shills for Big Pharma, Big Insurance, and who thinks “Intellectual Property” is something that actually means a goddamned thing to anybody who is NOT a corporate criminal.

      It was never Bernie. It was never Jill Stein or Ralph Nader or Nina Turner, or anybody else your sick little cult likes to use as a scapegoat. Get the fuck over it, and start thinking LOGICALLY about how to prevent things like this happening in the future. Here’s a hint… continuing to support the same failed policies you have pushed since 1992… well, the results are in: That shit ain’t working.

      Yours Most Unholy,

      Satan

       

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #493072
      Satan
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      You know who’s NOT mourning the loss of Roe vs Wade, or the further proliferation of assault weapons, or anything else this kangaroo court has done:

      Your new “heroes” Liz Cheney & the Lincoln Project, that’s who. You can bet your soul, they LOVE this dragonshit.

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

      • #493118
        beemerphill
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        The Democratic Party has been trying its hardest to screw things up and lose for so long that I think it will probably never return to its roots. The Party of FDR is gone, and its chances of it returning are slim. It is hard to imagine that the DNC is so blind that it can not see this. Your rant is what many of us have been thinking. Thanks for putting it all together so well.

        beemerphill

    • #493079
      Punxsutawney
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      😈

      In all seriousness, love this rant. Wish it didn’t have to be said.

       

      In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie.

      Most of today’s elites have the moral and social reasoning capacities of spoiled toddlers.

      “People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage...but the privileged also feel that their privileges, however egregious they may seem to others, are a solemn, basic, God-right. The sensitivity of the poor to injustice is a trivial thing c

    • #493082
      Bluesuedeshoes
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      Agreed

      Greg Lapalina

    • #493092
      snot
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      how Obama just rolled over when the Republicans refuse to talk to his S. Ct. nominee.

      We could all think of more, of course.

      Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

    • #493094
      MistaP
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    • #493097
      David the Gnome
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      • #493113
        djean111
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        Across the board.  Blaming things on older generations is, IMO, the equivalent of “taking your guitar and going home”, except, it seems, much of the younger generation takes to  their keyboards and never leave.

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/1184426/presidential-election-exit-polls-share-votes-age-us/

        And according to Pew –

        https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/

        After decades of constituting the majority of voters, Baby Boomers and members of the Silent Generation made up less than half of the electorate in 2020 (44%), falling below the 52% they constituted in both 2016 and 2018. Gen Z and Millennial voters favored Biden over Trump by margins of about 20 points, while Gen Xers and Boomers were more evenly split in their preferences. Gen Z voters, those ages 23 and younger, constituted 8% of the electorate, while Millennials and Gen Xers made up 47% of 2020 voters.

        When you play the generation blame game, you are just falling into that setting one group against another trap.  Harris/Buttigieg thank you.

        It takes courage, humility… And self honesty, to acknowledge the truth of America today.  My father’s generation lost that decades ago.  This is why so many of his generation voted for Biden.

        Oh, your generation could use some courage and humility and self honesty, too, it seems.  Keyboard and podcast warriors.  More of them voted for Biden than my generation did.  And ignoring demographics like Hispanic Americans and Black Americans seems a bit simplistic.  IMO.  This is all wonderfully whimsical to watch.

        America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

        "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

        A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

        • #493142
          JonLP
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          The young voters bailed out the Democrats because Republicans tend to do better with older voters.

          When it comes to Biden approval ratings he has fallen faster with young voters. Voting him over Trump isn’t a bad thing. In the primary Sanders won young voters in 2016 & 2020 but they didn’t turn out as well.

          Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

          Like many public systems, GOP want to rip the battery out + say the whole car doesn’t work, so they can sell it for parts - AOC

          • #493148
            djean111
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            Unless one loves war and austerity.  I don’t know anyone personally who will vote for a Democrat next time except my sister.  And that is because her husband is a Republican.  She still thinks Hillary was done out of a presidency that Hillary DESERVED.  We do not talk about politics at all if we can help it , but a few weeks ago she allowed that yes, both sides suck.  I am quite looking forward to voting against or not voting for whatever corporate warmongering tool the Dems serve up next time.

            America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

            "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

            A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

    • #493103
      David the Gnome
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      Just visited another realm, one of great stench and no intelligent life.

      They apparently think they just need two more Democrat Senators…

      So maybe some people really are that stupid.

    • #493107
      mrdmk
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      Just a question, is SV still a thing?

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

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    • #493109
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      Dyed in the wool blues salute the United Corporations of America so uniformly, they don’t even need SV to keep them in their straight jackets. All they need is a favorite personality: Rachel or some other idiot on The View.

