Anybody Else Getting Worn Down By Shelter In Place ???

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  • #297701

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    Just throwing this out there.

    I don’t mind being “essential”, nor do I mind going to work and getting totally swamped (Unemployment Insurance Processing in CA), the shit we do at the end of the day to tie everything up, now is getting done the following morning.

    And I love my mom, my sister, my nephew, and the two dogs, (Big Ben and Bianca).

    Matter of fact I’ve grown used to having the dogs in my lap for a good petting.

    But going straight to work, and then straight home, is starting to get to me.

    I miss my friends, the rest of the family, and wonder when we are let out (IF WE ARE LET OUT) what will have changed.

    A couple of friends own their own businesses and have notes of explanation on their front doors. Some of those notes have fallen to the ground.

    Yeah, I check on them. Hoping they are surviving and hopefully doing well.

    Yet nobody is there to talk to…

    These are small businesses with just a few employees… I hope they make it through.

    And I guess it’s the Not Knowing that causes the greatest angst.

    So… I’m gettin the Blues…

    Anybody else have similar feelings ???



  • #297709

    Ohio Barbarian
    • Total Posts: 12,921

    Other than the years I was flat broke most of the time, that is. I miss that more than anything. Take-out’s just not the same.

    OTOH, I’ve had the chance to read a lot and watch some good stuff on Roku apps, and my work week is real short now. I don’t miss going to work five days a week at all.

    It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

    If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

  • #297713

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    So there aren’t big changes for me except I spend more at the grocery store and go less often.

  • #297718

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    Hi willyt,

    Unemployed for three years now – this is my daily life and has been for some time now.  Like @ohiobarbarian, I do miss the ability to have breakfast out at the diner.  Other than that this is business as usual.


    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
    - John F. Kennedy

    "In a Time of Universal Deceit - Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act."
    - George Orwell

    "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
    Rather than truth as the authority."
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  • #297720

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    I need a haircut!  My local salon is closed and will probably remain so until at least April 30.

  • #297732

    • Total Posts: 1,006

    While I miss spending time playing pool at the bars, other than that I am pretty much a stay at home hermit anyway.

    I have a homebound diabetic Conservative friend who just got his SS check.

    I normally take him to get his meds and to do his grocery shopping when that check comes in.

    Sadly, he was only able to obtain half of the items he would normally purchase to get him through the month. I will be taking him out to grocery shop again mid-month.

    For my friend, for me, life has not changed much.

    Oh, I now have a mask. My sister in law has been making them for local hospitals. She ran out of elastic last night so production is on hold till the elastic arrives. Mine is Seahawks blue with a Seahawks helmet on it.

  • #297735

    • Total Posts: 78

    I am not hating lock down. The big change is not going to work, but I do not miss putting on my waiter suit at all. LOL.  I miss the money, and some of the people, but happy that dining room is shut down. I had been desperate for time to paint uninterrupted by work and other demands, and the lock down has let me get  two big pieces finished, so far.  I even sold one.

    The most frustrating thing is that I had finally got myself hooked up with a program that covers regular health, plus mental dental and vision….. and I can’t use any of it. I got to go to my first appointment that I had waited a month for, plus follow up on phone, but otherwise they are more or less shut down. I understand it, but is frustrating.

    • #297765

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      Hey Arty

      I too am working away in my studio and I just put 5 pieces in an online show!  When the show is up I will try and send a link.

      We also have been doing a lot of walking and hiking. The dog is in heaven!  I tend to be a hermit with attacks of environmental work thrown into the mix, that and my kids make up our social lives


  • #297744

    • Total Posts: 1,384

    But there is a whole difference between being retired and sheltering in place. My children who are the one enforcing my self-quarantine are mostly working at home which means I don’t get to see them. I get outside once a day – to get the mail and take the garbage cans out. IF I am lucky there is someone walking their dogs on the street and I can stop to talk to them – six feet of course.

    If it weren’t for JPR and the internet I would feel totally isolated. Keep busy reading my Kindle, doing puzzles of all kinds and cleaning the house I would not see anyone except the Meals of Wheels people and other delivery persons.

    And they are telling us that this could last at least 18 months to a year. Oh, well so far so good – I am still sane.


