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    Bern Before Reading

    I was saving some of my select remarks about  Which Hillary What Happened until closer to 9/12, when the epic memoir is released to the public.  I had hoped she would have taken a bit of the high road and be an apologist.  She had recovered from her loss, but wrote two books that would be therapeutic about her journey.

    But it appears that the baroness Clinton had not embraced all 12 steps of addiction recovery, notably Step #8:

    Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

    So either she fell off the wagon, blaming everyone for her political failures, or skipped that step.

    Cenk Ugur was on a roll on TYT last night, in a segment called “Bern after Reading” (a play of words from a Cohen Brothers movie, Burn After Reading).   It was about how the Baroness accused Bernie of impugning her character because Bernie went after her about the $200K speeches to Wall Street that she wouldn’t discuss or answer questions about.   Cenk rightfully pointed out that Bernie’s questions did not cause Drumpf into calling her “Crooked Hillary.”   It was someone else, as revealed in the YT segment below.

    I’m certain both Cenk and I will have more commentary in the coming weeks when the book is released to the general public.    But already, it’s being discounted 40%, so Clinton has decided to go on a Hamiltonesque tour in which $2500 entitles one a front row seat, copy of the signed book, and a selfie with a washed up candidate.    Her tour should truly be called Sunset Boulevard.

    (partially cross-posted from The Progressive Wing)

     

     

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    • ThouArtThat (4715 posts)
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      1. Preach It Sister Benny

      eom

      "In America Today, Power Corrupts and Money Corrupts Absolutely" - Anonymous  
      • Marym625 (24885 posts)
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        5. Just an FYI

        @benny is a woman. :)

        I thought she was a guy too.

        "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
        • Benny (49 posts)
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          7. We're all Brothers & Sisters Here!

          eom

          • Haikugal (5667 posts)
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            9. Right on!!

            :hi: Welcome, good piece thanks!

              Be the bird.....       Hey DNC! Up Yours! It's ON!! Kick against the pricks!!!
          • Enthusiast (9468 posts)
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            12. Bros are better.

            :roflmao:

            "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
            • LiberalElite (5259 posts)
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              15. Sexist. 😋

              I feel much better since I've given up hope
          • Marym625 (24885 posts)
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            16. Yes, we are!

            "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • Marym625 (24885 posts)
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      2. On The Daily Radical

      Thank you Benny. Great post!

      "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • Benny (49 posts)
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        4. Remember this speech from The People's Summit?

        A lot of people in that room were a wee bit suspicious about this speaker until he said this:

         

         

        No one but Van Jones couldn’t have made the diagnosis any clearer about What Happened.

        • Marym625 (24885 posts)
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          6. I tweeted to him during the primary

          “I think you’re feeling the Bern” and he liked the tweet. :)

          Bunch of hillbots went after me but I knew it

          "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • Babel 17 (3035 posts)
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      3. Good selection of clips

      But oh the irony of Obama sounding all anti-globalism. Who’d he end up picking to write his gold standard of a trade deal? :)

      https://www.votetulsi.com/bumper-stickers/free  
      • Enthusiast (9468 posts)
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        11. That's where Trump learned he could just lie to his hearts content.

        From Obama!

        "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • Betty Karlson (3613 posts)
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      "Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
    • Enthusiast (9468 posts)
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      10. We only have to listen to Obama's own words.

      They hate it on SV when you criticize Obama.

       

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
      • Ejbr (169 posts)
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        21. Well how can we "unify"


        if we don’t condone Obama’s tragic turn for the worse. It’s all part of the falling in line unification of the party

        Done with Corporate Dems. Done. "The time is always right do the right thing." MLK
    • Enthusiast (9468 posts)
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      13. Kicked and Recommended to the fucking Max!

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • iggy (1416 posts)
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      14. If she released it on 9/11, herself could have an excuse

      ..as to why nobody paid any attention.

      Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
      • dorkzilla (2472 posts)
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        17. If the Pope shits in the woods near a tree

        and a bear is Catholic, will anyone hear Hillary?

        or something.

        I may have become even more twisted over the past month.

        • PennLawyer (2184 posts)
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          18. Wondering what your Irish friends/relatives thought of Clinton, Inc.

          On your recent trip, or did Trumpf dominate any political conversations re the U.S.?

          And while on the topic of foreign opinion, any  observations voiced to you re Brexit, North Korea nuclear weaponizing,  future of the EU, etc.?  I know it’s off-topic, but I’m always interested in personal accounts of opinions voiced to traveling Americans.

          • dorkzilla (2472 posts)
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            19. They're not enamored of her, let's just say that

            They started to get wind of who she was when she claimed to have a significant role in the Peace Accords during the ’08 primary. When I was over last September I had my Bernie tote bag with me and so many people stopped me to chat about how they were disappointed he wasn’t the nominee, not only because they liked his politics but because they disliked and distrusted Hillary. They hated Trump more but like the rest of us, they were dismayed at our having to chose between THOSE two.

