A sad day – I finally unsubscribed to email from Bernie yesterday

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    • #318789
      jbnw
      Participant

      I have been on his mailing list for over 5 years, and his first e-mail was April 30 2015.  The message still resonates:

      I am writing to inform you that I will be a candidate for President of the United States. I ask for your support.

      Add your name to support my campaign.

      For many months I have been traveling from coast to coast across our country, and have had the opportunity to meet with thousands of good, hard-working, and remarkable people. Like you and me, they are deeply concerned about the future of our country.

      They wonder why they are working longer hours for lower wages. They worry about whether their kids will be able to afford college or get decent jobs. They fear that they may not have the savings to retire with dignity and security.

      I supported him through two campaigns, but can’t see a path forward for any of his policies in the United States today.

      I’ve of course DemExited to independent – there may still be hope in the future, but I don’t see a path forward right now.

    • #318791
      leftcoast mountains
      Participant

      one of these days. I unsubscribed after 2016. This next time it will be for good.

      #DestroyDems

    • #318792
      gordyfl
      Participant

      I still get Bernie emails. Heck, I still get Biden emails. Lately I just read a few sentences of Bernie’s emails, then I delete it. I only open half of Biden’s emails, if that. Those two and Tulsi were the only emails I would accept.

    • #318795

      Though I worked on his campaign through both cycles…

      Whereas, I had people stay at my house in 2015-16 and donated, this time around I was gun shy….I did think he was a shoe-in and sort of held my place in line with a token donation and taking food to the campaign headquarters in Keene, NH……..Even if he had continued to whatever extent, the reality was always that he had a limited shelf life.  His leadership days are over as is, in my view, reform from within the Democratic Party.

      The planet is in peril from pandemics, climate change, nuclear war and capitalism aggravating all of the above.

      No, I don’t see a pathway forward with business as usual.  To think otherwise is the definition of insanity.

      The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

    • #318796
      MissDeeds
      Member

      I was hurt and angry that after twice cheating him out of being the nominee, he fell in line and endorsed the DNC hand picked candidate. We were willing to go the distance for him, fight the good fight, and not cave but shout “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore” from the roof tops. I wanted him to be the fighter I envisioned.

      I still have my Bernie bumper stickers, yard signs, tee shirts, and buttons. I know he has his reasons, no one ever said politics was fair, but somehow I didn’t expect him to go without a fight.

      Edit to add: Sorry about the excessive use of “fight”. I’m in a bad mood today. LOL!!!

       

      • #318832
        jbnw
        Participant

        @missdeeds I hate the result, but I can’t bring myself to blame Bernie.  I believe he’s an honorable man.  Unlike Joe Biden, he couldn’t bring himself to send people out to vote in Wisconsin and risk becoming ill.

        Supporting Joe Biden?  Again, he’s kept his word to support the nominee (even if just presumptive).

        And frankly, after five years of being blamed for horrible Democratic candidates by media and the DNC, I can imagine that he just had enough.  So many people jumped on the Joe Biden bandwagon just before the South Carolina primary it’s hard to imagine it wasn’t orchestrated from the highest levels of the Democratic establishment, and easier for Bernie to say “enough.”

        So the Democrats now possibly have the world possible candidate in the history of their party and while I am disappointed and Joe Biden puts me in a bad mood too, I cannot bring myself to blame Bernie for the Democratic Party debacle.

    • #318808
      Cold Mountain Trail
      Participant

      “I know he has his reasons, no one ever said politics was fair, but somehow I didn’t expect him to go without a fight”

      +++++

    • #318813
      HalfCentury Man
      Participant

      He has been spot on for 4 decades; so, his opinion still has some merit to me. He is just one source out of many I use to steer my way through the cascades of these times.

      I am, and was, positioned to the left of most of his platform. For example, I think the billionaires are a cancer on society. I would suggest a wealth cap of 100 million dollars per person, and a cap on inheritance at 12 million from each parent. That thing that makes the wealth is society not any one person in it. Temporary custody of a portion of that wealth is fine, but it is transient. The wealth should return to the society at large upon the death of a financial hoarder.

