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Choose ANY of these COVID conditions to reflect your experience

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  • First COVID
  • Second COVID
  • B / C Booster
  • Omicron Booster
  • Booster, I got COVID anyway
  • More than one booster, I got COVID anyway
  • Never got COVID
  • No jab - No COVID
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    • #498839
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      Wino and I were discussing something I was gonna do a while ago, but I delayed, mostly due to reading the entire Fauci book, which was a long-ass read…

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #498843
      djean111
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      No jab, no COVID, so do I choose never got COVID – which would skew the results if you are looking at jab efficacy and participation, I think?

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" Baelish

      VFTBNMW is, IMO, literally "take the blue pill".

      • #498844
        Mr. Mickeys Mom
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        I believe it was gonna be either or, so good catch.

        Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

      • #498846
        Mr. Mickeys Mom
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        I can see if I can ad your response, if you can’t again, @djean111

        Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

        • #498848
          djean111
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          I was able to choose no jab, no COVID.

          America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

          "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" Baelish

          VFTBNMW is, IMO, literally "take the blue pill".

    • #498855
      Ohio Barbarian
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      I had Covid in February 2020, and was required to go to work the whole time. I coughed all the live long day long for two weeks straight and infected I don’t know how many people in that office. THEN they did the lockdowns, except for people like me.

      I’m so essential.

      I got the first two jabs. I got the delta or some other variant after the second jab, but it manifested as a mildly annoying cold.

      Since then, it’s been Vitamins B, C, and D every day and not so much as a sniffle or a cough. I regret getting the first two jabs. Now my trust in government and pharma is so low that I won’t even get a flu shot because I don’t trust them not to fuck with it.

      Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

      The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

    • #498861
      jbnw
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      Too early with symptoms and tests were limited.

    • #498869
      doh1304
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      my answer is 2 jabs, 2 cancers, 1 hemophilia.

      To be accurate about 3 months after I got the 2 jabs I suddenly started to bleed for no reason and no stopping. The hospital couldn’t explain, though since it was my gums they recommended a deep cleaning. This seemed to work, but a while later I got 5 hours of red urine and a CT scan. No bladder cancer. but 3 pancreatic cysts. An MRI said I’m not going to die (at least not yet) but I’ll stay away from the excess deaths list thank you. BTW, I think I got omacron in January, It was sniffles and an annoying headache for a few hours. I took a nap and it was gone when I woke. Worst cold I’ve had in 30 years.

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

      • #498907
        Mr. Mickeys Mom
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        Nobody should have to go through that shit, although getting Omicron on top of it probably gave you better antibodies.

        So, did any of the health care professionals think your immune system set you up for the pancreatic cysts? Did they measure pancreatic enzymes?

        This case was interesting.

        Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

        • #498924
          doh1304
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          I live in CA, where any doctor who even attempts to find out if there is a relation between my cancer scares and mRNA vaccines will lose his license.

          In a related matter I was watching Redacted, and they cut the broadcast to avoid Youtube censors, but the headline sounded like they were saying that bloodbanks were not accepting donations from the unvaccinated. In what the blooodbanks were calling a blood shortage crisis! If so how many people will die from this madness?

    • #498883
      chknltl
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      I didn’t see that as an option in this poll.

      If I had to do it all over again, I still would NOT have gotten one of their so called “vaccines” and been just fine believing that my catching Omicron should have given me a natural immunity as good or arguably better than their untested experimental “vaccines” could provide.

      Am I a luddite? A conspiracy theory subscriber? Am I someone who believes that aliens from Tralfamadore are trying to depopulate this planet?

      No, no and definitely NO!

      It was from the start and always was: My Body My Choice.

      By the time I caught Omicron, after following Dr. John Campbell and others, I knew from the data that the so called vaccines could not stop one from catching and retransmitting the virus.

      Early data coming out of South Africa, where a great many citizens did not have access to the vaccines, showed that they suffered through the Delta wave like everyone else but along came Omicron which took over the top spot once held by the Delta variant.

      At first, Dr. Cambell was quite concerned at the higher transmissions of Omicron in South Africa-he warned us that the UK and the US would be next.

      Dr. Campbell feared even higher death rates due to this rapid spread of this new Omicron variant.

      But surprisingly, deaths from Omicron went down instead!

      Better yet, the data out of South Africa showed that once infected by Omicron, the chances of getting further infections from Covid-19 also appeared to go down.

      To my way of seeing the early data, the vaccine manufacturers were not on my side, the government was not on my side, the MSM was not on my side, peer pressure was not on my side, censorship was not on my side…

      But history was on my side.

      While excess deaths rates, on average worldwide, are going down,  new data is suggesting that deaths from Myocarditus-(sp?) have escalated past where they should be.

      Worse yet, birthrates are dropping. Considering the lockdowns, one would think birthrates would be higher instead.

      We are still in the early stages of discovering what the vaccines are doing to the Earth’s citizenry.

      I suspect history will remain on my side.

      I fully believe that the citizenry of our planet is due an honest explanation from uncensored medical experts.

