Do the Trump supporters YOU know act like this?
April 1, 2020 at 1:50 AM - Views: 172 #295804
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I know a few…. AND YES THEY DO!!!! Of course, their crappy bosses are requiring them to work… so they’ve got to put a happy face on it.
According to reports, some Trump supporters around the country are ignoring pandemic protocols because they want to "trigger" the liberals. These people are putting their lives and the lives of others in danger just because they want to make those on the Left squirm a bit. We've seen what happens when people try to make light of the situation, and nearly all of them already regret it.
Posted by The Ring of Fire on Tuesday, March 31, 2020
April 1, 2020 at 1:57 AM #295805
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licking doorknobs to own the libs
April 1, 2020 at 3:14 AM #295824
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Interior design lessons from the coronavirus
March 30, 2020
The virus seems to survive longest on smooth surfaces like plastics (72 hours) and stainless steel (48 hours) and a shorter time on paper, cardboard or clothing (24 hours.) The biggest surprise was the performance of copper; the virus was gone in four hours.
When influenzas, bacteria like E. coli, superbugs like MRSA, or even coronaviruses land on most hard surfaces, they can live for up to four to five days. But when they land on copper, and copper alloys like brass, they die within minutes. “We’ve seen viruses just blow apart,” says Bill Keevil, professor of environmental healthcare at the University of Southampton. “They land on copper and it just degrades them.”
Buildings used to have brass door hardware, and even brass push-plates on doors. In my own house I have been so mixed up that I put a stainless lockset on a brass plate, which was dumb, because copper and brass have been tested:
In 2015, researchers working on a Department of Defense grant compared infection rates at three hospitals, and found that when copper alloys were used in three hospitals, it reduced infection rates by 58%. A similar study was done in 2016 inside a pediatric intensive care unit, which charted a similarly impressive reduction in infection rate.
"Cake or death?"
April 1, 2020 at 3:42 AM #295841
My trace minerals supplement has copper and zinc.
Maybe we’ll eventually find out if supplements like them, and Vitamin C, showed a correlation between usage and better outcomes for those infected by this virus. Not that correlation proves causation of course, as people who take supplements could have other characteristics, as a group, that could make a difference.
Off the top of my head, maybe they eat less sugar, or can afford better food.
I also take selenium and magnesium, with my calcium generally coming from cheese. Vitamin K2 Mk4 to help put the calcium where we do want it to go, and not where we don’t.
April 1, 2020 at 4:18 AM #295855
Bronze is copper and tin according to Wikipedia, and I recently read that the armed people of the Bronze age would shave a bit of their sword off so as to treat the outside of their wounds, and prevent infection. So maybe it’s antibacterial as well?
April 1, 2020 at 11:32 AM #296060
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though likely with less effectiveness than just plain copper. The test was only for surfaces, so I don’t know what would be the effect of supplementary metals taken internally. Maybe someone is studying that, too.
Here’s the surfaces study, and their graphic:
"Cake or death?"
April 1, 2020 at 12:37 PM #296073
The Red MenaceMember@twilightsporkle
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Copper is a pretty toxic metal – not as bad as heavy metals or chromium, but you still don’t want to end up eating it. It poisons bacteria and damages viruses (though as bacteria are actually alive, it has a greater impact on them.)
April 1, 2020 at 2:02 AM #295806
April 1, 2020 at 2:07 AM #295808
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One problem has been the incessant criticism of their beloved leader for every single and trivial thing. This has lead to a collective decision of the rethugs to ignore any warnings put out by the MSM. By blaming Trump so thoroughly for the virus epidemic, MSM has diluted the core message of its deadliness.
April 1, 2020 at 2:28 AM #295812
April 1, 2020 at 3:10 AM #295823
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My brother and a few college friends are pro-Trump, but they generally only act out when responding to anti-Trump invective.
My read on most pro-Trumpers (aside from the fringe, who are demonstrably unstable) – and most anti-Trumpers, for that matter – is that they are playing their partisan role: aggressively denouncing, denigrating, and insulting the Other Side is virtue-signalling to allies. They are locked into an emotional Us-Vs-Them response, and are rarely inclined to objective analysis of their own or their opponents’ positions.
Because of this emotional cage they’re in, it’s just not possible to convince them that Trump is not a competent President – or that he’s not a Putin plant. Both beliefs are unsupported by evidence, but they’ll cling to them because it makes them feel better.
I’ve tried to limit the number of empty insults I sling around these days (for example, I replaced “is a bumbling fool” with “is not a competent President,” because the former is an opinion and the latter is demonstrable). Living in a world where one side is always good and right, and the other side is always wrong and evil, is to eschew critical thinking.
His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
more deadly than his right had been.
