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    • #302517
      ozoneman
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      Senator Bernie Sanders endorsed Joseph R. Biden Jr. as the Democratic nominee for president on Monday, adding the weight of his left-wing support to Mr. Biden’s candidacy and taking a major step toward bringing unity to the party’s effort to unseat President Trump in November.

      In throwing his weight behind his former rival, Mr. Sanders is sending a striking and unmistakable signal that his supporters — who are known for their intense loyalty — should do so as well.

      The two men appeared via live stream on split screens, talking to each other. “We need you in the White House,” Mr. Sanders said to Mr. Biden. “And I will do all that I can to make that happen.”

      Mr. Biden said: “I’m going to need you. Not just to win the campaign, but to govern.”

      Mr. Sanders hinted his intentions in a Twitter post shortly before the appearance.

       

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/us/politics/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-endorsement.html

       

      It was expected, and I will be voting Green again.

    • #302518
      mmonk
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      But I am me.

      Fear not the path of Truth for the lack of People walking on it. - RFK

    • #302519
      HassleCat
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      The way this primary ended with a whimper makes it difficult to accept the result. I can’t vote for Joe unless he shows some actual enthusiasm for progressive issues. His overtures so far have been weak, suggesting he’s angling to do the absolute minimum to attract swing voters caught between him and not voting. Lowering the Medicare age by five years and forgiving a few student loans doesn’t exactly make my heart go pitter-patter.

    • #302521
      FedUp
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      Bernie can do whatever he wants. Biden’s record is terrible. I can’t and won’t vote for that. My conscience won’t let me.

      • #302570
        Carolina
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        Loved Bernie, but his failure to stand unyieldingly  for his beliefs & his life’s work and against the duopoly & fraud of this primary season is beyond maddening. He knows Joe is a billionaire-owned liar whose every career move/vote is not only the antithesis of everything Bernie, but even worse, aligns with everything Trump! And he has to know that he was cheated and that Biden is impaired on every level. I would respect him more, if he simply said nothing and endorsed no one, especially so early. Plus, he will be blamed for Biden’s loss, regardless.

        Remember, too, Bernie and his family will be fine with Biden: pension, health care, housing, education for his grandchildren, etc. However, by following Bernie’s lead and ceding to Biden, WE WILL NOT!

        Biden, the Dims, and even Bernie need to understand that progressives will not yield to liars, cheaters, frauds and neoliberalism ANY MORE. Fuck blue no matter who and yes, fuck Bernie’s caving! We need to vote for the Greens — a third party that is already on many state ballets and one that we can build by shear numbers and help shape for the future. The Dims have shown their utter and complete hatred of us; and by endorsing Biden so early, Bernie has made a mockery of himself, of us and of the movement. They need to lose.

         

    • #302524
      beeninthewoods
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      I won’t do it. I am loyal to the policies that Berne supports. Not to Bernie himself. Biden is a horrible candidate.

    • #302525
      elias39
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      and throw Bernie under the ‘you suck’ bus with AOC.

      ….

      • #302536
        ThouArtThat
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        @elias39

        Hi elais,

        Just like @ohiobarbarian, I can no longer support Bernie for betrayal of his loyal base – now twice in a row.

        I contributed to Bernie through two campaign cycles – 2016 and 2020 – and now wish the money was still in my pocket.

        The honorable action for Bernie was to not endorse anyone for president.  For that he could be respected.

        As for now, I refuse to let people like you, @n2doc and others voter shame me for sticking to my principles.

        Save your voter shaming for someone else.

        TAT

        "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
        - John F. Kennedy

        "In a Time of Universal Deceit - Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act."
        - George Orwell

        "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
        Rather than truth as the authority."
        - Gerald Massey

        "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
        - Jiddu Krishnamurti

    • #302527
      Ohio Barbarian
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      I do not respect this particular decision of Bernie’s at all. He will go down in history favorably for shifting the Overton Window to the left and making things like health care as a right and a peaceful foreign policy thinkable again, and nothing that happens from here on will take that away from him.

      Now, though, he’s acting as a sheepdog trying to herd progressives back into voting for the Vichy Democrat Party, which will do nothing to advance our interests. There is no excuse for that, and I condemn him for it.