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #493120
      David the Gnome
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      @djean111  and I mean that sincerely

      I apologize for not being more specific.  I did not intend to point to the entirety of your generation.  It was a generalization particularly meant in reference to those who had given up.

      Obviously I could have worded it better.  I do realize the flaws of my own generation, such as they are, in general.

      I grew up hearing stories about the sixties and seventies and what that time – and the people in it were like.  I know it wasn’t all guitars and bonfires, but I do wish I could have been a part of it.

      You’re quite right that lot of people my age – and myself in particular – hide behind our keyboards.  Or our video game controllers, or phones.

      I did not intend to offend with my post – and though it seems so, I did not mean to point the finger at people like you.  My frustration is more with certain people of my father’s generation, mostly those who gave up the fight.  I do not think you are one of them.

      What strikes me the most about that time is that there was passion and hope.  A desire and an effort to change the world.  I know that there were great struggles of that time – and I know that losing the heroes of that generation was a blow many never recovered from.

      I have deleted my post because it was wrong – and as an admission of my error.  It was stupid – and I don’t like it when I write stupid things.

      It is not your generation I have issue with.  It is my own elders, largely in my own family, who voted for Clinton and somehow genuinely believed in her.  Who voted for Biden but couldn’t see what he really is, no matter how many times I pointed it out.

      Not you, not your generation, just some people who happen to be of that generation.  I am sorry.

      • #493121
        djean111
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        IMO, the generalities about age and geographical location are pointless and divisive.  More importantly, they are of no help whatsoever.  That I can see.

        Like Bernie supporters in 2016 and in 2020, there were never enough hippies, guitars, and bonfires in the sixties to actually affect anything; the folks who run things already had control.  Hippies and protesters were beaten, rounded up  –  and even shot to death at Kent State.  While some groups point fingers at other groups, the ship of state just rolls right over everybody.  The year I graduated from high school, JFK was openly and casually, IMO, assassinated.  Look at what happened to the protesters at the Democratic Convention in 1968.  We don’t need excuses or blame, that’s all I am saying; that just deflects from what is going on.  And I no longer think things can be fixed at the  openly corrupted ballot box.

        America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

        "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

        A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

        • #493129
          game meat
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          The generational stuff isn’t entirely irrelevant, but we always ask the wrong questions and talk about the wrong people. When looking at regular people, it doesn’t matter. People don’t change all that much fundamentally. You get a broad range of attitudes and values whether someone was born in the 50s or the 90s. People can bitch about how Boomers gave us yuppies and Reagan democrats, but millennials gave us woke scolds and the alt-right.

          But who is actually going to run the country and have real power? Is the new generation of leadership any better? We get the newly minted ivy league grads and the half wit legacies coasting off the family name. That’s it. Nobody else matters in an oligarchy. Is there any reason to believe Chelsea and Malia are going to be an improvement over Hillary and Obama? We have Buttigieg, Matt Gaetz, lauren Boebert, Eric Swalwell, AOC. Are they going to be any better than Trump, Pelosi, Schumer? Meet the new boss…

           

          "He busted in, blessed be thy lord
          Who believe any mess they read up on a message board
          If so, I got bridges for the low low" ~ MF DOOM

          • #493131
            djean111
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            Well put indeed.  And I am afraid that younger folks will be voting for the likes of Harris and Buttigieg – who do not mean well for anyone but their donors – based entirely on race and age and gender and being “woke”.   Meet the new boss is correct.

            America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

            "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

            A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

          • #493147
            JonLP
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            Is something Boomers of both parties do. The Democratic boomers have mostly stopped because Republicans use the word for everything. Madison Cawthorn accused Zelensky of pushing “woke ideologies”.

            The word which started as an AAVE word meaning alert to injustice, especially racism is now no longer used by black people and some take anti-woke to mean anti-black.

            ‘WOKE WITH A HARD R’: HOW THE RIGHT CREATED A NEW DOG WHISTLE

            (snip)

            The word first blossomed in pop culture in an Erykah Badu track back in 2008. On “Master Teacher,” she breathily whispers about how she’s trying to find her way to a beautiful world (and herself). As the afro-crowned crooner goes on to dream about this world, she poses and answers a question: “What if it were no niggas / Only master teachers? / I stay woke.”

            Throughout the rest of the song, Badu uses this refrain, “I stay woke,” imbuing it with a mystical yet practical meaning. It’s a way to speak to the dual social consciousness of Black Americans. We can never be just one thing. Even when we chase the American Dream, we must “stay woke.”

