A Progressive Position Against the Concept of Bipartisanship as it Exists Today, and a Warning for the Oligarchy.

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    • #11882
      Ohio Barbarian
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      This morning, on ABCs This Week, Congresscritter John Delaney, capitalist extraordinaire, recipient of Ernst & Young’s Entrepeneur of the Year Award, Vichy Democrat, and candidate for the 2020 Democratic nomination, held forth on his vision of bipartisanship.

      To sum it up, he said that if elected President, for the first hundred days he would only move forward on those issues that could muster bipartisan support in Congress, and work on all of those wonderful progressive things he claims to endorse such as universal health care later. My reaction: 

      Where have we progressives heard this sort of talk before? Campaigns headlined by names like Hillary, Barack, John, Al and Bill come to mind. Even when they win, these corporate barnacles always come up with some oh-so-commonsensical-sounding reasons why it just isn’t time yet to do things like actually improve the standard of living for 90-99% of the American people, and brag about their unifying bipartisany message that never accomplishes anything that doesn’t ultimately benefit our ruling oligarchs.

      I have had quite enough of this bipartisan bull excrement, thank you very much. To be blunt, I don’t want bipartisanship on the things most of us so desperately need. I am not willing to compromise the lives of my children and stepchildren and say, “Well, that was the best we could do. Better look for a third crappy job.” I don’t want a policy that will bring more wealth and prosperity to all Americans because such a thing cannot exist in today’s world.

      I want to see the top 1% a good deal less prosperous and less powerful than they are now. I want to see lots of them in prison or exile, and I wouldn’t shed a tear if some of them suffered a worse fate. They don’t care about me or mine, so don’t ask me to care about them and theirs after a lifetime of struggling to keep my family’s head above water so they can enhance their stock portfolios.

      I want nothing less than a political revolution. I want nothing less than to see the majority of people in this country have a real say in how our government and economic system works. I want empowerment of the working class and a loss of power for the billionaires. More than that, I question whether billionaires should even be allowed to exist!

      Who needs them, anyway? What good are they? They are not creating enough good-paying jobs to lift up the majority, and it is not in their interests to do so, so why should we expect them to change now?

      No. I want to see their assets seized and redistribution of wealth on a massive scale. I want to see their hold on both political and economic power broken, and me and mine have been through so much crap that I am getting less and less particular about what the means of breaking their power are, and I know I am far from the only one who feels that way.

      If anyone who is reading this and is comfortable or wealthy feels a bit of trepidation, you should. The anger is real. The desperation is real. Bipartisanship is just a fluffy illusion. But look on the bright side, comfortable and wealthy people. There is a way out of this for you that does not involve taking your chances on violent revolution and civil war.

      It is called Social Democracy. This is what Bernie Sanders and Our Revolution are about. This is what most American progressives are about. If you are wealthy or comfortable, I suggest you join them and help them make their dream a reality, for if you don’t, you will have to deal with people like me or my stepkids and their increasing anger, or something far worse than us. And time is running out.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #11891
      ZimInSeattle
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      Spot on OB. Recommended for the Daily Radical!

      "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK #SurviveAndRevolt

    • #11919
      incognito
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      Pitchforks are at the ready. The time is coming.

      Their unadulterated GREED will be their downfall. It’s only a matter of time.

    • #11945
      jwirr
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      I do not believe in bipartisanship. When you have two groups (1% – 99%, Rs & Ds vs Progressives) so far apart there is no room for compromise. It is all about winning or losing.

      jwirr

    • #11972
      chknltl
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      <p style=”text-align: center;”>You have my vote! I might have to switch to Bernie if for some reason you don’t run.</p>

    • #11979
      Utopian Leftist
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      I WOULD be all in favor of bipartisanship . . . IF our empire had two viable political parties. Being that we only have one: the Capitalist Party, and its two faces of Republican and Democrat, I have become ANTI-PARTISANSHIP!

      "All fascism is a result of a failure of the left to provide a viable alternative." ~ Trotsky

    • #12008
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Figured you’d see it that way. I agree, of course. That is why I want to see Vichy Dems like Henry Cuellar primaried.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

      • #12157
        Two way street
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        OB, a good start to the progressive primarying of TX Rep. Henry Cuellar is to pick apart Julian Castro’s platform or campaign, as he runs for President, beginning now.  Cuellar is from a very Blue District so the pitchfork-pick apart-should have been stated in 2018.

        IMO, Bernie could be of great help if he would get behind the funding of  the ‘pick apart’ of Cuellar.  Cuellar will be up for re-election in 2020 again.  So having a Progressive challenger as soon as possible to speak on the corporate greed and business class Cuellar-Castro comradery, is very important.  Castro has already announced (a 2020 Presidential run).

        🙁

        2020-2024 Campaign Season: We the People are in the fight for our lives and livelihoods.

    • #12057
      ravensong
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      BRAVO!!!

      “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

      The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.
      ~ Unknown

    • #12099
      Enthusiast
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      The sentiment you expressed runs deep on JPR. As we knew it did.