      I’m done with Bernie as far as this election goes.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

    • #302530
      NoMoDINOs
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      I love Bernie and I understand there are things behind the scenes that are probably going on, but I just can’t vote for Biden.

      He is a classic politician, that will smile and say things to make you think he is on your side, then he votes and the truth comes out.

      I want to believe Bernie is doing this in order to have any voice moving forward in the Senate and I get it.

      That doesn’t mean I have to support that POS Joe Biden or any other scumbag the DNC nominates.

      • #302541
        Mr. Mickeys Mom
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        Welcome to the conversation…. I am currently suffering through a Facebook livestream (replay) of Biden and Sanders talking and complimenting each other, Interestingly, Biden is not as tongue tied in this livestream.

        Are you or I should ask, anyone else glimpsing this on FB? It just finished less than an hour ago.

        Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

      • #302561
        ProgRockinProg
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        “I want to believe Bernie is doing this in order to have any voice moving forward in the Senate and I get it.  That doesn’t mean I have to support that POS Joe Biden or any other scumbag the DNC nominates.”

        Those two lines contradict each other.  Yes….yes it does mean you have to, if not support philosophically, support with your vote, Biden and Democrats. We must walk and chew gum at the same time.  Just like last time, Sanders got Hillary to alter her platform left, and would have, if she hadn’t blown it, worked to hold her feet to the fire to implement those priorities. And the same this time. If you want Sanders to be as effective as he can, we need a Democratic House and Senate.

        Did I desperately want America to seize the opportunity to move two, or three, steps forward now instead?   Of course.  But its way too dangerous now to be ruled by emotion and vindictiveness, and risk yet another 2 more steps back.  I know, twice in a row, we’ve had our balls kicked in. This one hurts even more with that early lead. But look how much damage Trump has done in only 3+ years.  He could totally transform the country in another 4+ years into a full fledged fascist regime. Where progressive causes would be not only set back decades, but any that we have already won will be wiped out.  Net Neutrality will be targeted and sites like JPR will be shut down.  Already they can slow down data bandwidth to make it harder to log onto anti-corporate sites. JPR is the slowest political discussion site I have found, when it comes to loading pages. I wonder if that is outside machinations or some technical fault of the way this site is set up. Seems suspicious, but that’s for another thread.

        Right now, you either hold your nose and vote for progressive paralysis for at least 4 more years, or  go all in on a future actual violent revolution, hoping Trump wins….. and in 4 or 8 or 10 or whenever critical  mass happens and they are jailing everyone and enacting curfews, and  imprisoning opposition leaders, and banning the free press, you will “seize the day”. But also think how long it would take Americans, enough of them, fed from the trough of reality TV, like…..The Apprentice for instance…..and corporate MSM no doubt cautioning against “radicalism”  (like M4A) to actually physically rise up off the couch and take to the streets?  Is that what you are counting on?

        Or, we take a breath, swallow our sadness and disappointment, and do the prudent thing here. We need to live to fight another day. Not with Sanders again, but whatever glossing over issues, and even downright damage Biden might do as President, he will at least keep the door open for an eventual heir apparent, (AOC?).  At least the Dems allowed a candidate like Sanders to run.  To get his message out.  If folks don’t hold their noses and vote Biden, any future opportunity to even work to help a progressive candidate may be lost. For a very very long time.  IMO.  Do you really want to sit back and watch Trump and McConnell finish dismantling the rest of the countries institutions of law and freedom of the press. 4+ more years until Jared or Miller, is installed to replace Trump?  And after a lot of suffering, then go through another violent revolution? Be careful what you wish for. The fog of war is not always kind to your side when it all clears up. When the dust settles it won’t automatically be a socialist paradise. In fact there is a good chance we lose that revolution, as they have a hell of a lot of guns.

         

        • #302590
          Ohio Barbarian
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          @progrockinprog Biden offers no hope for progressive goals. None. Not that he’s going to win anyway, but Trump is actually the lesser evil here for two reasons.

          First, he is term-limited, and only has four years to do more damage. Why should I give the Vichy Democrat Party(VDP) a chance to do eight years of damage? As for Trump declaring himself President-for-Life or something, that’s just fearmongering. If he tries that, I will cheer on the inevitable military coup and probable revolution.