            ETA the Irish have an especial aversion to braggarts and liars and people who take credit for other people’s work, so she just rubs them the wrong way.

            As for Brexit, most of the talk was about rumors of this corporation and that pulling up stakes in the UK and headquartering in Ireland. In Dublin there is much evidence of a corporate building boom and for the first time since the Celtic Tiger was in full flush, all the recent uni grads in my extended family had received multiple offers for jobs in their chosen fields and not one required them to leave Ireland. While they’re chuffed at the prospect of jobs and better opportunities, they are concerned for their UK neighbors. Ireland has a strong bond with modern England especially (many Irish live there, we all have cousins who were born and raised there) and their natural empathy means they’re inclined to lament rather than rejoice at their misfortune.

            There is less talk of the future of the EU now than one year ago, but nearly everyone had something to say of the ineffectiveness and clumsy “leadership” of May and her team in negotiating the details with Brussels. A few went so far as to call the whole exercise “theatre” and claiming that the leave decisions will at some point soon be declared invalid, as even the most hardline leaver didn’t vote to lose jobs, crash the economy etc etc.

            The Euro is up against the Pound and although that means better purchasing power in the UK, it also means their largest source of tourists are dwindling.

            Herr Drumpf certainly dominated the conversation, not just with me but as I sat there in pubs quietly listening to people’s conversations, it dominated everyone’s. He’s mocked and feared, as now are Americans in general for voting for him. And NK was indeed discussed but the focus there again was on Trump for escalating tensions. It’s a most embarrassing time to be an American abroad and if not for my tendency to naturally lapse into a brogue that easily passes as native I may be a little more emotionally scarred by my visit than I am for just having to return here.

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              20. Many thanks for the detailed reply – all most interesting!

              My oldest did her undergrad degree at University College Dublin – econ major w/honors – back in the late 70s-early 80s.  No poncey foreign student exchange crap – she enrolled directly in UCD and her tuition was around $600 US per term.  She got a really outstanding education, which included uni-sponsored student trips to London (Bank of England/Threadneedle Street), Paris (can’t recall the academic  purpose of that trip, but know good food & wine was had by all) & to observe the European Parliament in Strasbourg. Excellent maths instruction – a subject she’d struggled with in high school.

              She was already a horsewoman, and the University had a stable of Irish jumpers available for students.  The school even had an ocean-going sailboat for a student sailing club.  She played on the women’s football (soccer) team and her big accomplishment was setting up a woman’s football tournament with Ireland’s other  University College branches – PLUS 2 women’s teams from Ulster/Belfast schools.  This was during the period of the hunger strikes, so was considered a major deal.  She got Bank of Ireland to contribute a traveling trophy, and Guiness provided all the beer everyone could drink.   Play noticeably slowed down on the second day of the tournament, following much partying the night before.  Wonder whatever happened to that trophy!  She used to bring canned cranberry sauce w/ her every fall so she could put on a complete American Thanksgiving dinner for her friends.

              I took a summer CLE class in Law of the European Union in Dublin, which introduced me to the outstanding Irish theatres, and until the crash of 2008 (which wiped out my retirement savings), used to manage a week in Dublin every fall to go to plays at the Abbey, Peacock & Gate Theatres – also 2 trips to Northern Ireland.  At one point, I wangled an invitation to an emergency closed session of the IrishSenate/Seanad Éireann, and was very excited and honored to be introduced to the leaders of its respective parties, including David Norris.  Lots of great memories – forgive me for rambling on – but gosh, I had such great times there.

              • dorkzilla (2472 posts)
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                22. Ireland is a magical place

                I’d love to sit and have a few beers with you one night to hear all these stories in detail!

                My only consolation for having to leave is the knowledge that I will be back in 6 months, albeit briefly, and I’m already planning for next summer’s trip.

    • canoeist52 (235 posts)
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      23. Look who found his radical truth-telling voice…just in time…

      …when it no longer matters.
      Better late than never, I guess.

    • Billsmile (49 posts)
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      24. It Was Her Turn

      From what I’ve read so far it seems as if she was the one who expected to get the pony.

      • Benny (49 posts)
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        25. I Want Bernie's Pony

        Whatever that was.

        Gracie Pony

         

         

        • Billsmile (49 posts)
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          26. Hillary's Pony

          Think Hillary had a problem-free primary & an easy peasy general election in mind for her glass ceiling shattering “pony” to jump through. Unfortunately for her the elderly Socialist Jewish Senator from the small state of Vermont’s message seemed to resonate with the public & they, Bernie & Bros apparently teamed up fratboy style to rob Clinton of her pony.

          • ronRonnie (582 posts)
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            27. I am proud…

            To have done my part in denying that asshole her pony.  Hillary’s level of entitlement is off the charts.  I am so very pleased knowing she will NEVER get her lifelong wish of being president.   All that glass ceiling shit drenched in haughty arrogance flushed down the drain where it belongs.   Her whiny little book is just her crying out like a spoiled child denied their toy.  So fun to watch and oh so very satisfying.