      • #498893
        Ohio Barbarian
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        Bill Gates said that it was unfortunate so many Africans were getting the Omicron variant and surviving, because it was acting as a natural vaccine for Covid, preventing it from mutating into more profitable variants. Profitable for Bill Gates, of course.

        Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

        The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

        • #498914
          chknltl
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          But from his point of view ($$$), he was right

          While I was following the data, apparently so were those who profited from the so called vaccines.

          It explains why the profiteers went to great lengths to censor all but what they wanted us to hear.

          In a country “Of, By and For us”, the citizenry deserves to know the stark truth.

          From what I can tell, the bulk of the citizenry gobbled up what the vaccine manufacturers were selling because their primary source to the data had censoredship written all over it.

          In other words, I do not blame the citizenry, I blame a worldwide fear mongering campaign designed to con the planet’s citizenry.

          IMO, It was a conspiracy, a very good one where our governments and our media went along with it.

          There. I said it.  I’ll likely not be the first.

          I am a layman but I now honestly wonder: What actual good did those vaccines provide?

          Did they stop the pandemic? Nope.

          Did they prevent anyone from catching Covid-19? The school is out on that but I suspect the answer will be no again.

          Mitigating the harsher symptoms is not the same as stopping one from catching the very source of those “mitigated” symptoms!

          Did they prevent the transmission of Covid-19? Nope (Getting a vaccine in order to visit granny in a nursing home was not only wrong thinking but dangerous for granny!)

          Don’t even get me started on the lockdown mandates or the Covid passports or even proof of vaccinations in order to dine at a restaurant!

          Those mandates sounded to me like a macabre South Park episode!

          “What do you mean by not allowing me into a restaurant or theatre where the vaccinated were inadvertently spreading the infection anyway???!!!””

          That one above all angered me.

          I got very very lucky in that L.A. had lifted their restrictions a week prior to my seeing the very band which had been on my bucket list for four years.

          Yeah, I am quite upset by how I was treated by peer pressure, by the mandates and by the media.

          That anger has not gone away.

          FWIW, I thought owning a Yugo was a bit silly. I know someone who, to this day swears by them!

          He will likely swear by his one J&J vaccine because he “wanted to visit his daughter!”

          YouTube has given me a strike for expressing my thoughts on this topic.

          Funny that, YouTube is where I get most of my information.

          I dunno, I’ve probably broken at least a dozen rules at JPR just now …

          …after two years,  I wanted to vent.

          Just my opinions.

          Adding:

    • #499102
      emme
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      I didn’t get vaxxed until July 2021 when we had a huge Delta outbreak here. I did not want  the mRNA, and I was well past the 18-49 female cohort advised not to get the J&J, so got it. In the fall, second shots were recommended, and got that also.

      Six months later, boosters were being pushed hard. J&J was not available locally at that point. I grudgingly got a Moderna shot, as everyone I knew who got Pfizer caught covid. Some a second time after an early infection pre-vaxx. I’ve had no issues from any of the shots, but still irked with myself for getting the Moderna.

      I think the reason I’ve not had covid is mostly luck, as I don’t have the infection opportunities a lot of people have. No kids or grand kids, not around many cute little Petri dishes nor attending school programs, indoor sports, etc. Don’t go to church, avoid shopping at peak hours, and mostly avoid indoor dining. Given restaurant prices right now, I’ve limited myself to new little soul food place in walking distance of home. They are cooking from scratch, food is so good, and want to see them succeed.

      When the news came out the Pfizer bivalent had been tested on eight mice. I LOLed. When Rachel Wolensky got covid one month after her booster, it appeared the booster was no better at prevention than the original. We are told the vaxxes will keep us out of the hospital. I am not convinced. At this point, I think a lot of factors determine severity of  illness. Personal health, genetics, viral load of exposure and so on.

      Currently, I am back wearing a KN94 mask when I go to stores, etc. Not at work, as we are spread out and have good ventilation/filtration. I would like to skip all the respiratory bugs going around, flu, RSV and whatever else is out there.

       

       

      • #499130
        Mr. Mickeys Mom
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        Getting the public to go along with anything the CDC recommend and FDA approved is so wrong and in your face, I find it pretty amazing. What iss the saying, “the bigger the lie, the more likely people will believe it”…

        Going along with the lie helps if years go by after you had little to zero education on any kind of biology course, let alone anyone who has had anatomy and physiology, which never covered immunology as it should have in school. The result is that much of the public have gone along with the $10Billion dollar marketing plan for Pfizer and Moderna.

        I’m not sure I’ll wear my KN95 mask anymore, although there is one person who checks groceries at the local Aldi’s who always has a mask on, so I slip mine on for his benefit when I’m in line.

        I never got H influenza when working in the ICU as a respiratory therapist and neither did some nurses I worked with. There are some who will not react to being around the strains of covid and frankly, the more contagious and far less virulent covid exposure is probably the best way to ensure the kind of antibodies one might need. This is all based on best practices of medicine, so this isn’t fringe. It’s the truth.

        Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

      • #499149
        djean111
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        Still makes me laugh.

        America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

        "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" Baelish

        VFTBNMW is, IMO, literally "take the blue pill".

    • #499131
      doh1304
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      Proably the strongedt immune system on Earth – at least with regards to respiratory viruses. Me, I’ll have to settle with “cab driver immunity”.

    • #499154
      Dunatus
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      I had the first series as soon as they were available as the media had successfully scared the shit out of me given my general illness anxiety. I slowly woke up to the fact that there were ‘issues’ with these ‘vaccines’ and decided not to get boosted from here on out with these gene therapy experiments. I finally caught COVID over the summer and, while it sucked, was nowhere as bad as I was told it would be. Haven’t caught it since even after multiple close exposures, travelling, etc. I’m hoping that eventually my body will purge the vaccine from my system without too much long term damage. I might consider a standard attenuated vaccine for covid at some point, but I’m not taking any more of the mrna.

    • #499268
      Babel 17
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      But I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten COVID a few times last year, and this year. What should be my most accurate response to the poll be?

      “Booster, I got COVID anyway” looks closest.

      I have no proof, not even the strong empirical kind, that I ever got COVID. I even took the test I got through the mail a couple of times, though I didn’t really have even mild symptoms, just to see if it was lingering in me.

      I could be one of the lucky not so few who just never got exposed enough, or have enough natural immunity that COVID never made a breakthrough in my system.

      The gyms I go to were among the last to adopt masks, and among the first to ditch them when the law allowed. Many ignored the law when it was in effect. Ditto that for the supermarkets I shopped at. As I’ve mentioned, I live in an area where Sanders got more votes than Clinton, and Trump easily did the same, so there’s a real anti-authoritarian vibe going on.

      COVID-19 was making the rounds in my area. I live in New York, within commuting distance of NY City, with a local airport to boot, and we even had one of the nation’s biggest COVID-19 hotspots a few miles from me. The demographics of the gyms I went to is very diverse, though unsurprisingly it leans young, active, and social.

      And with so many Trump supporters among them I know they socialized without masks. So if I wasn’t breathing in COVID-19, and repeatedly touching it, it would be a minor statistical miracle, imo.

      Edit: I had a few times of feeling extra achy, where it hurt a bit to cough, and my sense of taste felt a bit off, but the power of suggestion might be the real culprit there. Still, it had me thinking at the time that I was likely exposed.

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    • #499335
      Snort McDork
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      I'm Snort McDork and I approved this message.

      "I like Birdy Num-Nums"

      • #499337
        Mr. Mickeys Mom
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        But, you could check with @nvwino, as she suggested those…

        Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

      • #499343
        NV Wino
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        “The” COVID shot was a two part shot. Then there was a booster still targeting the original COVID. Then there were multiple variations of boosters, including one for delta version, which I forgot when suggesting the categories for the poll. All this was made more confusing with the different brands; Johnson & Johnson being a single original shot for instance. And, as far as I know, the most recent booster is targeting the omicron variation.

        For my part, I got 1 and 2 and the first booster. Then I broke my arm, got COVID, my arm became infected (cellulitis) and I went on 42 days of oral Cipro, plus three infusions—all of which prevented me from getting another booster until I recently got the omicron booster. I debated about even getting the omicron booster, but I had no bad side effects from the other shots so I figured it wouldn’t do any harm.

        “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
        “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

    • #499635
      closeupready
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      People have to make a living, and work. Government said, you do this, or else lose your job, which took the choice away from most people, effectively.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

      • #499644
        Mr. Mickeys Mom
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        What is more frustrating is that, in the attempt to understand the dysfunction of the govt about this, especially Fauci’s role over agencies for this long a period of time, is doing honest reading about what those agencies were to have done to help people. especially since they should have been honest about coordinated clinical studies. When I read RFK Jr’s book about this, which pretty much took me all of this past year into this year to start talking about (here), there were people all around me in real work environments and those who should have known better where I volunteered (e.g. the general public) who had cognitive dissonance over this. They just could not believe that agencies so closely tied to big businesses could be in it for the money… But,  they were not only in it, they were defended it, due to the money.

        Now, as if nothing purposely was being covered up, little by little, they are being exposed. And where is Fauci during this? He’s still being protected. It NEVER sat well with  me, and I’ve had congressional staffers hang up on me for even suggesting it. Uh-huh…

        Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #501002
      glinda
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      • #501014
        Mr. Mickeys Mom
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        Sounds esoteric as hell…

        Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

        • #501744
          glinda
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          Must have done some strange autocorrect. I wish I had something erotic. I thought I was going to die. Still not the same since.

          I may have tried to say “It seems like I did”. Had all the symptoms.

          Animals know more than we do.

          • #502005
            Utopian Leftist
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            I think you meant “exotic,” rather than “erotic,” haha.

            Then again, I suppose Fever could be erotic: at least the song is, anyway.

            “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” ~ Krishnamurti
            "Given the choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voter will choose a Republican every time." ~ Harry Truman

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