          Second, Trump has kept us out of any new wars, so there is hope that he will continue to do so in a second term. With Biden, we know that he will get us into new wars just like Clinton and Obama did, or worse, for Joe Biden has never met a new war he didn’t like and has the record to prove it. Nothing you can respond with outweighs that on my political scales.

          It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

          If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

          • #302599
            RufusTFirefly
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            … should Biden be elected and continue to follow corporate and fossil-fuel-friendly neoliberal policies (as I’m all but certain he would), I can almost guarantee that “sensible woodchuck” Democrats will be urging us to pull our punches and “give him a chance” as the country continues its death spiral. I was briefly hoodwinked by the symbolism of Obama, but it literally took me a matter of days to realize what a cynical phony he was. And when I wasn’t shy about pointing this out, people tried to shame me into silence.

          • #303567
            ProgRockinProg
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            @Ohio Barbarian

            I respect your opinion.  And agree with most of it.  Biden will not push the needle forward for progressive goals.

            I would counter that Biden is the lesser for these reasons,

            Term limits are not that relevant here.  As I really believe that Biden will be Reagan 2.0 (in his last term) My dad had dementia.  I know the signs. In two or three years, if he wins, it will become even more obvious.  Heck Republicans might just use article 25 before we do!  Either way, there’s no way Biden will even be able to run for a second term. IMO there will be another primary in 2024 anyways.  The trick will be to shovel him into a win by hiding him from public view as much as possible until then.

            I think a mentally slowed President Biden will be vulnerable to influence.  But that will be from the left and the right. I also think that Sanders, and to an extent Warren, by running, highlighted progressive values more than last time.  It has pushed Biden to the left on his stance on including a public option for instance. (Which Obama should have never relented on).  As I said, one step forward, after two steps backwards, is better than two more steps backwards.

            On your second point, there is no garantee that just because Trump did not start a war in his first term (I guess it ain’t over yet) he won’t in his second. Hell, he almost started one with Iran just recently!  In fact I would be more frightened with a fickle rash emotion-based Trump in regards to starting a foreign war than Biden, who would have pressure from the left base of his own party not to. I don’t see a lot of difference in appetites for war profiteering for either party. You don’t really think that Trump is some anti war pacifist, do you?  Or that he wouldn’t start one on a dime if he thought he could gain something politically or financially or just to wag the dog, or even just to have a photo op wearing a military uniform?

            I also understand the concept of frogs in a slowly heated pot.  Which is how Trump and those around him, is normalizing a slow devolution into fascism.  I also understand the danger of frogs in a pot heated just enough for warm fuzzy comfort (Uncle Joe) where nothing gets done, and no one gets upset, because there is nothing to get upset about.  Inaction, is not news for the MSM.  And meanwhile the corporate class monopolizes, consolidates, merges into fewer but more powerful lobby groups while no one is looking.  I get it.

            I think America missed out, not once, but twice, on a once in a lifetime opportunity to have a truly left of center administration, who made decisions based on average persons needs rather than cow-towing to the corporate class. To just bring politics back to the center (in any other western democracy) from the center/right of most D admins, would have been a couple of steps forward. And of course to push the dialogue forward on M4A and creating a more egalitarian society. Give the 1% the ultimatum to start contributing more. Paying taxes and paying a higher wage.

            Believe me I am bitterly disappointed….again.  And its painful to have to only have yet another bought-and-sold establishment caterer in charge to choose from with Democrats. And I understand just how hard it is to make changes from within. But I see a sliver of progress in the last 4 years. There is a more organized, and respected, progressive wing of the D party now. AOC, the squad, and Warren, despite her being manipulated by the DNC, and falling for the Bernie Bro myth, have a greater voice, at least if you count air time minutes. Others like Katie Porter are rising. Each new crop of lefties, gains courage and numbers from their predecessors.  I don’t think we can ever thank Bernie enough for never letting these values die through decades.

            I guess I just literally fear for the world, not just the US, if we allow the Mad King another four years.  I’d almost guarantee some new war in Trump’s second term. And he’d be free to bribe any foreign leader with impunity.  And they’d do whatever he wanted because they’d have witnessed how the GOP senate sanctions it, so they’d know he’d go through with whatever threats he made.

            There has to be a tipping point between how long do you allow the frogs to sit and do nothing in luke warm water, as opposed to cranking the heat and stewing the flesh off their bones. I just think, IMO, that unfortunately we (ex-Sanders supporters) must wallow in tepid water for awhile longer.  That we must accept that it will be a longer road now. And without Sanders who was a powerful voice. Because the alternative is an even longer, more violent, road.