            (Snip)

            Then, Ferguson happened. After Michael Brown’s murder, the BLM movement leapt into the national consciousness. With it came wokeness, a culture unto itself. “Woke” soon started to serve as a shorthand among people calling for the world to wake up to the systemic racism that was causing Black men and women to become hashtags at an alarming rate. Next, as often happens, white people seized on woke as a handy catchall. As such, woke morphed into an online signifier, but one generally used by young, well-meaning white people who were urging others to become aware of the racist agendas operating against Black life. Woke became a semi-hip racist critique.

            Quickly, though, woke also became the opposite. It became a polite slur, a dog whistle used to mock anyone who dares to suggest that American history and culture is racist, and argues that life in America should radically change based on that understanding. This new cultural meaning for “woke” helps to explain why, when Senator Josh Hawley recently lost a big book deal, he didn’t pause to reflect on the fact that he’d incited a riot in the nation’s capitol that claimed five lives; instead, he blamed “woke culture.”

            https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/woke-with-a-hard-r-how-the-right-created-a-new-dogwhistle

            I also see centrists now railing against “identity politics” over fears of losing elections when the Democrats were centrist or right wing on economic issue you could at least count on them sometimes to be left wing on social issues now they want to be right wing or centrist on both like the Republicans.

            FTR I think AOC would be much better than Obama or Pelosi. She would be like Bernie.

             

            Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

            Like many public systems, GOP want to rip the battery out + say the whole car doesn’t work, so they can sell it for parts - AOC

            • #493151
              djean111
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              She seems like a poser to me, and while Bernie might be enough to get me to vote Dem one more time, the woman who showed up at an expensive party with an expensive dress that said eat the rich on her ass is, as I said,  a poser.  I do not doubt she is very intelligent.  Anyway, we all shall see.  Since I am not a Democrat, I am not holding my breath to see who the DNC anoints, nor am I cheer-leading for them nor do I care about them in the sense of hoping they do well – because the Dems doing well does not translate into the people doing well at all.

              That would be a killer campaign slogan, though – AOC!  Better than Biden or Obama!  Brought to you by the very same folks who sold you Biden and Obama!

              America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

              "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

              A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

            • #493159
              game meat
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              The same old bad faith nonsense (get some new material!) that accuses anyone who sees things differently as being racist conservatives (where have I seen this before?).  And also, for some reason, boomers, apparently. In the interest of civility, I’ll leave out the specific location, and just say that you should use your imagination to puzzle out where I think you can stick this implication.

              If it’s not an issue of intentional dishonesty, then it’s an issue of astounding ignorance to claim aspects of wokeness/idpol are only critiqued from a far right perspective, and have not been critiqued from a variety of perspectives, including from various factions of the left. Regardless of intention,  it’s a standard example of the guilt by association fallacy.

              But the only reason I mentioned it at all was because the 2010s culture wars (the alt right and the now antiquated ‘sjws’ “) were largely millennial driven, and the younger politicians who rose to prominence after piggy backing off those movements have not been an improvement over the older leadership. I completely disagree with you on AOC. She’s been well integrated into the status quo, and it’s been obvious to many for some time. Pandering aside, she’s shaping up to be a younger version of Pelosi. So, yea, meet the new boss… Standing by it for the time being.

              "He busted in, blessed be thy lord
              Who believe any mess they read up on a message board
              If so, I got bridges for the low low" ~ MF DOOM

              • #493162
                JonLP
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                I was thinking of the people over at SV where young bashing is common. I don’t know what David the Gnome said that brought up millennials but I was just giving my perspective on how the usage of the word evolved and now used mainly as an insult by Republicans— I see it in campaign ads all the time.

                I didn’t say that is how I took it but others I follow take it that way. I got the melmagazine article from the person in my signature line.

                Pelosi & others are endorsing and campaigning for Democrats like Henry Cuellar while AOC & Bernie endorsed Jessica Cisneros. It is like that when it comes to other races. Also compare voting records.

                Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

                Like many public systems, GOP want to rip the battery out + say the whole car doesn’t work, so they can sell it for parts - AOC

                • #493165
                  djean111
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                  they know a bill will never pass – they just get progressive campaign creds that way.  Anything progressive is going to be Manchined anyway.  I believe Pelosi coordinates that stuff.  The Democratic Party is the place Progressives go to be totally pointless now, IMO.  But they raise a lot of money – the most important thing to the Democratic party – and snooker progressive voters.   Having a favorite progressive politician in the Democratic Party is like having a favorite wrestler in the WWF (or whatever) – it is all scripted and fixed.   Done with that.

                  America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

                  "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

                  A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

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