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    Alabama May Allow Church to Form Own Police Force

    You can call it a God Squad.

    An Alabama megachurch is seeking to establish its own police department — and a bill that would green light the force is already moving through the state senate.

    The 4,100-member strong Briarwood Presbyterian Church, located in suburban Birmingham, contends it needs its own police force to counter any potential threats because it is also home to a K-12 school and a theological seminary with 2,000 students and teachers.

    “After the shooting at Sandy Hook and in the wake of similar assaults at churches and schools, Briarwood recognized the need to provide qualified first responders to coordinate with local law enforcement,” church administrator Matt Moore said in a statement, referring to the mass murder of 20 first graders and six teachers at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut by a deranged man with an AR-15 style rifle just before Christmas 2012.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-may-allow-church-form-own-police-force-n735811

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  • Hobbit709 (2072 posts)
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    1. How much you want to bet they had plenty to say about Sharia law?

    I won't shut up and I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing
  • nxylas (254 posts)
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    2. I wasn't expecting that

    But then…

    "Slavery followed, even voluntary slavery; the weak eagerly submitted to the strong, on condition that the latter aided them to subdue the still weaker. Then there were saints who came to these people, weeping, and talked to them of their pride, of their loss of harmony and due proportion, of their loss of shame. They were laughed at or pelted with stones." - Dostoevsky, The Dream of a Ridiculous Man
  • Punxsutawney (1115 posts)
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    3. I hope they plan on funding it themselves

     

    Of course, at that point, it’s really only private security though from the article it sure looks like state support. That’s a slippery slope.

    I assume that they will have their own courts and prisons as well. 

    So many questions.

     

    To neoliberals, everyone and everything are disposable. -  Chris Hedges  “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith
  • PADemD (916 posts)
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    4. SB193

    SYNOPSIS: This bill would authorize Briarwood Presbyterian Church, organized as a nonprofit church under Alabama’s nonprofit corporation law, to employ police officers under certain conditions.

    http://alissearch.legislature.state.al.us/texis/search?dropXSL=&pr=2017RS&prox=page&rorder=500&rprox=500&rdfreq=500&rwfreq=500&rlead=500&sufs=0&order=r&rdepth=0&query=sb193&cq=&submit=Execute+Query

  • Green Dog Dem (3276 posts)
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    5. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

    Aloha! KamaAina in the hale (house).
  • Half Century Man (712 posts)
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    6. I'm okay with it,

    IF,  Whatever church desires to hire armed police has to employ security forces outside of their religion.

    Hamid Yehmina sounds like a lovely guy to head security in a megachurch.

  • WillyT (7807 posts)
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    7. And So It Begins…

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    The ACLU of Alabama is urging Waggoner and other lawmakers to vote no to the Briarwood police force — and no to another bill called The Alabama Church Protection Act that would enable to churches to tap gun-toting congregants for security and provide them with legal protections if they shoot anybody.

    “It’s our view this would plainly be unconstitutional,” Randall Marshall, the ACLU’s Acting Executive Director, told NBC News.

    In a memo to the legislature, Marshall said they believe the bills “violate the First Amendment or the U.S. Constitution and, if enacted, would not survive a legal challenge.”

    “Vesting state police powers in a church police force violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment,” his memo states. “These bills unnecessarily carve out special programs for religious organizations and inextricably intertwine state authority and power with church operations.”

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    From article @ OP.

     

  • Ferd Berfel (3948 posts)
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    8. then all religions get to have their own

    Cant wait to see the Pastafarians uniforms

    …and you think you’re going to stop this simply by ‘pulling a lever’, in a booth, behind a curtain, every 2 years? - Know yourself. And if you need help with that, call the FBI. -  There is only ONE solution to this mess:  New Party !