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  • eridani (6814 posts)

    Bernie Sanders Is Tired of Inside-the-Beltway Liberalism


    This is where we get to heart of the matter. Sanders and his detractors on the Democratic side are often talking past one other. On a policy level, it is helpful to think of what Sanders is doing as both offering a picture of how the world should be and jump-starting a conversation about how we should get there. To turn to a cliche, Sanders is discussing the forest of income inequality, while many Washington insiders, maybe out of habit, discuss the trees.

    Take Social Security. Sanders is not wrong that expanding Social Security is a popular position. Earlier this year, Social Security Works, an advocacy group backing the Sanders effort, released a poll showing two-thirds of voters said they are more likely to vote for a candidate who says they will expand and increase benefits. Just this week, the advocacy group the National Institute on Retirement Security found that more than half of American workers have no money saved for their post-work lives.

    Yet, one rarely hears that in Washington, where the conversation is forever about “saving” Social Security — by cutting back on benefits via such mechanisms as raising the age of retirement and changing the annual inflation adjustment to make it less generous.

    In Sanders’s view, this demonstrates how the Washington establishment is disconnected from the concerns of American life — obsessing about the never-ending Washington horse race while ignoring the financial stress many Americans face. Money from the 1 percent seeking to influence the political process both causes and compounds that separation.

    Ohio Barbarian, twenty, Coldmountaintrail and 8 othersPastiche, pacalo, Bearian, PADemD, mmonk, Enthusiast, djean111, Pam like this
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  • Enthusiast (16192 posts)

    1. Washington is out of touch?

    Say it isn’t so!     :hi:

    "I got a great big pointed fang Which is my Zomby Toof My right foot's bigger than my other one is Like a reg'lar Zomby Hoof If I raid your dormitorium Don't try to remain aloof . . ." The Zombie Woof
  • djean111 (8092 posts)

    2. Yes! Our government seems almost fucking totally dedicated to getting

    reelected, collecting campaign booty, and putting on the Most Expensive Fucking Show on Earth. Poring over what politicians SAY is, well, has become, totally stupid, as most of them will fucking say anything in order to get elected and get reelected. What they actually DO is quite another thing, and we pathetically excuse that with well, they are from a red district or whatever. They have to go along to get along. Our government may as well be on the moon, or inside a giant fortress of a bank in the Bahamas, surrounded by the most advanced and expensive weaponry, all of that, of course, top secret and hidden from us.

    Have said this before – when a Republican OR a Democrat says they want to “save” or “strengthen” Social Security – what they actually mean is “pay less out”. Fuck, I can make a dollar last a hundred years – if I pay out of it at the rate of a penny a year. That, my friends, is what they are really talking about. And also planning to take the rest of that dollar for other shit, because hey, the money is just laying there.

    Looks like all the Democrats*** are going to do now is squeal about RUSSIA! COLLUSION!!!!! IMPEACH!!!!!! and not actually do jack shit about anything else except collecting more booty and oh yeah, polish up the lying campaign rhetoric their highly paid consultants have crafted for them.

    Whilst everyone is swooning over Medicare for ALL – it does come with premiums, co-pays, high prescription prices, and does not cover dental exams, dental work, or dentures. It does not cover eye exams or glasses. It does not cover hearing aids. Without buying extra coverage, Medicare is kind of an elaborate band-aid, because hey, we are all old and gonna die anyway. Medicaid for All would be more helpful, and yes, we can afford it, especially if we stop the corporate subsidies and the MIC taking so much.


    What Medicare Does and Does Not Cover

    Without private insurance, Medicare is not the panacea it sounds like. Right now, Medicare for All is just another campaign hook.

    And I still will not vote for DINOs. No one can count on my vote because I am a woman, or because of campaign blather.

    • *Obligatory disclaimer - when I say "Democratic Party" I mean the DNC - the Clintons and the un-elected people and the consultants and the lobbyists and the corporations who actually run things.  The people who work and vote and are registered as "D" are no more the actual party than Trekkies are Star Trek.   Extra credit - the Democratic Party gets to actually fuck up your life. When you vote for it.
    You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
  • Hobbit709 (4954 posts)

    3. He's not the only one.

    If there can be term limits on the President, then there can be term limits on Congresscritters. And no one can be a lobbyist for a minimum of 5 years after leaving Congress.

    I won't shut up and I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing
    • SurrealAmerican (1418 posts)

      4. Term limits won't solve this problem…

      … but it could replace people like Bernie with people who get their policies directly from the lobbyists (not that that doesn’t already describe far too many of our “representatives”).

  • RealityCheck (1987 posts)

    5. not long ago

    there was a dire warning about the many Baby Boomers hitting retirement and the strain on our financial structure because of it. Now, we’re heading into a coming BIG BANG post B Boomers.  Good luck with 2025+, folks.

    • Coldmountaintrail (9789 posts)

      7. the warnings about SS going broke started nearly as soon as it was

      created.  It’s a very longstanding story, pushed by elements of the right.

      George W was talking up that line back when he was campaigning for governor of Texas, i.e. before 1995.

      Storyline has stayed about the same from 1940 to the present…

      “There’s no money there — it’s all IOU’s!!  We can’t afford it!!”

      (But we *can* afford these nice private accounts with fees, sign up here…..)

      • RealityCheck (1987 posts)

        8. Yet

        SS has provided a commendable service to those in need of retirement income along with some with disabilities … despite the temptations with our government fingers playing with a pot of the people’s money. As many times the prediction with SS coming to an end, it kept ticking leaving me to wonder when that energy source may finally run out. Not only does SS have it’s grim reaper lurking near by, so does our national debt. Anyone with kids, I’d teach them immediately to start saving their pennies and NEVER NEVER touch it no matter what hoping that they have enough to by some bread after 55.

  • Ohio Barbarian (13444 posts)

    6. The 1% want to loot Social Security so they can gamble with it in the casinos

    they call markets, pay both “liberal” and “conservative” inside the beltway think tanks to rationalize why that’s a good thing for society as a whole, and pay politicians to vote their way with campaign contributions.

    Inside the beltway liberalism=neoliberalism.

    No man ought to stay poor so another man can get rich. --Newton Knight