      I wish we humans didn’t get old, grew timid, or caved to political pressure. That is right up there with my dream of riding a dragon.

      Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

      John F. Kennedy: 13 March 1962.

    • #318828
      Tokenlib
      Participant

      Even glancing at Bernie’s occasional emails now is torturous. After unilaterally disarming and disbanding the “army” which is still wandering in search of it’s needed and  justified “revolution”, any statements he now makes on the issues seem futile and “pissing in the wind” without the political capital he squandered in rolling over for Biden.

      Why I haven’t unsubscribed?  I don’t know… I glance and delete quickly.

       

      • #318830
        Ohio Barbarian
        Moderator

        I peeled his bumper sticker off my car the same day he endorsed Fascist Joe. I quit listening to anything he had to say after he said I would be irresponsible if I didn’t vote for Joe Biden.

        I didn’t leave Bernie Sanders. He left me.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

        • #318838
          jbnw
          Participant

          @ohiobarbarian I will still consider him honorable and following his commitments, even though I don’t like them.  At least I haven’t seen him hold a fundraiser for Biden yet, but it wouldn’t surprise me, and I would consider it as part of his commitments though it would not be received well – including by me.

          He’s 78 and had a heart attack on the campaign trail – I am, well, not content, but maybe accepting to let him rest.

        • #318846
          Tokenlib
          Participant

          The thing that will always sadden me about Bernie is that when it came to the “Not me, Us.’  He ended up worrying more about the promises “me” made, then he did being concerned about “Us.”  The “Us” that ended up believing in him and his positions, that gave of their last dollars from positions of financial insecurity when it wasn’t wise to do so.  The “Us” that would have fought the establishment to the bitter end. In the end, he left “Us” and showed us a lack of respect for us by expecting us to abandon our principles for the establishment. It’s one thing for him to make that choice, yet another to demand that of us.  He betrayed us in doing that.

        • #318880
          GlennDITM
          Participant

          I felt very sad, but my frustrated anger once again took the steering wheel. I am voting Green and I am (again) 100% certain Trump will win again.

          "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."- Winston Churchill

        • #319245
          Carolina
          Participant

          The capitulation was simply too much, especially since Joe Biden is the antithesis of all that Bernie stood for.

      • #318834
        jbnw
        Participant

        @tokenlib Yes, that and pissing in the wind seems right.  For petitions to have any impact, there has to be someone willing to pay attention to them – and our current government and candidates mostly demonstrate that they just don’t care.

    • #318836
      PADemD
      Participant

      I haven’t unsubscribed yet.  Just voted for Bernie in the PA primary and will probably write in Bernie in the General Election.  I contributed too much money to Bernie to waste it on a vote for Biden.  Biden will not get a dime from me, nor will I volunteer for his campaign.  The money I contributed to Bernie’s campaign was divided among three down ballot Democrats.

      • #318840
        jbnw
        Participant

        @pademd I just couldn’t bring myself to vote for Bernie in the Oregon primary because of the campaign agreement that says a Bernie delegates become Biden delegates.

        I cannot vote for either Biden or Trump – I will wait a few months and see what other candidates appear on the general election ballot.  I will either find a candidate I can vote for, or leave it blank . . .

    • #318839
      roody
      Participant

      Nor has Bernie asked for$ for Biden. I did not renew my monthly donation.

    • #318847
      Jan Boehmerman
      Moderator

      I took the opportunity to explain WHY!  Doesn’t look like he listened to me.

      • #318850
        jbnw
        Participant

        I just couldn’t bring myself to say it’s now pointless after five years of fighting for us while fighting the media and the DNC at the same time.


        @janboehmermann

    • #318852
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
      Moderator

      I sent my write-in for Bernie… June 2 is also our wedding anniversary, so I want to mark that day with my husband.

      As of that day, I will remove the Bernie sign in our front door, our Bernie sticker for 2016 (still on the car), and the “Bernie Beats Trump” sticker I placed on the car this year…

      I step up and lead myself from that day forward.