            I think Sarandon was right. That Trump winning would actually help progressive causes because he would at least disrupt the status quo, giving us an opening. That opening happened.   I believe the disruption was good in a way. On a national scale it separated the racists, and exposed the hypocrisy of the evangelicals on the right. It separated the progressives from the corporatists on the left.  But that disruption is done. We don’t need more of it at this point. Stomping ones feet about having to wait longer for ice cream isn’t going to get it any sooner. And I think, IMO, it will take even longer that way. Like a kid crying about one of the scoops of ice cream falling off their cone, and so upset he cries while the only other scoop melts to nothing.

        • #302595
          djean111
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          You can only speak for yourself, and cannot tell anyone else what to do.  Not that kind of board.

          I will not vote for Biden – or any replacement.  Four years vs eight years.  Biden is against every one of the issues I agreed with Bernie on.  Anything he says differently now is just pandering lies, and Hillary would have just sneered at progressives if she was elected.  The platform means nothing to the Democratic Party.

          So no, no support for Biden.  Millennial grandson and friends – same stance.  They know what Biden did, and know Biden holds them in contempt.  So – not happening.

        • #303330
          Babel 17
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          @ProgRockinProg

          She had brown people killed because it advanced her ambitions.

          Biden was on board with that, same as he was with Cheney’s plan to kill brown people so as to advance his agenda.

        • #303579
          Maedhros
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          You posted:

          I think a mentally slowed President Biden will be vulnerable to influence.  But that will be from the left and the right.

          While I appreciate your unbridled and reckless optimism here, NO!

          President Biden will not be influenced from the left – the DNC will be sure to see to that.  A Biden Administration will be filled with the same kind of Wall Street moles as Obama’s.  He will be fed a constant stream of AUSTERITY, AUSTERITY, AUSTERITY from every source that is permitted to be heard by him – especially since the recent multi-trillion-dollar corporate bailout guarantees that the austerity narrative will dominate our lives until the sun explodes.

           

          His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
          but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
          and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
          more deadly than his right had been.

    • #302531
      Earthartist
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      I agree Ohio, It was bad enough that he never mentioned the cheating then walked away, I could live with that but endorsing this war thug, racist, sexist

      thug. Owned by the credit card industry and off shore bankers, wants to cut SS and no M4A. No just no.  I never got involved with is campaign this time because I feared he would do the same thing he did with clinton and he did. I supported him and gave a little money.  I will no longer have anything to do with him, his movement that goes on with out him yes but I am done with Sanders. I still think he is a good person but not leadership material.

       

      Earthartist

    • #302532
      ThouArtThat
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      nt

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
      - John F. Kennedy

      "In a Time of Universal Deceit - Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act."
      - George Orwell

      "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
      Rather than truth as the authority."
      - Gerald Massey

      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
      - Jiddu Krishnamurti

      • #302543
        Bearian
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        Did they tell Bernie to “Swallow it”, “No fundamental changes”, or was it “Give me a Break”

        • #302557
          ThouArtThat
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          @bearian

          Hi bearian,

          Yep – a sad and ignoble end to a promising campaign.

          As well, it is reflective of a sad and ignoble period in American history.

          As I have said before – America is Dead – to this citizen and voter.

          Enough is enough.

          TAT

          "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
          - John F. Kennedy

          "In a Time of Universal Deceit - Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act."
          - George Orwell

          "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
          Rather than truth as the authority."
          - Gerald Massey

          "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
          - Jiddu Krishnamurti

    • #302533
      Bearian
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      I can’t think of one! Proudly Voting Green again

    • #302535
      Maedhros
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      But, then again, dishonesty is the meat-and-potatoes of politics.

      This is Bernie going along to get along.  As others have posted, he needs to do this to avoid getting frozen out in the Senate.  Personally, I think it’s a bad move – he’s 78 years old, his political career is winding down, and the Democrats will still hate him.

      You should have gone out fighting, Bernie.

      His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
      but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
      and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
      more deadly than his right had been.

    • #302538
      Bearian
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      I’m starting to want my donations back.

