Bernie Sanders' team reportedly won't have any tolerance for Biden dissenters at convention

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    • #323984
      N2Doc
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      Former Vice President Joe Biden, who recently locked up enough delegates to clinch the Democratic presidential nomination, saidin a statement Friday that he is “proud” the party is “united” heading into November’s general election against President Trump. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Politico reports, appears to have something to do with that.

      Sanders received a portion of the blame for Trump’s 2016 victory within some Democratic circles because many folks didn’t think he did enough to help Hillary Clinton after she defeated him in the primaries that year. But even some of his more vocal critics don’t feel that way way now. Neera Tanden, president of the liberal think tank Center for American Progress and a longtime Clinton aide, said Sanders “has been a tremendous force in helping unify the party,” adding that she’s “grateful for his work to urge his supporters to support Biden and fight Trump.”

      The senator has maintained throughout the election cycle that he’d support the Democratic nominee, and it sounds like his team isn’t messing around when it comes to sticking by that promise. Gregory McKelvey, a Sanders supporter from Oregon who ran to be one of his delegates at the Democratic National Convention, told Politico he spoke with a Sanders aide who told him that if they find anything expressing dissent, such as posts including catch phrases “DemExit” or “Never Joe”, on a person’s social media feed, “then you are out” as a delegate.

       

       

      https://theweek.com/speedreads-amp/918685/bernie-sanders-team-reportedly-wont-have-tolerance-biden-dissenters-convention

      Good thing I’m not a delegate, then.

    • #323988
      jbnw
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      With the nomination decided, it’s a dog & pony show for the Democrats.

      However, from my personal perspective, I switched from being a registered Democrat to independent.

      I wish us all luck –

    • #323989
      NJCher
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    • #323994
      Ohio Barbarian
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      .

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #323997
      ThouArtThat
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      @n2doc

      Hi n2doc,

      The betrayal continues.  So much for “Our Revolution”.  DemExit forever for this citizen.

      TAT

      Rights aren't rights if someone can take them away. They're privileges.
      That's all we've ever had in this country, is a bill of temporary privileges.

      - George Carlin

      Sooner or later we all sit down to a banquet of consequences.

      - Robert Louis Stevenson

      Politics is the entertainment division of the Military Industrial Complex.

      - Frank Zappa

    • #324002
      Pam2
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      ..but it’s not going to translate to support for Joementia in Nov.

       

    • #324006
      Haikugal
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      Fuck you all to hell!!

       

      The DNC “big tent” excludes Nina Turner but includes John Kasich.

    • #324034
      Populist Prole
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      Is but a great big nothingburger anyway. Why would anybody other than a corporate third-way toady attend the thing anyway? Do they actually believe that by attending they’ll get even the tiniest of tactile crumbs? ( let alone edible ones )

      Dissent by not supporting them. Then revel when they have a shit-fit befitting even Dumpf as they flail and lash out at us and blame us for them losing. Fuck those people.

    • #324038
      Fasttense
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      The only enthusiasm for Biden were from the never Bernie crowd. And since they have reduced the anti-Bernie rhetoric, the Dems seem very dull.

      Took a look at that other site and it was just soooo boring. Without all the anti-Bernie haters, it was Biden talking to Biden. Who wants to see that?

    • #324051
      closeupready
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      I won’t vote for him as the Democratic Party’s nominee.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #324076
      down-by-the-river
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      I knew Bernie was going to sell out ever since he started spouting the “Russia interfered in our election” crap. The second sign that he had no intention of winning was his hiring of former Clinton staffers to run his campaign and the third was a FAILURE to even mention the exit poll disparities during the primary. When he failed to fight the election fraud I knew he was just a figurehead that they were using to try and bring his voters into the fold. If he ever had an intention of attempting to win the nomination I never saw it. Now of course he’s telling his supporters how to vote after telling us during the 2016 election, not to listen if he told us how to vote. Now he wants to silence a person’s right to free speech at a “Democratic” convention.

      NOBODY tells ME how to vote or what I CAN AND CANNOT SAY in a country where I have FREE SPEECH.

      • #324106
        Ohio Barbarian
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        @down-by-the-river So I think you’re in good company.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

      • #324140
        Babel 17
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        @down-by-the-river

        And Bernie seemed oblivious to the rushing of the impeachment process by Schiff, followed by the bizarre timing of Pelosi once she had the House vote that impeached Trump. It all distracted from the early primary states, where Bernie was kicking ass, and then the Senate trial occurred just when he was wrapping up Iowa into a yooge victory. Between keeping him off the trail, while Biden and Buttigieg could stay on it, and then the later cheating in the counting, Sanders was kept from a clean Iowa win, which followed by his decisive wins in California and New Hampshire would have handily made him the presumptive nominee. People were swarming to him just from his other wins, but had he cleanly defeated the field in the first race, Iowa, as well, that should have ended the primaries. Biden would have looked like the washed up never-was that he is, and the party establishment would have been left to scramble over other plots to parachute in a savior.

        I saw the scam that was the timing of the impeachment process, and so did the candidate I was backing, Tulsi Gabbard. But you can’t help someone who won’t help themself, and Bernie remained steadfast in going along as the movement he led kept getting cheated.

      • #324538
        JonLP
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        He was telling the truth. Not everyone gets their news from Jimmy Dore or Aaron Mate.

        • #324845
          David the Gnome
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          @jonlp

          “He was telling the truth. Not everyone gets their news from Jimmy Dore or Aaron Mate.”

