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    Bernie Sanders Rightfully Refers to Democratic Party as a Sinking Ship

    Bernie Sanders Rightfully Refers to Democratic Party as a Sinking Ship – Observer
    The Democratic Party doesn’t stand for anything besides its donors


    Sen. Bernie Sanders. Drew Angerer/Getty Images)



    In a New York Times Magazine article about the future of the Democratic Party, Sen. Bernie Sanders was asked what he thinks the party stands for. “You’re asking a good question, and I can’t give you a definitive answer. Certainly there are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats,” Sanders said.

    Sanders is right that the Democratic Party is a sinking ship. It seems that the Democratic leadership would prefer to destroy the party in its entirety rather than concede political power to progressives in order to start recouping their losses. Since Hillary Clinton lost the presidency, every push for reform has been ignored by the Democratic establishment. Wall Street puppet Sen. Chuck Schumer was elected as Senate minority leader over more popular progressive options. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who has presided over the Democrats losing over 60 seats in the house, was re-elected easily. The establishment selected their own DNC chair candidate, former Secretary of Labor Tom Perez, who sabotaged Sanders’ candidacy. The DCCC and DSCC leadership has been virtually unchanged. The DNC has doubled down on the establishment’s failed politics by hiring staffers from Clinton’s poorly run presidential campaign, and it has granted Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta’s Center for American Progress and Clinton propaganda hit man David Brock even more influence over the Democratic Party.

    The focus of the Democratic Party’s resistance to President Donald Trump and the Republican Party has primarily revolved around Russian election interference allegations and sensationalizing any links between Trump officials and Russian diplomats. The narrative has served as a useful marketing and fundraising tool to rally its loyal supporter base without taking meaningful actions on policy.

    The Democratic Party doesn’t stand for anything, and—as long as fundraising from wealthy and corporate donors remains the party’s focus—this won’t ever change. Exit poll data reveals that, despite the American population becoming more diverse, Democrats have been losing voters in every voter demographic since 2008. Favorability polling data shows that the Democratic Party’s ratings and those of its leaders—including Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer—are even lower than Trump’s and the Republican Party’s ratings. Every opportunity that the Democratic Party has had to rebuild itself has been abandoned in favor of preserving the status quo.

    Sanders’ criticisms of the Democratic Party has been few since being named the party’s outreach chair, but his opinions of the Democratic Party and its leadership have remained relatively unchanged since the Democratic primaries. Democrats ingratiating themselves with Sanders’ popularity will only carry the party so far, especially as establishment partisans maintain a bitter attitude toward Sanders and his supporters…



    More: http://observer.com/2017/03/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-sinking-ship/



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  • vanflower (553 posts)
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    1. BUt but I was told the demographics alone

    would make the Ds the dominate party, why worry about policy if you believe people will vote for you simply because of their race.

    Obviously you need to give people a reason to get up and go out, stand in line and vote for you – and not being as bad as the other guy is not good enough.


    • TwilightSporkle (1795 posts)
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      7. That argument has always been bigoted trash.

      “Black people will vote for us because they’re black! Who else are Latins going to vote for?” Etc., etc. The assumption that these people don’t care about policy, only racial herd loyalty is racist as hell, yet is the cornerstone of Democratic demographic thinking.

      What if I want to tell you to leave me and my beloved ones in peace

      But you only understand the language of the sword

      I let the blade do the talking

      So my tongue shall become iron

      And my words the mighty roar of war

  • ThouArtThat (6114 posts)
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    2. Efforts Like Justice Democrats Is The Only Mechanism To Eject Corporate Dems

    from the party.

    "In America Today, Power Corrupts and Money Corrupts Absolutely" - Anonymous  
    • daleanime (2633 posts)
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      3. Just don't expect an easy win……

      corporate ‘democrats’ will claw and bite over every inch of ground and to hell with the damage they cause in the meantime.

      When the going gets tough, the tough take care of each other
      • Betty Karlson (4322 posts)
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        4. Then let us take our gloves off.

        Hurt them every step of the way. Make them lose any odd way. The remainder of them will get it, and start to feign contrition and conversion.

        "Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
        • ThouArtThat (6114 posts)
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          5. Yes – Some Still Seem To Cling To The Belief That Our So Called Betters Have Our

          Interests at heart.

          The reality is most of “our betters” are simply in politics to enrich themselves at our expense.

          With that knowledge comes the recognition that we are in the fight of our lives and that the fight will require struggle, hardship and time.

          That said, the fight is winnable and only requires courage to engage and sustain.

          Truly there will be no one else that will fight on her behalf.

          "In America Today, Power Corrupts and Money Corrupts Absolutely" - Anonymous  
          • FanBoy (7983 posts)
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            11. in general it seems to me that our betters are often much worse

        • Jefferson23 (7274 posts)
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          6. When they decided to keep corporate money I am all for

          being done with them..take the gloves off is right.

        • daleanime (2633 posts)
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          9. Works for me…..


          When the going gets tough, the tough take care of each other
  • Gallagher (533 posts)
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    8. I've already jumped off…

    I don’t plan to spend my last few years here on earth sinking with them.  Hopefully, there’s a potential rescue mission in 2020, but I doubt there are enough intelligent voters around to recognize one when they see it. The DNC certainly won’t.  :(

  • TRex (3550 posts)
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    10. They don't care, the people that obviously will never let go of the leadership

    are willing to let the entire thing blow up. It proves over and over how little they care about us. I will never vote again for a New Dem and will do my best to primary any and all that want to drive the party off a cliff.

    That was my New Years resolution.

    Oh sweety, no just no, when I or those of us here talk about the ultra rich - it is NOT you! Not you by a longshot, oh my God did you think...no way you actually thought we meant you? Lord, this country is full of rich stupid people and you seem to be one of the worst. No sweety, you are just a low paid pawn to those ultra rich we talk about. They are wrecking the world, you are an enabler and I understand not being able to sleep at night. I wouldn't either, selling out our future. You have kids right?  
  • Enthusiast (11096 posts)
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    12. Recommended to the max!

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
  • Fire with Fire (1020 posts)
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    13. During the Obama Years

    the Democratic Party became the party of Big Business.  Of course, always, even in the FDR days, it was friendly to corporations, even if some of the inbred upper class twits did not understand — but from the death of Abraham Lincoln until the Inauguration of Barack Obama, the Republicans were the Party of Big Business.

    The corporate Men of the Long Dollars of course still donate to Republicans as they have for decades hedged their bets and financed both parties.  But their headquarters has moved from the GOP to the Democrats for the simple reason that ethnic minorities outnumber the Religious Right — the “base” of the Republican Party.  Before it was corporate America plus Evangelical Christians against liberals and people of color, a winning formula for the Republicans for 40 years.  Now it is corporate America plus people of color versus the religious right and country club Republicans.  (And progressives can go fuck themselves as far as the anybody in power is concerned.)

    Hillary may or may not have really “won” the election as voter suppression and vote flipping make it impossible to have any faith in the outcome.  But it is indisputable that Hillary did not inspire this new Democratic majority to turn out in sufficient numbers to take over the government and the washout in Congress and the States shows that she pretty well sabotaged her own party.

    Big Business, as I said, hedged its bet and they have embraced the Bizarre Experiment of Trumpism, which is great for them, unless he gets too weird.  But they have the perfect insurance policy in Mike Pence.  Nevertheless, the future is not with guys like Trump or Pence, and the Corporate Party has learned that putting forward a Person of Color gives them the best of all worlds.

    Cory Booker is on the way, folks.