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    Bernie: Senate Republicans block Trump proposal to lower prescription drug price

    *I love how Bernie fights back…expect to hear Trump’s own words repeated over and over again. lol

    Bernie Sanders: Senate Republicans block Trump proposal to lower prescription drug prices

    Tue, 12/06/2016 – 4:51pm —
    Vermont Business Magazine

    Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) proposed an amendment Tuesday to lower the cost of prescription drugs by letting Medicare negotiate drug prices and allowing for the importation from other countries of low-cost prescription drugs – both proposals advocated by President-elect Donald Trump. Republicans blocked the Sanders amendment.

    During his run for the White House, Trump called for requiring Medicare to negotiate with drug companies to lower prices. In a speech in New Hampshire last Feb. 7, Trump criticized current U.S. law that forbids Medicare from negotiating prices with pharmaceutical companies. Trump said: “We are not allowed to negotiate drug prices. Can you believe it? We pay about $300 billion more than we are supposed to, than if we negotiated the price. So there’s $300 billion on day one we solve.”

    Trump’s campaign platform also advocated making it legal to reimport cheaper drugs from other countries.

    Sanders offered an amendment to implement Trump’s campaign promises.

    “I am sure that all of my Republican colleagues will support an amendment in my hands that will do exactly what Mr. Trump said he would accomplish as president,” Sanders told Senate colleagues. But Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) objected to holding a vote on the amendment.

    http://www.vermontbiz.com/news/december/bernie-sanders-senate-republicans-block-trump-proposal-lower-prescription-drug-prices

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    • djean111 (4165 posts)
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      1. I am starting to really wonder why some are so anxious for Bernie to resign.

      I don’t see anyone else taking up these battles.

      You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
      • NJCher (1859 posts)
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        4. yes, it appears we have one person who has got our backs

        And he’s 74 years old and been fighting the battle pretty much all his life.

        What an effing corrupt cesspool we live in.


        Cher

      • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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        5. You mean from corporate DNC Dems..or like that awful opinion piece from

        Counterpunch calling Bernie a sell out?

        In my view, its been only about a month since the election and Bernie hasn’t wasted any time and is in the press daily.

        He is laying out the strategy in front of everyone..talking to the people, and not waiting for permission from anyone..most especially the DNC assholes.

        • whispers (1251 posts)
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          7. Bernie has always done what he considers is

          the right thing to do, and has never needed anyone’s permission and frequently never received any support by his colleagues.  He is one of a kind.  We are lucky.

          "There is no god higher than truth."  Gandhi
          • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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            8. Which is why he has been successful as a lawmaker..the amendment king

            label..people feeling despondent right now can try and hold onto that thought as we fight back.

          • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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            30. we're unlucky, actually, that he's all there is. hard to accomplish a lot

            without some support.

            • whispers (1251 posts)
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              34. So true, but I always like to look for positives.

              "There is no god higher than truth."  Gandhi
        • Koko (3367 posts)
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          13. I missed the Counterpunch Opinion piece, but…

          I remember Paul Street and others from the “BAR” calling Bernie a sell out from the moment he decided to run.  I was shocked because I used to like to read both Paul Street and Glenn Ford…but, they got unhinged over Bernie running.   I finally figured that they are declared Socialists and that seemed to be their problem with him.  :shrug:

          Don’t know if it was one of those two who did the OP though.

          • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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            15. I get it if people don't agree with a strategy or policy issue, but a sell out?

            Bernie wants to win good policy for the country, he has always played the long game, imo.

            It was a different author:

            http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/break_free_and_lead_or_resign_a_letter_to_bernie_sanders_20161206

            • Koko (3367 posts)
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              16. Thanks for the link…

              just went over and read it.  He sounds as bitterly disappointed about the election as many of us are but his attack on Bernie seems very unfair given what Wikileaks revealed and what we personally know about the Clinton Campaign’s tactics against Bernie along with the AP calling CA for Hillary the day before their vote.

              I looked to see what else he had written and he does really seem to be a person who deeply cares about what he’s seen happen to the Dems and maybe it’s just bitter disappointment causing his tirade against Bernie–but it did seem OTT, given the facts.

              Here’s a snip from another article where he calls Bernie Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.


              Propaganda in America 2016

              Posted By: Yoav Litvin Nov 2, 2016

              Throughout this campaign cycle you projected two dialectically opposed personas. Doctor Jekyll was a unifier, a truly independent and courageous thinker and statesman with a selfless mission to better our country and world. Mister Hyde was an opportunistic and frightened tool who championed the working class and progressive/radical causes only when they aligned with his career objectives.

