Barbarian at the Gates: Epistle to the House Progressive Caucus

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    • #339854
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Honored Ladies and Gentlemen and Others:

      Time is of the essence, so I will get straight to the point and say all of you have got to wake up right now and seize the golden opportunity for you to prevent disaster from befalling the American people.

      Let’s start with one of our common enemies’ opening positions. The Turtle’s(sorry, but I just can’t be polite to that SOB) Senate is insisting on a liability shield for employers against pandemic-related lawsuits stemming from their negligent treatment of their employees. Corporate America wants this really bad, and that’s a really good thing for you, and for all of us, if you just act boldly and stubbornly.

      You must insist in some sort of Universal Basic Income for the duration of the pandemic. A real paycheck protection program which Germany and other European countries implemented can be one part of that, but everyone in the bottom 90% in this country must be guaranteed an income so our overly consumer-driven economy doesn’t completely collapse. Refuse to budge no matter what kind of pressure the Republicans and the Democratic Party leadership brings to bear upon you.

      Corporate America wants its liability protection? Say that’s fine, but we will not vote for it unless UBI, plus an absolute moratorium on evictions for the duration of the emergency, is included in the next stimulus relief package. You simply must do this, progressive Democrats. That’s the bare minimum. If you don’t, then why should any of your longtime supporters continue to support you in the future when we know you will surrender to the corporate power every time? If not now, there may be no next time.

      Or, in the vernacular of my home city of Euclid, Ohio, Ain’t nobody got TIME for that! 

      Too many of us are living on the edge and facing homelessness. Don’t abandon us now.

      You can also demand other things, like aid to state and local governments so they don’t have to start laying off firefighters and paramedics and such, not to mention the bureaucrats who distribute necessary, if inadequate, welfare. Things like free medical care for any Covid-related conditions. Things like help for schools and daycare centers and hazard pay for essential workers. All of these things would immensely help all the working and middle class people in America, but failure to provide them right away won’t necessarily mean a catastrophic social and economic collapse.

      That will probably happen in less than two years without some sort of UBI and a total eviction and foreclosure moratorium right now. If you let the Republicans and the Democratic leadership get away with a liability shield for Corporate America with no UBI or eviction prevention, the next Congress of the United States may well be the last Congress of the United States.

      Don’t take that chance. Stand up for us now.


      Ohio Barbarian of and of Euclid, Ohio


      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Hi ob,

      Faith in the “Republocrats” to do anything meaningful for the 99% is misplaced at best.


      “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
      - John F. Kennedy

      "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
      - George Orwell

      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
      - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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      - Martin Luther King

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      I would rather see a set period of time, like a year (haha!) during which it is obvious UBI is the way to go, permanently, hopefully.  Anyway, I can see all kinds of pressure to announce “the end of the pandemic” prematurely.  And we cannot, IMO, trust ANYBODY’S numbers. I still think that the current testing of only people with symptoms does not give a clear picture.    And one could test negative, and get COVID on the way home.  Not sure what the answer is, but I also think politicizing everything has fucked a lot of things up, too.  On all sides.  Someone jeered that Trump thinks everything is political.  Well, he has lots of company there, sadly.  On all sides.

      I want to visit a friend in New Jersey, in September, the fares are insane, but she will be undergoing chemo and I would have to stay in the guest room for two weeks, and how and when should I get tested?  before I leave, then getting off the plane, then in a week – and what if I test positive at Newark airport?  Right back on the plane?  What a mess.

      Maybe I should just drop out of worrying and watch the trailer from The New Pope a few thousand times.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      Everything I post is just my opinion, and, honestly, I would love to be wrong.

    • #339872
      So Far From Heaven
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      Who got hounded and had the worst bullshit thrown at him and guess what???

      He was totally in the bag for a Universal Basic Income of any kind to be implemented.

      The big question was why?

      I turns out he was smart as hell. He was getting close to finishing a PhD is some obscure financial degree and he KNEW (like any smart person) that in order to make money, two things are necessary. First off you have to have money to spend. That’s where a UBI comes in. He knew (like anyone with brains) that the poorer of us would have to actually spend the fucking money. The rich would just invest or save it. Offshore or whatever. But not the lower 50 percent. They would spend it. And make profits for those providing the income that they would be spending. Absolutely perfect argument on its own. Get the top to give to the poor and the poor spend it and the top makes money off the spent income and they actually make more than the pay out in taxes.

      It was the second reason that drove the first.

      All economies rely on one HUGE fact. It’s the velocity of money that matters, not how much. When wealth is taken out of the economy, it kills the economy, so the idea is to make it easier for those with money to make more money via velocity of exchange. Only one catch here. Over fifty percent of the current American households have any real money for exchange. Thus the rich idiots are not getting anything like they could be getting if they injected a large portion of the reserves that they have stolen. And watch it flow like a river and gain size as it does so.

      Both are tailor made for each other. Inject taxed higher income to the sector of the society that will spend the money and make the shit move as fast as you can. Ask Sweden or Germany how this works. Soon a model of this idea is going to be tested on a full country scale if I’m not mistaken.

      The guy wasn’t your typical Republican, you see, he was one with a brain. Too bad the powers that be at the time were stupid and made sure he left. I had a bunch of really cool discussions with him on all kinds of shit. Learned some and taught some.

      So, Ohio, there is one huge glitch in your demand for a UBI. It makes MONETARY CAPITALIST sense to have one and thus will never pass.

    • #339891
      Ohio Barbarian
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      It’s an epistle. I’m preaching at them, but I don’t actually think they’re going to do a damned thing. I just laid out the best argument I could for why they should prove me wrong if they have any honor or backbone whatsoever, and easily could if they persuaded just a few Republicans who will support something like UBI and more “moderate” Democrats who can see the iceberg dead ahead.

      If there are any. I don’t know. We shall see. I’d love to be surprised, but I’m not actually feeling or thinking that’s going to happen.

      @thouartthat @sffh @djean111

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      and I believe you’re right.

    • #339946
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      I want to take that magic carpet ride. I was just telling my U.S. Congressman that, and he’s been there long enough to get smart, but he got dumb and in line again. He laughed at UBI and probably was insulted by my persistence.

      The trickle up theory should be short and sweet and repeated over and over again to these clerks who caucus with other more conservative clerks in the Democratic Party. They’re the ones who have a hard time with math.

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

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