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    • #238544
      Segami
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      Anti-Impeachment BlueDogShit-Stain Democrat Poised to SWITCH Parties

       

       

      “…..Anti-impeachment Democrat poised to switch parties. Democratic Rep. Jeff Van Drew (N.J.) will switch political parties after voicing opposition to impeachment, sources told The Hill. Van Drew has begun informing his staff and fellow New Jersey delegation members that he will leave the Democratic Party, Democratic aides said. His decision comes after a lengthy Friday meeting with President Trump. Van Drew is one of just two Democratic lawmakers who voted against launching an impeachment inquiry into Trump. He is a member of the centrist Blue Dog caucus…..”

       

       

       

       

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    • #238545
      Hobbit709
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      Is not and never has been an actual Democrat.

      Just another phony corpo-fellater.

      I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing.

    • #238551
      salemcourt
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      Maybe he got tired of supporting the intelligence community on their coup attempt on very flimsy grounds.

      • #238559
        MistaP
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        him specifically? nah

        but I didn’t think this caper would backfire this hard: only 14 Dems to go now

        • #238576
          game meat
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          And it’s starting to look somewhat plausible that enough dems may abandon this particular sinking ship. Predictably, the televised hearings did not shift public opinion toward supporting impeachment in any significant way, which is what the dems were betting everything on. This guy won’t be the last. There are plenty of dems in reddish districts, and few repubs in blue ones. Besides, dems frequently break with party consensus, but repubs almost never do.

          This could backfire even worse than I thought.

        • #238789
          Babel 17
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          @mistap

          There’s the old switcheroo that sometimes gets trotted out and it’s already been alluded to, however obliquely.

          Two votes on separate articles of impeachment, and Democrats in swing districts get to vote for one, but not the other.

          If the polling looks really bad then more Democrats, those in districts just iffy, also play that game, and neither resolution passes.

          The third alternative is that one does pass, but since it’s just one, and since the House impeachment managers would only deal in theatrics, the Senate trial would be over in a blink of an eye. And Warren, Klobuchar, and Sanders would only have to take a few days off from campaigning.

          It’s possible that all three have subtly signaled their unwillingness to play along with a month long trial. They’ll call for Trump’s head, but they might not be willing to cheer on the House impeachment managers laying out a lengthy case with lots of witnesses, as that would allow McConnell the cover to allow Trump’s team to call lots of witnesses, and as a bonus undermine the Democratic primaries.

          Biden and Buttigieg having the field to themselves would cause an uproar, and since Trump is basically guaranteed an easy acquittal, progressives will wonder WTF was wrong with those who ran the impeachment of Trump. They’ll ask what was gained, and what was lost. Sanders losing a month on the trail while Trump gained a boost in the polls would be grounds for bad feelings.

          And then a small but significant percentage would wonder at how convenient it all was for the establishment. They got to fund raise off of impeachment, and then hobble Sanders and Warren in the process.

    • #238558
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      great news!  the more Rs that go to their true home w/ trump, the better for the ds.

       

    • #238571
      3fingerbrown
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      Good. The sooner all these worthless Third Way/Blue Dog/New Democrats go join the republican party, where they all belonged in the first place,  the better.

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

    • #238572
      ColorsoftheRainbow
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      Before opening this thread, I was guessing West Virginia U.S. senator Joe Manchin.

      Manchin won re-election in the midterm elections of 2018 by +3, down from +24 in the presidential election of 2012, and his seat is next scheduled for the presidential election of 2024. West Virginia has hardened its Republican support to a point in which it is redder than Alabama. So, Manchin is on his way to either switching or retiring.

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      ColorsoftheRainbow
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    • #238580
      RufusTFirefly
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      Gotta strenuously but respectfully disagree with @salemcourt

      If that’s truly what motivated his decision, it makes no sense. If you lived in the same place for years but truly hated the new renovation to your living room, you wouldn’t respond by burning your entire house down.

      If his sole beef was with the impeachment process, he could have officially declared himself an Independent and caucused with the Democrats.

      Bernie has done this with great effect on the left. Drew could’ve done this on the right.