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #318877
      Satan
      Participant

      ..including Bernie’s, AOC, and Our Revolution. Not to mention all the others I never signed up for in the first place, which of course I got spammed with because I signed petitions which were affiliated with “The Action Network”. A few good people use that network, but unfortunately it’s become a big part of the DLC/Turd Way propaganda machine.

      Worst of all was the Obama/Eric Holder controlled “National Democratic Redistricting Committee” (or whatever it’s called) which literally spammed my inbox 20 times a day or more with random garbage. Uh, I’m not trusting those two idiots to do anything about Redistricting in 2020, because in 2010 when they were actually IN CHARGE, they didn’t do shit about it.

      Even for the few politicians, groups & causes I still generally agree with (which includes Bernie & AOC, despite their embrace of the Dementia-addled Biden) I just don’t need to be asked for money 666 times a day while I’m trying to keep an entire Underworld functioning during the worst pandemic in over a century.

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #318927
      incognito
      Participant

      And the first text message I received about him endorsing JoeMentia, I sent him “STOP.” Haven’t had anything from him for months. I even have a hard time watching videos of him so I don’t. I don’t enjoy discussions about him anymore either. I just don’t care.

       

    • #318961
      Maedhros
      Participant

      Unsubscribing is a reasonable response.  Doesn’t mean you hate the man, after all, just that you don’t want to give Biden money.

      His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
      but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
      and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
      more deadly than his right had been.

      • #319003
        Ohio Barbarian
        Moderator

        @maedhros It just means we strongly disagree with him on the issue of endorsing and supporting Joe Biden. I think it quite understandable for people not to want to be barraged by a sales pitch for a product they do not want.

        In this case, that product is neoliberalism, lies, more war, more giveaways to the corporations, and other things undesirable to anyone as far left as Eisenhower.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

    • #318976
      MikeW285
      Participant

      I unsubscribed to his mailing list after he quit and then backed the groper. Also unsubscribed from his YouTube channels. I still have my Bernie 2016 buttons, 2020 car magnet, and my Feel The Bern coffee mug.

    • #318995
      ColorsoftheRainbow
      Participant

      I live in Michigan.

      Over the weekend, I received a letter soliciting for donation by the state’s junior U.S. senator Gary Peters.

      I have never donated to him.

      I live in the congressional district represented by Debbie Dingell. I figure it is mainly the reason I received that mailing.

    • #319000
      Pam2
      Participant

      I guess I’m still interested in whatever Bernie’s attempting to do in the Senate. I haven’t gotten anything telling me to donate to Jomentia.

       

      • #319221
        CatInSeattle
        Participant

        Bernie has started a revolution that is still on IMO. I am not mad at him, and I do think he has the whole country at heart when he withdrew. The bitterness the last election cycle had between we REAL progressives and fake liberals was awful and I do not think he wanted to see that again and was trying to stop that (see I am still mad, using fake libs, etc., lol).

        Peaceful revolutions take time and people can take a lot of guff before they finally have had it enough to rise up. As an activist for several decades I can tell you it has taken that long to get anywhere near the way I have fought for it to be.

        I say keep all the ideas up in the air. We already know they have power. I am not going to take my ball and go away. I am going to keep pitching it until the day I die. Not because I am stubborn (I am) but because my hopes has gotten farther than it ever has.

        Remember Gandhi’s saying about the 4 steps of protest:

        1. “First they ignore you”
        2. “Then they ridicule you”
        3. “Then they hurt you”
        4. “Then you win”

        The hardest part of those 4 steps is the “then they hurt you” part. It is then most people give up. Believe me I have seen it in most social justice movements that I have participated in. I do not want to let that happen with me and I hope a lot of you as well.

        Yes it hurts. But to power through that is when victory is the most likely to happen. Is Bernie the only one who could do this? I do not think so, I have more than the most confidence in the coming generation. They are old souls and wiser than their own parents. I will be here to help them out if they want my assistance.

        I hope this helps.

        Love, Cat in Seattle

        >^,,^

    • #319113
      Pastiche
      Participant

      I am still on one of Bernie’s email list (I unsubscribed from two during the active part of the campaign). I definitely unsubscribed to AOC’s.  Damn, three emails a day was norm for her.  Her fund raising skills should please Nancy P.

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