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  • OzoneTom (826 posts)
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    A New Harvard Study Just Shattered the Biggest Myth About Bernie Supporters

    Ryan Grim and Markos — you are both FOS.

    “…
    Obama Labor Secretary Tom Perez encouraged the Clinton campaign early on in the primary election cycle to demean her opponent by labeling him as a favorite of white men and unpopular with the African American, female, and the Latinx demographics.
    …top Democratic thought leaders are still irresponsibly peddling the myth to major media outlets today. Markos Moulitsas — publisher of liberal blogging site Daily Kos — insisted to the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim last week that Bernie Sanders supporters were overwhelmingly white and male

    Despite all the new data, it remains unclear whether or not leading Democrats will cease use of the “Bernie Bro” myth to justify their hatred of his policies and unflinching opposition to the establishment.
    …”

    http://thepoliticalorder.com/new-harvard-study-just-shattered-biggest-myth-bernie-supporters/
    http://resistancereport.com/politics/harvard-poll-bernie-supporters/

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  • duckpin (2146 posts)
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    1. Moulitsas/Huffington – a nice fit. Both are neoliberal entities and

    neither will seriously address the real problems of falling living standards and rising pollution. They support the utter sterility of identity politics to avert any moves toward working class solidarity. They support the wrong side in the ongoing class war.

    "The justness of individual land right is  not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged "
  • DoctorJ (443 posts)
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    2. they have a psychological and financial interest in having the party die

    The radfems and others whose existence is tied to their group’s perceived persecution need badly to have the November fiasco attributable to white men and their profound, inherent character flaws.  Here’s a clue, folks:  A lot of the 56% of white women who voted for Drumpf in the GE would have voted for Sanders if we had offered that choice.  A whole shitload in fact.

    As for Kos, he makes a lot of money by pandering to to the first group I described.

    Finally, with respect to Bernie, if the identity politics chronic butt-hurt folks would rather support a train wreck like the Clinton campaign, that’s their loss.  Pretty soon they’ll have to find another party though because this one is on death’s doorstep.

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  • resist99 (863 posts)
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    3. Just a smear campaign

    When his opposition have no good reason to disagree with his policies they have to attack him in some other way. It is an obvious tactic and I wish more people would see through it.

     

    My first wish is to see this plague of mankind, war, banished from the earth. -George Washington ... We could start by cutting the Defense Budget and stopping all the war propaganda.  
    • INTJ (2018 posts)
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      15. Typically feeling threatened is a major motivation for attacking others

      Not saying it’s the only motivation for attacking others, but being threatened is very very common.

      So, Sanders and his supporters have been ignored, laughed at and are now continuing to be attacked.

      I suspect Ghandi would advise us that in the near future, Sanders and his supporters next stage is winning.

      Grant us the vision to see what must be changed and save us from making it even worse.
  • SandersDem (667 posts)
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    4. They couldn't attack the man

    so they made the mistake of attacking Democrats and others that supported him and it cost them dearly as I wasn’t the only one to tell the Party goodbye.  For the record, I am white and male and upper middle aged.  I take the entire “Bernie Bro” meme as a personal affront and guess what. In the end I still voted for her and it made me sick, it still makes me sick.

    Fuck Moulitsas, Fuck SV and everybody else that peddled that horseshit.

    It still pisses me off to this day.

  • SurrealAmerican (621 posts)
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    6. Here are the stats from your linked article:

    However, a new survey conducted by Harvard University and The Harris Poll disproves all of those comments about the Sanders coalition with hard numbers. According to the survey results, which were conducted among 2,027 registered voters between April 14 and April 17, 2017, Sanders is actually more popular among women, African Americans, Hispanics, and Asian Americans than white people and men.

    According to the survey, 55 percent of men and 52 percent of whites approve of Bernie Sanders. However, Sanders has the support of 73 percent of African Americans, 68 percent of Hispanics, 62 percent of Asian Americans, and 58 percent of women. And even though Sanders identifies as independent rather than Democratic, 80 percent of Democrats approve of him.

  • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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    9. Well, look how well he did in Hawai'i, the whitest state of all.

    :sarcasm:

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  • senz (5174 posts)
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    12. African Americans, females, and Latinx were used, exploited, as weapons

    against the only candidate who fought for civil rights his entire life.

    And this was Tom Perez’s idea?  No wonder Bernie scowls as he sits there and listens to the pusillanimous little corporate suckup at the … “unity” … tour.

  • OzoneTom (826 posts)
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    13. StevenD posted his response to this brouhaha at the GOS

    And it is well worth a read. Not going to post a link to that site as it is probably hidden or taken-down by now. Fortunately, he has cross-posted it on the K4S Reddit:

    Markos Still Promoting Fake News About Sanders’ Supporters (according to Harvard/Harris Poll 4/17) from Kossacks_for_Sanders

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  • Fasttense (1280 posts)
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    16. That was why I got kicked off that other site

    Because I claimed Bernie was NOT a racist and was marching for civil rights when Hillary was a RepubliCON. How dare I write in the African American forum that Bernie had done more for Civil Rights than Hillary ever did.

    I got angry and got banned then I just quit. I remember when that site was all about telling the truth and avoiding propaganda.

    JPR has allowed me to keep my sanity.