      No, I suspect that Drew has always been a Republican at heart. He just made it official. If so, I’m in agreement with many others. Good riddance! I’m tired of seeing the Democratic Party held hostage by faux Democrats. Granted, it will be harder at first to lose his vote, even if it’s a DINO vote,  But ultimately it will help to finally move the Democratic Party back to the left where it belongs.

      And besides, we don’t even have to worry about being criticized for primarying Crew. We can nominate an actual progressive and then trounce Crew in the general election.

       

    • #238595
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Good bye, good riddance, and may you become former Congressman Drew next year.

      It’s a pity Pelosi, Schumer, and about a hundred others don’t join him. It would be a good thing for everyone to see their true colors now.

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      Satan
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      Good riddance. Now if only the rest of the lying piece of shit never-actually-demoncrats would follow him. They could all have very short careers in the Republican party and be defeated by actual Demoncrats next November.

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #238627
      Average Gazoo
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      Pelosi and the Hillary/DNC’s Russiagate / Ukraine Hunter Biden nonsense loses a seat without an election.

      These people drove the Dem party into the ditch — they should not be driving the tow truck.

      They know removal has no shot and that is why they never mention what happens if Pence is President. Total show and yet another major, ill-timed strategic mistake by team Blue.

      Sure the guy is/was a DINO but half of them are and they still count toward majority. Pelosi forced his hand and he is likely only the first casualty in Pelosi’s debacle.

      Be the Change

    • #238631
      doh1304
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      Don’t start dancing on graves before they’re dug. The death of the fascist Democrats will take time, and much damage will be done as it falls. America might well turn into a homicidal dictatorship before an honest party can form, and the human race will very likely become extinct first, but at least there’s hope.

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      Segami
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      And to top things off……

       

       

       

      “…The DCCC intervened in a competitive primary to lift Jeff Van Drew to the party’s nomination. He’s now switching parties and becoming a Republican. The DCCC should blacklist itself….”

       

       

       

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      • #238970
        Electrolyte Orchestra
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        To me, that is the worst part. The DCCC spending resources to promote DINOs and sink the next generation.  These incumbents really don’t care about anything but re-election and they will kill the party’s future for another visionless, rudderless term or two. Terms in which a few of them will vote the other way to make sure the conservative agenda is the only agenda that moves forward.

    • #238721
      MizzGrizz
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      I wish they’d all go the Republican Party where they belong.

    • #238729
      ravensong
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      A Moderate Democrat, by any other name, still smells like a Republican.

      “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

      The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.
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      Stockholmer
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      complete list of centrist, moderate, conservative DINO’s
      they now control around HALF of the Dummicrat House caucus (almost all the 2018 gains were DINO’s)

      New Democrat Coalition    101 Members, so many of the new freshman/freshwomen class

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrat_Coalition#New_Democrat_Coalition_members_(House)

      Alabama

      Terri Sewell (AL-7), Vice Chair

      Arizona

      Ann Kirkpatrick (AZ-2)
      Tom O’Halleran (AZ-1)
      Greg Stanton (AZ-9)

      California

      Pete Aguilar (CA-31)
      Ami Bera (CA-7)
      Julia Brownley (CA-26)
      Salud Carbajal (CA-24)
      Tony Cardenas (CA-29)
      Gil Cisneros (CA-39)
      Lou Correa (CA-46)
      Jim Costa (CA-16)
      Susan Davis (CA-53)
      Josh Harder (CA-10)
      Katie Hill (CA-25)
      Scott H. Peters (CA-52), Leadership at-large
      Harley Rouda (CA-48)
      Raul Ruiz (CA-36)
      Adam Schiff (CA-28)
      Norma Torres (CA-35)
      Juan Vargas (CA-51)

      Colorado

      Jason Crow (CO-6)
      Ed Perlmutter (CO-7)

      Connecticut

      Jim Himes (CT-4), Chair

      Delaware

      Lisa Blunt Rochester (DE-AL)

      Florida

      Charlie Crist (FL-13)
      Val Demings (FL-10)
      Al Lawson (FL-5)
      Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (FL-26)
      Stephanie Murphy (FL-7)
      Darren Soto (FL-9)
      Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-23)

      Georgia

      Lucy McBath (GA-6)
      David Scott (GA-13)

      Hawaii

      Ed Case (HI-1)