          The obvious reply to that is that not everyone gets their news from Rachel Maddow or Stephen Colbert.  Everyone kept saying “we’ll wait for the Mueller report” – then the report came – and it was a whole lot of nothing.  The Clinton campaign spent just short of a billion dollars on five lobbyists – how much did Russia spend to interfere?  How many years of investigation were required that amounted to nothing?  Now, maybe if they had investigated his finances… money laundering, corruption, all of that would have been obvious.  What they (and by they I am referring to democrat politicians in general) wanted though was to blame Russia for Clinton’s loss.  Epic fail.  Years of widespread media coverage, constant paranoid babble about Russia that amounted to nothing.

          Of course, NOW there is perhaps more reason for concern, given that Trump has pulled out of pretty much every arms treaty we had with them.  Now that Putin is trying much harder to get back into the arms race.  Now he has a lot more reason to be concerned with the U.S. – and with what might happen if a democrat wins, too.  Then there was Clinton calling for a “no fly zone” over Syria, apparently trying to intimidate the Russians much as Obama did – which worked out… oh yeah, not at all.

          There was never any proof of Russia interfering with the election in a way that altered it.  It is also the most hypocritical bull shit I have ever heard – the U.S. interferes in elections all around the world, very regularly.  Finally, it really doesn’t even matter anymore – not unless you believe we have a democratic election system – and I do not.  Other Countries spend money interfering in our elections every god damn election.  You know, like Israel.

          At the end of years of investigation and one news anchor and reporter after another saying “Trump is finished!  This will bring him down!”  It seems that, oops, maybe that was a bit of a waste of time and money.  There were all kinds of very legitimate things they could have gone after – but they chose Russia.  They chose Julian Assange, too, we can see how that turned out.

    • #324098
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      He is imperfect (like all of us) so, I suppose, inherently just a ‘lesser evil’ in the eyes of some. We all draw the line in a different place when it comes to deciding when an ‘imperfect’/’lesser evil’ candidate is acceptable to defeat a ‘greater evil’ candidate or not.

      Bernie has always said that defeating Trump and his conservatism is a necessary but not sufficient goal. Nothing that has happened recently has done anything to change that.

      They are called 'human' rights not "if politicians do not feel threatened" rights. Many politicians see national sovereignty/security as more important because they protect their power and wealth. Human rights often do just the opposite.

      National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not resolved with more national sovereignty.

    • #324121
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      ..He seems to genuinely believe Biden is better than Trump. Most of us don’t believe that though, so he’s not much of a “sheepdog”.  I also don’t think he “sold out” because he hasn’t taken corporate cash and flip flopped on the issues. I too wish he would have stayed in and fought harder but I think the combination of his heart attack and the Covid 19 crisis ended that. He is still endorsing progressives in local elections.

       

       

       

       

    • #324143
      Hobbit709
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      that try to hush me. Not that I would waste my time going to the Corporate Fellating Rally-i.e. the DNC run convention, in the first place.

      My displeasure with them will be shown at the polls.

      I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing.

    • #324240
      closeupready
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      …  Really need to reflect.  I am just so furious at the political corruption that has metastasized here in the US.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #324252
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      The whole election circus including the conventions

      are a sham, and Bernie made himself irrelevant. Even

      the so called few progressives in Congress rather join

      their club than leaving it. The Greens intend to stay a

      very small minority party, and the one or two issues,

      which I agree with, are not enough for me to vote libertarian.

      How about: “They gave an election and nobody voted.”??

    • #324324
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      I’m not voting for him.

      Looks like we’ll be living under a Trump dictatorship as long as they insist on keeping JoeMentia as the candidate.

      Surely I’m not the only person to refuse to vote for someone who’s the candidate only because the nomination was STOLEN for him.

      FUCK THAT. I don’t give two hoots about how Horrid Trump is. Fix elections and I will NEVER vote for your chosen one.

      And Bernard can’t tell people whether they can dissent or not. WTF? Who the hell does he think he is? Trump?

      NO ONE tells me who to support… not even Bernard Sanders.

    • #324535
      JonLP
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      I can’t count how many times a Bernie hater brought up booing at the convention.

    • #324556
      Average Gazoo
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      Sanders was not really trying to win, obviously, so the whole point was to:

      1. encourage involvement and inspire others to run at all levels. This has worked and got us AOC and others.
      2. demonstrate broad support for M4A, $15/hr and other sane policies then come into the convention and demand inclusion

      I’m almost done with Bernie.

      Not Him. Us.

      Be the Change

      • #324564
        Populist Prole
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        I thought the whole point was a shake-up, not some BS tweaking of the system. Knuckling under is the antithesis of “Our revolution”.

    • #324562
      MissDeeds
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      We will support or not support whomever we choose. We’re not the ‘fall in line’ type of voters, and we don’t subscribe to ‘the beatings will continue until morale improves’ doctrine.

      Wake up, Bernie, before you wreck your legacy for the reprehensible DNC.

    • #324799
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      Clinton did everything wrong as a Senator from New York (we won’t mention how she won the Senate seat).

      Clinton did everything wrong running for President in 2008 (talk about racist).

      Clinton did everything wrong as Secretary of State right out of the starting blocks (turned neocon into the new normal).

      Clinton did everything wrong between 2012 through 2016 (Clinton Foundation crap started in 2008, her speeches started in 2012).

      Clinton did everything wrong running for President in 2016 (Cheating and bribery).

      Most of all, Clinton could not shut her big stupid mouth after 2016. Her and her cohorts still blame Sanders like she was an innocent bystander.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

      • #326303
        JonLP
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        I can’t believe Hillary Clinton got a pass for her 2008 campaign while Sanders was smeared immediately out the gates.

    • #326261
      Bernice Ta
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      I don’t know what happened, but Bernie is not my choice anymore. Need to change my user name. You’d think Bernie would know by now that we won’t be told where to go, what to do, what to say. Fuck that shit. Where has it ever gotten us but further away from what we need?

      Not blue, screw you. Green party it is, then.

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