              If you are the people’s champion you claimed to be throughout your campaign, it is past time to wash your hands clean of, and harshly condemn all things related to the Democratic Party. Democrats have learned nothing from their shameful failures and will create no meaningful opposition to the right-wing white supremacist agenda that will take hold of the United States in several weeks. Their impotence is evident, as further conveyed by the shameful non-response of the current Democratic administration to the legitimate protests in North Dakota. Any hopes for their reform are a complete waste of time we do not have.
              http://disinfo.com/2016/11/propaganda-america-2016/

              • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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                17. That is not my idea of constructive criticism. I do hope people who feel as he

                does will in the end still support Bernie regardless. There is a reason why Bernie did not contact Jill Stein to join her, and a reason why he ignored Nader..they are imo, political calculations aimed to win, not to suggest they’re bad people or anything like that. Appeared clear to me he decided to avoid obvious political landmines..agree or not, Sanders does not deserve the label of sell out.

                • djean111 (4165 posts)
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                  31. Thank you. IMO, they both thought Bernie was a useful tool,

                  and didn’t care about the ramifications.  Bring the good Bernie does in Congress to a decided halt?  What do either of them care, they wanted attention for the Green Party.  When Stein openly whined about Bernie, that pretty much ended my interest in her.

                  You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
                  • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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                    33. +1.

              • whispers (1251 posts)
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                18. Career objectives? Opportunistic?

                Bernie never claimed to be the “people’s champion”; he championed policies for the working people as he is doing still.  Argh!!!  This guy is totally out of line.  Some people NEED a leader.  Bernie wants us to take the lead.  Follow his example; he works hard to get things done.

                "There is no god higher than truth."  Gandhi
                • Koko (3367 posts)
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                  19. Well..I agree with both of you…

                  “Whispers” and “Jefferson23.”

                  Bitter and Angry and attacking Bernie are not “Moving Forward” it’s going back and trashing the wrong person.

                  If we sit in a closet holding all this anger and resentment against the Dem Candidate who really had the best chance of winning of any “Dark Horse” who attempted a run in decades–then we will never be able to do the Reforms we Need.

                  I’ve never been a Nader basher because I’m of the generation who saw the Good “Nader’s Raiders” did for Consumer Protection.  Yet I’ve seen so many “so called Dems” trash him and blame him for Gore’s loss no matter how many times other Dems tell them that it was Florida’s “Hanging Chads” manipulation of the Vote and the Supreme Court that cost Gore Florida.  Also the DLC was on Gore’s Back to make sure he didn’t make too much of a fuss.

                  Now I see the Dem Leadership trying to tar Bernie as a Nader Spoiler.  It makes me ashamed of the fact that I was a life long Dem.  Always hopeful that it was the Evil Republicans who were doing all the mischief.

                  Now, I see the evil within what we though was our Democratic Party and I want to work to change it.  I hope all those young people who worked for Bernie now SEE the System for what it is and will continue the work to change it as those of us older start to leave the planet in coming years.

                  • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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                    20. +1. Btw, I'm a big Nader fan too. The blame thrown at him

                    was ugly and unwarranted.

                  • whispers (1251 posts)
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                    22. Well, I would never be a Nader basher as I

                    voted for him.  I think blaming 3rd party candidates is arrogant and totally not helpful.  We should vote for the person we think would help create the best world for the future, with policies that we can support, and a person and history we can trust.  Bernie wasn’t a spoiler.  Isn’t this new, blaming the primary candidate who did not run 3rd party?  I am tired of their blame game.  Actually, I am tired of 3rd way huff and puff party affiliates and all of their distorted antics, shrill shame and blame, frenzied fear-mongering, denigrating rants and ridiculous delusions of righteousness.  Enough!!!

                    "There is no god higher than truth."  Gandhi
      • Akallabeth (2234 posts)
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        26. What a pile of shit – Trump was never a populist

        “This is religion
        There’s a liar on the altar
        The sermon never falter
        This is religion
        Your religion”

        "Out of many, one"
    • NJCher (1859 posts)
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      2. so the republicans don't want the gov't to get the best deal

      Trump said: “We are not allowed to negotiate drug prices. Can you believe it? We pay about $300 billion more than we are supposed to, than if we negotiated the price. So there’s $300 billion on day one we solve.”

      Yet the republicans have no qualms about cutting Medicare and Medicaid by 1 billion.

      What dicks. What total and complete utter @$#holes.

      I hate these people.


      Cher

      p.s. years ago, during the bush years, I was director of electronic communications for one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies worldwide. One day I had to cover some seminar they sponsored, which happened to be about pharmaceutical pricing. One of their experts was asked why Americans paid more for pharmaceuticals than Canada, and he responded that it was because Americans have more money and can bear the price.

      He went on to say how pharmaceuticals worldwide are pretty much priced by how much they can get.

      So really, we underwrite pharmaceuticals for the rest of the world.  In addition to the rest of the world taking our jobs, leaving us with nothing, we pick up the cost of the world’s drug development.

      • Akallabeth (2234 posts)
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        27. Post 2 is repeating drug industry propaganda thats been TOTALLY debunked

        The assertion that drug companies spend huge amounts of money on research (they don’t, its mostly spent on advertising and promotion and lobbying) and that high US prices are because of public healthcare in other countries (!) and regulation is a SHAMELESS LIE BY THE DRUG INDUSTRY (link here)  THAT HAS NO BASIS IN FACT WHATSOEVER.