    • #297774

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      Looks like the actuaries called it right, that the increase in new confirmed cases will peak this week,and then the pandemic will pass into the mitigation phase.  Iran and Italy had their peak in new cases on the 31st, so the burden on their medical systems should lighten up.  Even though new cases worldwide are still increasing, the rate of increase for the last two days has been under 10%.   In fact, of the top ten countries in terms of confirmed cases, only 3 (U.S., U.K., and Turkey) are seeing cases increase more than 10%  on a daily basis.

      If this model holds, we should be out of the woods in a couple more weeks.

  • #297747

    • Total Posts: 399

    I have been caring for my elderly mother (currently age 97) for two years now, every day from 7 AM to 6PM when my brother takes over. I then go home, eat something, and flake out on the sofa. I’m 67, in decent shape and used to this routine. Miss getting out to the store. Delivery only these days.

  • #297750

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    We can’t imagine all of the luxuries we’ll have to give up.

  • #297751

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    I’ve been slammed with 12+ hour days since late Feb but not complaining both blessing and curse. I’m averaging 5-hours sleep which is not good including some panic nights with little sleep. Happy and healthy introvert but definitely miss social interaction.

    Since salons and barbers are closed for another four weeks in my state, I decided to clip my own hair since it was too long anyway. If you decide to cut your hair without a professional, I strongly encourage you to enlist some help. It will not make the outcome any better but it is nice to share the blame with someone else 🙂


  • #297752

    NV Wino
    • Total Posts: 4,647

    The houses I take care of are empty—weekend people doncha know—no social contact. Most of my work is over the the Internet or on the computer. I monitor two neighborhood water systems and pay bills electronically. I can do graphics over the Internet. I can deposit checks electronically. I pay bills electronically.

    I have 12 acres on which I live. I’m setting up photo projects and challenges that can be accomplished within my realm. And, I always have my camera with me when I’m out at all. I’ve consolidated my grocery trips—more money at one time, but fewer trips, which is probably a good thing.

    Since I’m not a terribly social critter to start with, nor do I work in a “social environment,” this hasn’t affected me in a terribly adverse manner.

    The main aggravation is no haircut. The dental work I need is minor and not urgent—just rescheduled (again) today. Picked up my repaired glasses so I no longer have to read in sunglasses. Got new tires just before the lockdown, but no place to go, so I’m saving on gas.


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  • #297758

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    This isn’t much different than my everyday life. And I’m definitely not bored. Too much to do every day. I’m never bored.

    The only thing different is I wash my hands a lot and use hand sanitizer before getting the mail or handling packages… then wash again and more sanitizer. My hands are cleaner. 😉

  • #297778

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    Let’s face it that up to now we still have hot/cold running

    water, heat and electricity. Thus no matter of our complaining

    and worry about family and friends, it could be worse. There

    is no question that Climate Change will bring us far worse

    problems, and that includes all kinds of diseases. The economic

    disasters from all of the rescues of  Wall Street, huge corporations

    and the 1% will bring about a 30-40% unemployment rate within

    a few months, which may lead to some revolts and serious anger

    at governments. Until then I will try to grow a few vegetables and

    flowers to make me feel better.

  • #297779

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    I’m discovering yet more ways to isolate myself, which suits me just fine.

  • #297780

    Bernie Boomer
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    working from home doesn’t bother me at all – but I can certainly sympathize with your position.  It sounds like you’re describing “isolation fatigue” – that uncomfortable combination of worry, frustration, anger, and melancholy that is hitting a lot of people  – who then feel guilty about it because it seems so freaking privileged to be complaining about having to stay home.

    It’s not privileged and it’s not silly or wrong or any other thing to feel like your caught in a dystopian version of Groundhog Day. Be gentle with yourself.

    Try to find something different to do every day – even it it’s parking in a different area of the parking lot or building a tower of pennies or something. Maybe – since it sounds like you’re not in contact with your friends, try writing them an open-ended letter – a daily chat. Or grab the opening paragraph from a popular book and then use a thesaurus to see how many words you can switch out (the results are usually pretty funny). Share it with someone and see if they can figure it out.

    I apologize if I’ve overstepped on the advice. Hang in there.

  • #297810

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    So in that sense, I’m in heaven.