      If we are to maintain anything that even remotely resembles a democracy we must either seriously limit the influence of money in elections or enact a maximum wage. We cannot have both enormous wealth and no restrictions on campaign contributions.

      I would like to remind you that U.S. health insurance companies do not contribute anything to health care. They are only a PARASITIC middle man receiving an undeserved cut of "FREE MONEY".

      Me

    • #12111
      peacecorps
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      Conservatives (whether of the GOP or DNC variety) love ‘bipartisanship. For the most part they share the goal of enriching the 1% so why not cooperate? Progressives know that bipartisanship leads to a continuation of what exists today.

      The Big Lie: "Make the lie big, Make it simple, Keep saying it, And eventually they will believe it." AH.

      "Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect." JG

      National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not solved with more nationalism.

    • #12148
      sonofspy777
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      “muster bipartisan support in Congress”

      Nowadays you can only get bipartisan support for renaming a Post Office!

       

       

      We’re PISSED OFF!

       

      “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
      ~Samuel Clemens

    • #12167
      ThouArtThat
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      Aptly named “Corporate Barnacles” and their enablers will never “feel the pain” until their lifestyles are seriously compromised with a loss of affluence.  And since their enablers – the Oligarchs, Corporations and Banks – run the tables, the probability of any change to their affluence is highly unlikely.  What America needs is a wholesale reset in attitude and perspective.  However, changing attitudes and perspective at the level of a “reset” is daunting given political inertia and human resistance to change.  Moving forward, the most likely political outcome is more of the same “bipartisan bullsh**” and piecemeal incrementalism.  This is what the 1% are counting on to maintain their hegemony.  Sad to say, given the current American mindset and obvious delusions, substantive change will be illusionary until or unless the 99% are ready to really “burn the house down”.

       

      "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
      - George Orwell

      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
      - Jiddu Krishnamurti

      "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
      - Idries Shah

      "A riot is the language of the unheard."
      - Martin Luther King

      "Hope is faith waiting on tomorrow."
      - Anonymous

    • #12184
      David the Gnome
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      I have written such warnings myself in the past – I do not expect most of the wealthy to heed them.  Yet this is where all predictability and organization flies out the window.  Grab the pitch forks, the torches… and then?

      It is rarely said out loud, but the next step is to use them.  The oligarchy is so comfortably entrenched that threats would never suffice.  So, where then, do those pitch forks and torches go?  Even speculating about this is risky, even if it’s just online.

      Military discipline being what it is, even now… a good many would follow orders.  They would not likely consider alternatives until after one or many tragedies.  By then, it could well be that thousands of us angry peasants and our families lie in unmarked, mass graves.

      Someone at 2.0 said something along the lines of “They could pay one half of the Country to kill the other half.”  They (they being the wealthy and comfortable overlords if this society) would be likely to do so as opposed to sharing the wealth.

      Perhaps this is cowardly of me – but I would much rather we live.  I have no interest in becoming a martyr for some future civilization.  The results of revolution are always uncertain – and while I am not a pacifist (though I have nothing against those who are) I would not be the pitch fork and torch wielder unless finally given no other way to survive.

      It could come to that.  My hope is that progressive politicians and legislation will alter the status quo before it does.  I do not believe it is quite too late yet.  The rich will grumble about taxes – but they would rather pay them than go to prison.

      In that direction, I think, is our greatest hope, but….

      Time is indeed running out.  I don’t want to live through a violent revolution, i dont want any of us to have to.  It may happen anyway… if things dont change soon, it is almost certain to.

      I admire your bravery and your passion my friend – and if that time comes i would stand beside (or behind, barbarian shield!) you.  In the meantime… let us all hope it does not come to that.

      If it does, those like you – and probably me, would likely be the first casualties of a revolutionary war.

      • #12190
        ThouArtThat
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        Time is running out for many of us.  The remaining runway is short and growing shorter.  And given climate change, any remaining runway may be illusory at best for most everyone.

        "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
        - George Orwell

        "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
        - Jiddu Krishnamurti

        "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
        - Idries Shah

        "A riot is the language of the unheard."
        - Martin Luther King

        "Hope is faith waiting on tomorrow."
        - Anonymous

    • #12739
      David the Gnome
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      This piece belongs on the daily radical, greatest page, or whatever we are calling it now.  Strongly recommended for such.

    • #12743
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      Cold Mountain Trail
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      From post #1257 by 2 way street, to wit:

      IMO, Bernie could be of great help if he would get behind the funding of  the ‘pick apart’ of Cuellar.  Cuellar will be up for re-election in 2020 again.  So having a Progressive challenger as soon as possible to speak on the corporate greed and business class Cuellar-Castro comradery, is very important.  Castro has already announced (a 2020 Presidential run).

       

      I responded to it, but it wound up at the bottom of the heap as is typical.  Seems to me this is one of the reasons discussion peters out quick now — its hard to follow because of misplaced posts.

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