      Illinois

      Cheri Bustos (IL-17)
      Sean Casten (IL-06)
      Bill Foster (IL-11)
      Raja Krishnamoorthi (IL-08)
      Mike Quigley (IL-05)
      Brad Schneider (IL-10)

      Indiana

      André Carson (IN-7)

      Iowa

      Cindy Axne (IA-3)

      Kansas

      Sharice Davids (KS-3)

      Louisiana

      Cedric Richmond (LA-2)

      Maryland

      Anthony G. Brown (MD-4)
      David Trone (MD-6)

      Massachusetts

      Seth Moulton (MA-6)
      Bill Keating (MA-9)
      Lori Trahan (MA-3)

      Michigan

      Brenda Lawrence (MI-14)
      Elissa Slotkin (MI-8)
      Haley Stevens (MI-11)

      Minnesota

      Angie Craig (MN-2)
      Dean Phillips (MN-3)

      Nevada

      Susie Lee (NV-3)
      Steven Horsford (NV-4)

      New Hampshire

      Ann McLane Kuster (NH-2)
      Chris Pappas (NH-1)

      New Jersey

      Josh Gottheimer (NJ-5)
      Tom Malinowski (NJ-7)
      Donald Norcross (NJ-1)
      Mikie Sherrill (NJ-11)

      New Mexico

      Xochitl Torres Small (NM-2)

      New York

      Anthony Brindisi (NY-22)
      Sean Patrick Maloney (NY-18)
      Gregory Meeks (NY-5)
      Eliot L. Engel (NY-16)
      Kathleen Rice (NY-4), Leadership at-large
      Max Rose (NY-11)
      Tom Suozzi (NY-3)

      Oklahoma

      Kendra Horn (OK-5)

      Oregon

      Kurt Schrader (OR-5)

      Pennsylvania

      Brendan Boyle (PA-2)
      Madeleine Dean (PA-4)
      Chrissy Houlahan (PA-6)
      Susan Wild (PA-7)

      South Carolina

      Joe Cunningham (SC-1)

      Tennessee

      Jim Cooper (TN-5)

      Texas

      Colin Allred (TX-32)
      Joaquin Castro (TX-20)
      Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
      Veronica Escobar (TX-16)
      Vicente Gonzalez (TX-15)
      Lizzie Pannill Fletcher (TX-7)
      Marc Veasey (TX-33)

      Utah

      Ben McAdams (UT-4)

      Virginia

      Don Beyer (VA-08)
      Gerry Connolly (VA-11), Whip
      Elaine Luria (VA-2)
      Donald McEachin (VA-4)
      Abigail Spanberger (VA-7)
      Jennifer Wexton (VA-10)

      Washington

      Suzan DelBene (WA-01), Vice Chair
      Denny Heck (WA-10)
      Derek Kilmer (WA-06), Vice Chair
      Rick Larsen (WA-2)
      Kim Schrier (WA-8)
      Adam Smith (WA-9), charter member

      Wisconsin

      Ron Kind (WI-3), Chair Emeritus

      U.S. Virgin Islands

      Stacey Plaskett (VI-AL)

       

       

      Blue Dog Coalition     27 members

      REP. ANTHONY BRINDISI Co-chair
      REP. J. LUIS CORREA Co-chair
      REP. STEPHANIE MURPHY Co-chair
      REP. TOM O’HALLERAN Co-chair

      Regular Members

      REP. SANFORD BISHOP
      REP. ED CASE
      REP. JIM COOPER
      REP. JIM COSTA
      REP. CHARLIE CRIST
      REP. HENRY CUELLAR
      REP. JOE CUNNINGHAM
      REP. VICENTE GONZALEZ
      REP. JOSH GOTTHEIMER
      REP. KENDRA HORN
      REP. DANIEL LIPINSKI
      REP. BEN MCADAMS
      REP. COLLIN PETERSON
      REP. MAX ROSE
      REP. BRAD SCHNEIDER
      REP. KURT SCHRADER
      REP. DAVID SCOTT
      REP. MIKIE SHERRILL
      REP. ABIGAIL SPANBERGER
      REP. MIKE THOMPSON
      REP. XOCHITL TORRES SMALL
      REP. JEFF VAN DREW
      REP. FILEMON VELA

