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  • leftcoastmountains (5412 posts)
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    Andrew Gillum Flip Flops On Medicare For All/JDS

    The Jimmy Dore Show
    Published on Sep 20, 2018

    Average Gazoo, daleanime, Two way street and 8 othersPam, gordyfl, Baba OhReally, Enthusiast, Xyzse, Bearian, MrMickeysMom, ThouArtThat like this
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  • ThouArtThat (7773 posts)
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    1. Increasingly – Progressive Candidates Are Becoming Suspect

    eom

    "In America Today, Power Corrupts and Money Corrupts Absolutely" - Anonymous  
    • iggy (3340 posts)
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      2. Yeah, it's easy to call yourself a progressive

      It’s another thing to deliver.

      “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels
    • CalGoldenBear (2407 posts)
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      3. "Talk is cheap" from these stand-up guys and gals who want to

      get into office.  Then comes the “proof of the pudding,” and they show how “actions speak louder than words.”

      Supposedly for the U.S. House, at least, getting reelected the first-time around is tougher than initially getting elected.  If true, that should be pointed out to the likely Dem newbies lick Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who should be careful about speaking in superlatives, like Der Donald does.

    • Enthusiast (15880 posts)
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      5. They are suspect to me.

      I am tired of betrayals.

      "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." Thomas Jefferson
  • GZeusH (4286 posts)
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    4. He's running for governor, Jimmy.

    Governors have as much to do with Medicare4All as goldfish have to do with mail delivery.  If you’re going to give Gillum any grief at all, give him grief for going off-message.  Remind him to drive home what he is going to do to improve the Florida state government, which is what he is running to head.  Raise the state minimum wage? That’s something he could work on.  Improve the focus on climate change adaptation?  That’s something he could do.  Work on Medicare4All legislation?  Not in his ballpark.

    в NewYorkTimese нет известии, и в WaPo нет правды.
  • Xyzse (4479 posts)
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    6. Seems like the difference between Gillum and Obama

    Obama was more disciplined and sticks to his lie.

    Obama campaigned on Single Payer and only walked back on it when he was already President.

    I think Hillary may have infected them all with some sort of lack of impulse control. Where they have become so desperate for that corporate hand out, they can’t even keep to a position any more.

    That’s sad.

  • djean111 (7958 posts)
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    7. Gillum, as governor of Florida, has no impact on Medicare for All.

    He could, I think, expand Medicaid, though. Why would he even touch this subject? I unsubscribed from his emails when they started to be all “impeach Trump!” – same thing, Gillum has no actual say in that. What would he do for, ya know, Florida? And all the impression I am left with of his campaign ads is “First black governor in Florida!!!!!”. Can’t tell if he is playing the DNC game in order to get elected, or is just another Third Way wolf in progressive clothing. This is Florida, and the Democratic Party**** has no scruples (I could stop right there) about working against him in the general election.

    • *Obligatory disclaimer - when I say "Democratic Party" I mean the DNC - the Clintons and the un-elected people and the consultants and the lobbyists and the corporations who actually run things.  The people who work and vote and are registered as "D" are no more the actual party than Trekkies are Star Trek.   Extra credit - the Democratic Party gets to actually fuck up your life. When you vote for it.
    You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
  • Two way street (4284 posts)
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    8. It seems that the New Democratic Party has three healthcare plans that it is

    juggling like three balls.

    Ball 1 is HR 676-the most comprehensive universal single payer plan.

    Ball 2 is S-1804 the Better Deal plan of Medicare-ACA plan that Sanders is pushing for which is a four year plan of Medicare Extra in year 1 of Medicare for those 55 and above, years 2 picks up those 45 and above, year 3 picks up those 35 and above, and then by year 4, Medicare for All completely replaces ACA.

    Ball 3 is strengthening ACA the unsettling plan of the corporate members of the New Democratic Party.

    Bernie has 16 co-sponsors for Senate Bill 1804.

    The Humanist Report did a video on this with the Connect the Dots Lady, Andrea Witte. The two Congressional Bill are discussed beginning about 45 minutes into Mike’s video post here on Universal Healthcare/Medicare for All, just a few days ago.

    This made me feel so sad. It was Hillary that said she could accommodate those 55 years old and up, during one of her speeches/part of a speech, on healthcare in 2016.