    I am trying to make the best of matters, knowing that so many people have it so much worse, and always did.  Can you imagine being homeless when this crap hit the fan??

    But at some point, yes, people are going to riot in the streets if there is no relief from this solitary confinement.  It’s already gone on for so long.  Yes, I think personally we should leave it to the experts to figure it out, but I am just one person, and I know nobody cares what I think…

    The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

  • #297816

    a little weird
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    Like many others here I’m pretty introverted so I’m mostly ok being alone.  But there is somewhat of a difference in being alone because you choose to be vs being alone because you have to be.  And also, I find myself having anxiety attacks when I start thinking of the enormity of the pandemic.

    I’m extremely worried about my family and friends and I also get kind of sick thinking about all the trauma the medical staff are going through and how bad it will be in other places that have even poorer medical infrastructures in place.  I’m having trouble sleeping and concentrating.  Then I feel bad about having anxiety problems because – what do I have to be anxious about?  I’m safe and well and extraordinarily lucky to have a job which I can do from home and so I don’t even have the same financial stress that others are dealing with.

    Also, even though it’s abundantly evident the politicians of this country are a-holes that only care about the needs and wants of the wealthy, I really believed deep down that if shit ever really hit the fan that we would all come together and they would do what was right for the people.  That naive belief was crushed by the bungled response and corrupt “relief” bill.

    So you’re not alone in your angst/blues/funk.  I may try some of the suggestions made by @bernieboomer above and I wish you and all my fellow Radicals the best as we try to get through this.  :hugs:

  • #297817

    retired liberal
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    the regular Saturday evening dinner date with my Sweetiy of 10 years.
    I prefer not to deal with most people anyway, otherwise not much change there.
    I have FaceTime and Skype for contact with the kids.

    We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.

    If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.

    Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…

  • #297818

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    I’m actually having more contact with some of my favorite friends.  We’re all busy people, but we’ve started doing Skype hangouts, which I’ve enjoyed much more than I expected.  In a way, it makes it easier to get together – we still have to make it fit everyone’s schedules, but we eliminate some of the rigamarole like driving time.

    Honestly, I’ve wondered whether on some collectively unconscious level, we’ve engineered something to force ourselves to slow our lives down and simplify our lives, in at least some ways.

    Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

  • #297821

    Cold Mountain Trail
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  • #297904

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    Not the isolation part,because my husband and I are introverts anyway as so many here seem to be,but the terror of the virus is mounting.The sheer fear of making a wrong move—of failing to wipe something down,of failing to wash my front paws enough,failing to be careful at the grocery store bringing home bags,produce….all that is overwhelming.I’m almost living on the head of a pin. Every trip to the grocery store or to the pharmacy for needed meds make me feel as if something awful will happen.

    We have a beautiful house to be quarantined in,a wonderful rear deck  overlooking a good sized yard,and plenty to read,so the actual quarantine isn’t that bad,but the sheer terror is.I’m agoraphobic anyway.

  • #297918

    Ohio Barbarian
    • Total Posts: 12,921

    The county I work for sent out a survey asking us if we were willing to work from home and whether or not we had the high-speed internet to do it with. For at least 15 years, the union has been trying to allow some employees to work from home, but the county has always said NO!

    The management thinks they will lose control if they can’t physically observe us. It’s all about power and control, for they can work for home sometimes, but never us.

    Now, Governor Dewine’s made them scale back to skeleton crews so real social distancing can be maintained in the workplace, and there are simply not enough people available to even begin getting all the work done, so they are being forced to let some of us work from home. Hopefully, once that takes hold, they’ll never be able to go back to their 1970s management style.

    I’d love to be able to work from home most of the time.

    On a different note, I see the usual proportion of introverts to extroverts on discussion forums in this thread. I’m definitely one of the minority extroverts, and I’m a city/suburban person. The two times I actually lived in an exurban or rural area were brief–one year and three months, respectively–and I absolutely hated it. I’d go to sea again before I ever became a farmer.

    It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

    If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

  • #297951

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    When we prepared for retirement we wanted to find a nice, attractive, secluded place with quiet neighbors where we could drink a lot of coffee and tea and read a lot of books.