       

      No Labels Problem Solvers Caucus

      46 Members (31 Dems and 15 Rethugs, it was 8, 24 and 2, but the Dem number grew by 7 and the Rethugs dropped by 9 in the 2018 elections)

      Democrats

      Sanford Bishop (Ga.)
      Anthony Brindisi (N.Y.)
      Julia Brownley (Calif.)
      Salud Carbajal (Calif.)
      Tony Cardenas (Calif.)
      André Carson (Ind.)
      Jim Cooper (Tenn.)
      Jim Costa (Calif.)
      Charlie Crist (Fla.)
      Joe Cunningham (S.C.)
      Debbie Dingell (Mich.)
      Vicente González (Texas)
      Josh Gottheimer (N.J.) co-Chair
      Derek Kilmer (Wash.)
      Susie Lee (Nev.)
      Daniel Lipinski (Ill.)
      Stephanie Murphy (Fla.)
      Eleanor Norton (D.C.)
      Tom O’Halleran (Ariz.)
      Jimmy Panetta (Calif.)
      Scott Peters (Calif.)
      Collin Peterson (Minn.)
      Dean Phillips (Minn.)
      Max Rose (N.Y.)
      Bradley Schneider (Ill.)
      Kurt Schrader (Ore.)
      Darren Soto (Fla.)
      Abigail Spanberger (Va.)
      Tom Suozzi (N.Y.)
      Jeff Van Drew (N.J.)
      Peter Welch (Vt.)

      Republicans

      Earl Carter (Ga.)
      Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.)
      Mike Gallagher (Wis.)
      Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon (Puerto Rico)
      Dusty Johnson (S.D.)
      David Joyce (Ohio)
      John Katko (N.Y.)
      Peter King (N.Y.)
      Adam Kinzinger (Ill.)
      Dan Meuser (Pa.)
      Tom Reed (N.Y.) co-Chair
      Lloyd Smucker (Pa.)
      Glenn Thompson (Pa.)
      Fred Upton (Mich.)
      Steve Watkins (Kan.)

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      For Country Caucus (Bi-Partisan like Problem Solvers, and they will support Rethugs over Dems)
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      Jimmy Panetta, Calif.
      Seth Moulton, Mass.
      Chrissy Houlahan, Pa.
      Gil Cisneros, Calif.
      Jason Crow, Colo.
      Jared Golden, Maine
      Conor Lamb, Pa.
      Elaine Luria, Va.
      Max Rose, N.Y.
      Mikie Sherrill, N.J.
    • #239231
      eridani
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      Staffers resign en masse as Rep. Jeff Van Drew plans to make it official that he’s a Republican

      https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/12/16/1905976/-Staffers-resign-en-masse-as-Rep-Jeff-Van-Drew-plans-to-make-it-official-that-he-s-a-Republican

      Rep. Jeff Van Drew’s staff are resigning en masse after Van Drew, elected in 2018 as a Democrat, signaled that he’ll be switching parties this week as he prepares to vote against impeachment. Six of Van Drew’s senior aides have already resigned, with five writing in a letter that they were “deeply saddened and disappointed,” The Washington Post reports.

      ”Sadly, Congressman Van Drew’s decision to join the ranks of the Republican Party led by Donald Trump does not align with the values we brought to this job when we joined his office,” the group wrote. Another staffer, based in New Jersey, also reportedly resigned Sunday evening, telling the Philadelphia Inquirer that “Defeating Trump has and always will be the main goal for me.”

      Democrats reacted to Van Drew’s imminent defection with something of an eye roll. ”What he’s reacting to is public polling that shows he can’t get renominated,” Rep. Jerry Nadler said Sunday on ABC. “His electorate in his district is 24 percent to renominate him and 60 percent to nominate somebody else.”

      Good for Van Drew’s staff refusing to go along with his cowardice. Happily, while their former boss is abandoning his values, the staffers aren’t being abandoned. DCCC Chair Cheri Bustos tweeted that “It’s right before the holidays and these staffers just quit their jobs to stand up for their Democratic values. We’ll bring them and others who leave on with the @dccc until they land new jobs that align with their values.”

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