April 1, 2020 at 3:56 AM #295847
Because that’s who I’m mostly hearing about as flaunting this new social norm.
In today’s America a lot of parents with college age kids are in their 60s or older, and they are freaked out by how blase their children can be at going out and mingling and then coming back home to sleep and eat.
The Democratic party better be doubly sure to echo the Sanders movement messaging when it comes to addressing the younger voters. They’ll need to hear an appeal to their emotions, and not just be getting their knees pinged by the Democratic leadership who’ll expect them to jerk in response.
No empathy Biden could be the mother of all disasters for the party at the polls. If Trump goes rogue from his handlers and demands that the House and Senate raise Social Security benefits, then all bets could be off. Pelosi better smarten up and take a chapter from Roman history here, because at times like these it’s populists like Caesar was that win the day. And like Trump he was born a patrician.
The Populares (/ˌpɒpjʊˈlɛəriːz, -jə-, -ˈleɪriːz/; Latin for “favoring the people”, singular popularis) were a political faction in the late Roman Republic who favoured the cause of the plebeians (the commoners).
The Populares emerged as a political group with the reforms of the Gracchi brothers, who were tribunes of the plebs between 133 and 121 BC. Although the Gracchi belonged to the highest Roman aristocracy, being the grandsons of Scipio Africanus, they were concerned for the urban poor, whose dire condition increased the risk of a social crisis at Rome. They tried to implement a vast social program comprising a grain dole, new colonies, and a redistribution of the Ager publicus in order to alleviate their situation. They also drafted laws to grant Roman citizenship to Italian allies, and reform the judicial system to tackle corruption. Both brothers were nevertheless murdered by their opponents, the Optimates—the conservative faction representing the interests of the landed aristocracy, who dominated the Senate. Several tribunes of the plebs later tried to pass the Gracchi’s program by using plebiscites (in order to bypass senatorial opposition), but Saturninus and Clodius Pulcher suffered the same fate as the Gracchi. Furthermore, many politicians of the late Republic postured as Populares to enhance their popularity among the plebs, notably Julius Caesar and Octavian (later Augustus), who finally enacted most of the Populares’ platform during their rule.
April 1, 2020 at 4:16 AM #295853
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“it’s populists like Caesar was that win the day”
only for a moment; Empire wound up winning that round in rather short order. And that was the end of the Republic.
April 1, 2020 at 4:24 AM #295858
Hey, spoiler alert! lol
Hopefully the Founders attention to history has set us on a path to avoid the fate of Rome, though they had a hell of run, and some argue that it never really fell, and it just has had its seat of power moved around a few times. 😉
April 1, 2020 at 12:49 PM #296075
The Red MenaceMember@twilightsporkle
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Look at the democratic party. Look at the people who support it. Do you see ANY place for young people?
We serve exactly three functions to Democrats and liberals – first, we’re fuckable bodies for the old pedophiles. Second, we’re blood donors – literally as well as figuratively. Third, we’re (supposed to be) captive votes.
Young people, according to liberals and democrats, exist simply to be exploited for the continued comfort and licentiousness of the useless eater class.
And in our binary political system, that leads young people to go to the GOP… Who also plainly don’t care about us… but at least they don’t fucking lie about it, either. It’s better to have enemies than to keep treacherous friends. And yeah there’s an element of “pissing off the libs,” because, well, that’s what people do when they get out of a toxic relationship, they wave their middle finger loud and proud at their ex – whether that ex is a person, a religion, a political ideology, etc.
April 1, 2020 at 4:10 AM #295850
April 1, 2020 at 5:11 AM #295923
April 2, 2020 at 2:01 AM #296365
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Anyone who regularly watches and believes Fox News, and who can’t perceive that Trump is an evil and dangerous person and a threat to all life on earth, has a disturbing lack of intuition, minimal perceptual ability, and a frightening degree of lack of common sense.
Just being around anyone who is that cognitively deficient is a threat to my personal safety. I felt this way about Trump long before Trump campaigned for President, from the first and only time I saw him say “You’re Fired!”, when I caught my first glimpse of him while passing by a TV in a place where I was working. If you can’t discern that Trump is a conscienceless, sociopathic narcissist, then please, stay far away from me.
Now that we are in the midst of a pandemic, I take every possible precaution to prevent being within 100 yards of Trump supporter, due to their likelihood of believing Trump when he told them just go about business as usual, and not worry about the TrumpVirus, and not take precautions serious precautions to prevent themselves from getting the TrumpVirus and then spreading it to others. I see Trump supporters as at least 10 times more likely to be TrumpVirus carriers and/or victims than the rest of the population.
My answer to the question in the OP is, I expect that Trump supporters act that way, generally speaking.
“A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington
"When a society regrets economic loss more than loss of life, it doesn't need a virus....it is already sick."
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