    • #302542
      Bernice Ta
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      Sorry, Bernie. I guess you felt you had to do it, but the revolution is dead. It was nice for a moment, but twenty years after having one election stolen out from under us by the Supreme Court, a virus took this one. That and massive fraud. Wrap it up, it’s done.

    • #302549
      leftcoast mountains
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      Done with Bernie.

      #DestroyDems

    • #302550
      MikeW285
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      Didn’t vote for Shrillary (after Bernie endorsed her) in 2016, and shan’t vote for Biden in 2020, either.

    • #302552
      salemcourt
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      Disappointed that he supported the greater of the two evils again!  Sadly, he has lost some of my respect.  I had contributed to his campaign several times in 2016 and in 2020.  I am not sure how progressive youth are going to view him now.

    • #302553
      closeupready
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      End of story.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

      • #302717
        Ohio Barbarian
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        @closeupready I do hope SV lurkers see your new avatar. It will raise their blood pressure.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

        • #302735
          closeupready
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          her spirit.  And I’m thinking she would be disappointed in Bernie, especially after all the crap she had to put up with over the last few years.

          And despite my disappointment, I too will always heart Bernie.

          But I’m channeling Susan Sarandon right now.  lol

          The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #302555
      jerry611
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      This party lost the last election because they voted in a primary based on perceived electability.

      They’ve made the same exact mistake again. And they will lose again.

      • #302572
        alcina
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        @jerry611

        More like an inconsequential risk. Regardless of which party is ultimately in nominal control, not a single member of congress — not repub nor dem — has suffered or will suffer any tangible negative consequences. And given the average age of congress, they’ll live out their lives in wealth and comfort and die with smiles on their faces long before another generation is able to force any significant improvement for the majority of society.

        "I believe man suffers from an appalling ignorance of his own nature." -William Golding, Lord of the Flies

    • #302560
      alcina
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      I unsubscribed from his emails so I didn’t get to see the convoluted justification for this but then, meh. It’s not like any explanation would make a difference, short of “they put a literal gun to my head.” Well, that’s 3 more votes (me, my partner, and my sister) for Howie Hawkins.

      "I believe man suffers from an appalling ignorance of his own nature." -William Golding, Lord of the Flies

    • #302565
      NV Wino
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      And so do I, which is not voting for Biden.

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

    • #302568
      PADemD
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      Bernie has fulfilled his contractual obligations to the DNC by not denigrating any candidate who may eventually be the nominee and fully supporting the eventual winner.

      However, Joe Biden is Bernie’s friend, not mine; and, since I am not a cultist, I refuse to support in any way or vote for Joe Biden.

    • #302577
      Red Cloud
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      Pam2
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      ..from me.

       

    • #302583
      RufusTFirefly
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      … I’m not going to follow his lead either.

      Look, I understand that politics involve compromise, but I also know my limits.

      I cannot in good conscience support a senile, lying, warmonger, corporate suckup, and serial sexual harasser, whose policy vision bears almost no resemblance whatsoever to my own.

      About the only positive thing I can say about Biden is that he’s not Trump. But then, neither am I, and I’m not fit to president either.

       

    • #302594
      rudycantfail
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      Are you ready for a revolution my fucking ass

    • #302596
      GZeusH
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      And a “friend” of Joe Biden is no friend of mine.

    • #302600
      djean111
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      I am not obligated to vote for Biden, and I will not, I can not.

    • #302602
      MissDeeds
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    • #302608
      JonLP
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      I’m not voting for Biden because of the bankruptcy bill, he was wrong on the Iraq War every step of the way, he has a 40 year record of wanting to cut social security.

      The biggest reason at this point I won’t vote for Joe Biden is because of Tara Reid. I wasn’t against Kavanaugh because he was a conservative. I will not compromise my values on this. I’d rather be a non-voter than vote for these creeps.

    • #302611
      JonLP
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      Not like they are going to ever apologize.

    • #302640
      gordyfl
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      Didn’t Bernie once say “If I ever tell you how to vote, don’t listen to me”?

    • #302721
      Utopian Leftist
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      It will not be enough. It wasn’t enough for $hitlary and at least she had a vagina going for her. Biden is Her without a vagina. Like, what’s the point?

      On the bright side, if even half of the true progressives who are actually still voting, voted for the Green Party, it would have ten percent of the vote and the Vichy Dems would have a big slap in their smarmy faces.