        See http://www.pharmamyths.net/files/BMJ-Foreign_Free_Riders_Oct_05.pdf

        Foreign “Free Riders” and the High Price of US Medicines:

        <h3 class=”ContentHeader”>Donald W. Light, Joel Lexchin BMJ vol 331: 958-60</h3>

        We can find no evidence to support the widely believed claims from industry that lower prices in other industrialised countries do not allow companies to recover their R&D costs; so they have to charge Americans more to make up the difference and pay for these “foreign free riders.” We also explain why the claims themselves contradict the economic nature of the pharmaceutical industry.

        The latest report from the UK Pharmaceutical Price Regulation Scheme shows that drug companies in the United Kingdom invest more of their revenues from domestic sales in research and development than do companies in the US. Prices in the UK are much lower than those in the US yet profits remain robust.

        Companies in other countries also manage to recover their research and development costs, maintain high profits, and sell drugs at substantially lower prices than in the US. For example, in Canada the 35 companies that are members of the brand name industry association report that income from domestic sales is, on average, about 10 times greater than research and development costs. They have profits higher than makers of computer equipment and telecommunications carriers despite prices being about 40% lower than in the US.

        "Out of many, one"
    • whispers (1251 posts)
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      3. Bernie is still working for us.

      Love to Bernie!

      "There is no god higher than truth."  Gandhi
      • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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        6. Totally.

      • Koko (3367 posts)
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        21. Yep!

      • Akallabeth (2234 posts)
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        28. Every word spent talking about Bernie

        Is a word that should be talking about issues.

        "Out of many, one"
        • whispers (1251 posts)
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          29. You are right.

          "There is no god higher than truth."  Gandhi
    • Billy (1979 posts)
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      Well well well, “senate republicans” are the only group of assholes that would do that. That group of 60 that was controlling the senate that blocked the same bill last time it was brought up under the direction of Obama. Are just awesome. And must of mistakenly accidentally voted against it the wrong way.

      • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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        10. ha ha ha..good one.

    • Port tack 8 (590 posts)
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      11. I wonder which side the so-called Dem leaders are on

      Will they join their establishment counter parts or will they join Trump and fight the repubs. We know Bernie is always on the people’s side no matter who he has to fight. This is going to be so interesting, I think their true corporate colors will be showing on both sides for all to see.

      • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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        12. Agreed, they will be known by their voice, stand with the people or the corps.

      • Koko (3367 posts)
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        14. …!

        It will be interesting to see the contortions of both the Repubs and the Third Way Dems in reaction to every policy Tweet from Trump going forward.

         

    • 2cannan (1364 posts)
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      23. If trump names this guy to head the FDA he may realize some cost savings for us

      since he doesn’t want to have a lengthy approval process for drugs or make sure they are effective before being available to patients!!

      Trump Team Said to Consider Thiel Associate O’Neill for FDA
      https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-12-07/trump-team-is-said-to-consider-thiel-associate-o-neill-for-fda

      snip

      ‘Reform FDA’
      O’Neill also could push the agency in new directions. In a 2014 speech, he said he supported reforming FDA approval rules so that drugs could hit the market after they’ve been proven safe, but without any proof that they worked, something he called “progressive approval.”

      “We should reform FDA so there is approving drugs after their sponsors have demonstrated safety — and let people start using them, at their own risk, but not much risk of safety,” O’Neill said in a speech at an August 2014 conference called Rejuvenation Biotechnology. “Let’s prove efficacy after they’ve been legalized.”

      • Jefferson23 (4869 posts)
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        24. Good grief, will they be allowed to make the drugs in their bathtubs too?

    • jwirr (3386 posts)
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      25. Of course the did. They Rs are not going to let him have anything that he wants

      He will either work their way of no way.

    • TM99 (4694 posts)
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      32. Some of us have been saying all along

      that Trump is not your ‘standard Republican’.  I am not surprised that the corporate establishment gang nixed this amendment, and I am certain that the New Dems in the Senate will lend no helping hands to Sanders as it fights both of them.

      I might just cry if we see a year from now that Sanders and Trump are more in alignment on policy than either the GOP or New Dem congress critters!

      When you hear people raising reasoned objections to Trump’s policies and appointments, odds are that you’re listening to the sort of thoughtful dissent that’s essential to any semblance of democracy, and it may be worth taking seriously. When you hear people criticizing Trump and his appointees for doing the same thing his rivals would have done, or his predecessors did, odds are that you’re getting the normal hypocrisy of partisan politics, and you can roll your eyes and stroll on. But when you hear people shrieking that Donald Trump is the illegitimate result of a one-night stand between Ming the Merciless and Cruella de Vil, that he cackles in Russian while barbecuing babies on a bonfire, that everyone who voted for him must be a card-carrying Nazi who hates the human race, or whatever other bit of over-the-top hate speech happens to be fashionable among the chattering classes at the moment—why, then, dear reader, you’re hearing a phenomenon as omnipresent and unmentionable in today’s America as sex was in Victorian England. You’re hearing the voice of class bigotry: the hate that dare not speak its name.  -- John Michael Greer