AP source: Second US official in Kyiv heard Trump call

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    WASHINGTON (AP) — A second U.S. Embassy staffer in Kyiv overheard a cellphone call between President Donald Trump and his ambassador to the European Union discussing a need for Ukrainian officials to pursue “investigations,” The Associated Press has learned.

    The July 26 call between Trump and Gordon Sondland was first described during testimony Wednesday by William Taylor, the acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. Taylor said one of his staffers overhead the call while Sondland was in a Kyiv restaurant the day after Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that triggered the House impeachment inquiry.

    The second diplomatic staffer also at the table was Suriya Jayanti, a foreign service officer based in Kyiv. A person briefed on what Jayanti overheard spoke to AP on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter currently under investigation.

    The accounts of the two embassy staffers could tie Trump closer to alleged efforts to hold up military aid to Ukraine in exchange for investigations into political rival Joe Biden and his son Hunter’s business dealings. In defending Trump on Wednesday, Republicans repeatedly highlighted that Taylor never directly heard the president direct anyone to demand that the Ukrainians open the probe.

    https://apnews.com/6d318542e50b45dc9e1d4d829ad36c96

    It will really get interesting if one of these officials video recorded the call on their cellphone.

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    That fool Trump needs to take a lesson from Hillary Clinton and if you’re gonna use a cell, make it one of a dozen Blackberries.  You know, confuse the eavesdroppers!

  • #224054

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    Trump needs to learn how to use a cellphone first.

    He’s using the Reagan defense, “I don’t recall”, regarding the 2nd call.  It would be nice if the call was recorded, so it could refresh his memory, if he doesn’t have dementia, of course.

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      Yeah, no kidding.

      And “I don’t recall” is every liars first defense. Second is “I mis-spoke” – a favorite of our dear hillary.

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    Sounds like hearsay on hearsay. What he does summit phone calls on speaker phone? Video of the call in the crypt or whatever you call the TS crypto room? Yeah, sure why not!

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      Watch the impeachment hearings, and you will get the answers to your questions.

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      Frankly, i’m not going to waste my time listening to the hearings. But I did read an article on this question which interested me more than the alleged substantive content.

      Washington (CNN)US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland’s cell phone call to President Donald Trump from a restaurant in Ukraine this summer appears to be a shocking security breach that raises significant counterintelligence concerns, according to several former officials, who told CNN there is a high probability that intelligence agencies from numerous foreign countries, including Russia, were listening in on the conversation.

      “If true, the cell phone call between Ambassador Sondland and President Trump is an egregious violation of traditional counterintelligence practices that all national security officials — to include political appointee ambassadors such as Sondland — are repeatedly made aware of,” according to Marc Polymeropoulos, a former CIA officer who oversaw operations in Europe and Russia before retiring this summer. “I cannot remember in my career any time where an ambassador in a high counterintelligence environment like Kiev would have such an unsecure conversation with a sitting president. This just should not happen,” he said.

      https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/14/politics/bill-taylor-gordon-sondland-call-trump-security-concerns/index.html

      The article says no one will confirm whether Sondland’s cell phone was encrypted or not.

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