      On the truly dark side, the fun of that slap aside, there is not a damn thing under the sun anyone can do to change the Democratic Party at this point . . . not even if half of us voted Green. They done sold their souls to the company store (Wall $treet lobbyists). They have demonstrated that they will hold onto their illusion of power until we rip it from their bloody hands.

      So be it, I’m done fighting for those who were supposed to be on my side, but who never were. I didn’t hold my nose to vote for $hitlary and I won’t ever vote for another slimeball neoliberal President again! It does not matter that the actual anti-christ sits in the oval office. That’s what they called Shrubya and Raygunn and even Nixon! The Republican Party IS THE ANTI-CHRIST! But what that doesn’t tell you is that the Democratic Party ENABLES THEM TO BE THAT WAY AND FURTHERS THEIR RELENTLESSLY EVIL AGENDA!

      A third party is the only real hope that is left to us, besides violent revolution.

       

      "All fascism is a result of a failure of the left to provide a viable alternative." ~ Trotsky

    • #302725
      Babel 17
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      This is elder abuse, and it’s Reagan of 1988 on steroids. He at least managed to get his lines out while in public; we can only imagine what Biden is like without his rehearsed lines, teleprompter, and script to read from.

       

    • #302727
      RufusTFirefly
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      Remember when Martin and Malcolm ran for office?

      Neither do I.

      Great change often comes from the outside with powerful, often apolitical groups putting pressure on our elected officials.

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      Segami
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      @ozoneman

       

      There was SO MUCH pressure on Bernie to quickly endorse Biden, that he knew that if he left it any later, he would be blamed by Queen Hillaroid and her Clinton-roaming scum bots accusing him of holding up his endorsement…….and thats why Trump won the election (so they’ll claim) if Biden loses the November election.

       

      Bernie definitely FEARS history recording that Trump won a second term against Biden because of Bernie’s resistively late actions………Bernie is protecting his own legacy this time around, on his way out……I’m sure that’s what his closest advisors have urged him will happen if he didn’t respond with a Biden endorsement early enough. One can already hear the ear-piercing shrill sound of that fat c*nt and her gutter minions making the media rounds non-stop, all shouting “WE TOLD YOU HE WOULD DO THIS AGAIN”………..and Bernie knew this was the future awaiting him if he stalled to deliver his endorsement early, rather than later.

       

      So Bernie (this time around) is making sure (by his actions) that he didn’t follow the past 2016 timetable acumen for suspending his election and issued a timely Biden endorsement……..Bernie is definitely AFRAID of being accused (once again) of ushering in the Trump second term. So in the end, Bernie chose supporting a centrist weasel candidate who completely walks on the opposite political spectrum with him on issues……..His own principles went straight out the door along with his fight, so he settled to protect his own legacy on behalf of his memoirs rather than go down fighting in flames…….

       

       

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      His donor/supporters list because just Today I received an email from the DLCC and I haven’t been solicited by them since the last time I told them to fuck off… which I reiterated today. And I also received a phone call from Our Revolution about their zoom regrouping meeting tomorrow and he wanted to know if I would be joining them and I just said maybe. I was so busy at the time and wasn’t in the mood to talk, but wish I had filled his ear with me now going third party and having no intention of supporting the Corrupt Dem Party OR ANY ORGANIZATION THAT works in conjunction with it.

      I’ve never received any phone calls from Our Revolution and it’s been at least 10 years since I’ve heard from the DLCC… BERNIE GAVE THEM MY Info and I don’t appreciate that.

      As for him endorsing a Rapist, Pervert, Alzheimer’s ridden LIAR… that’s something he has to live with. That’s on him… and it looks pretty damn ugly.

      I would NEVER vote for another Dem. Ever.

      I’m not voting

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      Has anyone stopped to think that maybe, just maybe Bernie was threatened? It’s not like something like that has never been done before – like the movie some think  is shown to each new U.S. president (Zapruder/Kennedy film)? The emotions that are etched in his face say that to me.

      In May, as soon as I receive my ballot in the mail, I will fill in the little oval next to Bernie’s name. Then On November 3, 2020, I will leave that same space blank. I was going to write-in Bernie’s name like I did in 2016, but a JPRer has convinced me that tens of thousands of ballots with their top space blank is a much larger statement.

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