About 99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly Covid-19 breakthrough case, CDC data shows

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      eridani
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      https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/31/health/fully-vaccinated-people-breakthrough-hospitalization-death/index.html

      The CDC reported 6,587 Covid-19 breakthrough cases as of July 26, including 6,239 hospitalizations and 1,263 deaths. At that time, more than 163 million people in the United States were fully vaccinated against Covid-19. Divide those severe breakthrough cases by the total fully vaccinated population for the result: less than 0.004% of fully vaccinated people had a breakthrough case that led to hospitalization and less than 0.001% of fully vaccinated people died from a breakthrough Covid-19 case.

      The agency shared a study this week that showed the Delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they get infected. Experts continue to say that vaccination makes it less likely you’ll catch Covid-19 in the first place. But for those who do, the findings suggest they could have a similar tendency to spread it as unvaccinated people. That study also convinced CDC leaders to update the agency’s mask guidance on Tuesday, recommending that fully vaccinated people also wear masks indoors when in areas with “substantial” and “high” Covid-19 transmission to prevent further spread of the Delta variant. Guidance for unvaccinated people remains to continue masking until they are fully vaccinated.

      But experts say those vaccinated, while they may be able to transmit the virus, remain very well protected against getting seriously ill. Amid the latest surge of Covid-19 cases nationwide fueled by the Delta variant, local leaders across the US are reporting that the majority of new infections and hospitalizations are among unvaccinated people.

      The Delta variant is now so contagious, one former health official recently warned that people who are not protected — either through vaccination or previous infection — will likely get it.

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    • #438287
      Bernie Boomer
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      that fully vaxxed people are dying in large numbers.

      They’re saying that they are testing positive – and sometimes becoming ill to the point of hospitalizations – and, perhaps most importantly, carrying a sufficient viral load to transmit the virus to others (and potentially serve as virus petri dishes for mutations).

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        salemcourt
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        1,630 deaths amongst the vaccinated.

      • #438306
        Ohio Barbarian
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        I don’t believe vaccinated people can be carriers. That goes against everything I’ve known for decades about immunology, which is a fair amount for a layman. I think the CDC has been politically compromised.

        And if I have to start masking up again to go into a grocery store after I have been vaccinated, I’m going to be very pissed off. At the liberals who are pushing this fearmongering when they should be doing everything they can to get people vaccinated.

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          Bernie Boomer
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          My understanding is that unless the vaccines are 100% effective at preventing someone from getting the virus, then vaccinated people who ‘catch’ it are carriers. Whether or not they carry a sufficient viral load to transmit the virus to someone else is a different question. Presumably, the latest data (from Israel, the UK, Johns Hopkins, etc – in addition to the CDC) suggests that they can – potentially – transmit the virus to others. I assume that is because the Delta variant reproduces more quickly and creates a higher viral load in an infected person.

          With the exception of a lock-down last year, I’ve been working through this, exposed to people, wearing a mask. I’d love to be able to stop wearing a mask but the virus doesn’t seem to care what I want, so I’ll keep doing the same thing, and continue trying to keep myself informed through a variety of sources and countries.

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            eridani
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            They prevent people from dying or having permanent disability from it.

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      It means if one is vaccinated, one is far less likely to develop anything more than an annoying cold than to get killed in a vehicular accident. The corporate media isn’t emphasizing this for several reasons, and one of them is pure capitalism–profit. More people watch the corporate media when they’re scared and/or angry, so they fearmonger to increase their ratings.

      I also suspect worse motives, like obscenely wealthy investors trying to drive more small businesses under so they can swoop in and buy up real estate cheap, but the first one I mentioned is bad enough. Capitalism corrupt the media like it does everything else.

       

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