    We found it.  Semi-rural house on some acreage that is distant enough from the neighbors not to hear their stereos, plenty of coffee and tea, and more books available than we’ll ever read.

    Worn down?   Nope.

    Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

  • #297962

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    Little has changed for me, brother. I live out in the rural west, and have everything I need, because I am sort of a “progressive prepper”.  Within minutes I can be on federal land and can walk 1000 miles or more, without seeing another person, if I choose.  The intense, chaotic frenetic energy of capitalist activity severely irritates my consciousness, and I cannot tolerate being in or near a city or large town for more than a day without feeling a desperate need to escape the intense confused energy, the stench of pollution, the concrete and pavement, the incessant annoying noise, inability to get clean water without paying. for it, etc.

    I’m sorry that our Mother, as a last resort, has had to use widespread sickness to slow down the mass destruction, but humans were/are not on course to ever stop killing and poisoning and destroying all that sustains our lives, and stave off our own extinction, by voluntarily ceasing the destruction.  We must respect and cooperate with our Mother, and make every effort from this day forward to repair balance and harmony by focusing all our energy on nurturing our living planet.

    Our Mother, the responsible adult in the room, had to take charge of the situation; she really had no choice but to do what she saw as necessary to begin the process of saving us from ourselves, and saving what remains of other life on earth before we killed any more of it off.  The suffering of so many saddens me, and I would stop it if I could, but this pandemic was inevitable.  I knew it was coming, and was prepared for it.  It’s the weirdest thing; you can see the signs, and the patterns, and know what is going to happen, you can warn people repeatedly that it is going to happen, but it doesn’t do a damn bit of good if they can’t hear you.  Geez, look at all the screaming so many have done about inevitable climate change disaster, and then people elected the Trump, the Great Destroyer and Enemy of All Life, who deliberately does everything in his power to destroy all the natural systems that sustain life on our planet on a daily basis, and his sycophantic worshipers adore him for it.  It’s literally insane.

    We all die, sooner or later. I may die today, or tomorrow, or whenever.  I’m fine with that, ain’t shit I can do about it anyway, but I do try to avoid doing anything stupid to hasten my departure, or other folks departure, from this mortal coil. The future is always uncertain, and the end is always near. When I am happy and healthy, I am grateful for each sunrise.

    We have been warned, repeatedly, by the clear signs given us by our Mother, and specifically, and repeatedly warned, by our conscious fellow humans, in both spoken and written language, that the wanton, unfettered destruction of the natural world, which is the primary process and agenda of capitalist imperialism, would have severe consequences.

    Will we learn from our mistakes, change course, and save ourselves from ourselves?  It will take supreme, focused, coordinated, superhuman effort. History does not give cause for optimism.

    So, An Inconvenient Truth, one more time, for old times sake:

    “….the most affluent of countries, operates on a depletion economy which leaves destruction in its wake. Your people are driven by a terrible sense of deficiency. When the last tree is cut, the last fish is caught, and the last river is polluted; when to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can’t eat money.” – Alanis Obomsawin

    Life is short; so enjoy the day, it’s all we have.


    “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

    "When a society regrets economic loss more than loss of life, it doesn't need a is already sick."
    ~ Unknown

  • #297988

    Mr. Mickeys Mom
    • Total Posts: 2,975

    Mainly, because from October to December, my husband and I worked very hard to find, virtually negotiate, and close on a house for my sister to move here from Florida. We went through all manner of shit from mid December to late February to bring her fully into settling here, including medical follow ups. So, I do my normal stuff at home, and then can visit her at her new digs that is reached by a ride within two neighborhoods. If I didn’t have this closeness in family, plus keep in touch with friends and neighbors like I did, I might be depressed. Instead, I find that I’m returning to a creative streak around kitchen to gardening (hopefully sooner than later) in SW PA. Meanwhile, I can continue my anti-fracking advocacy from home. I’m lucky that I have access to all of this… I don’t forget for ONE MINUTE that others are not in the same boat.

    Now, the next quest… can I participate in a political revolution from home? At some point, I cannot. I await what the next challenge is on behalf of 99% of us.

    Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

  • #298022

    • Total Posts: 163

    Missing my play sessions with my 6 year old twin grandchildren (1girl, 1 boy).

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