pa28 (398 posts)August 24, 2018 at 9:50 am
Bernie is introducing a living wage "tax Amazon" bill.
“I don’t believe that ordinary Americans should be subsidizing the wealthiest person in the world because you pay your employees inadequate wages.”
The idea is to tax big corporations for the amount of the public benefits their employees receive. In effect ending the subsidy Amazon, Wal-Mart receive to maintain low wages.
Once upon a time Dems existed to create legislation like this, now let’s see if they embrace Bernie’s very sensible idea or sit back and explain all the many important reasons why we shouldn’t be talking about living wages or why we just need to leave poor Jeff Bezos alone.Phlem, ChefEric, tk2kewl and 21 othersxynthee, eridani, Half Century Man, NothingcleverjustRay, Utopian Leftist, twenty, HomerRamone, Land of Enchantment, kath, Pastiche, Bearian, Lucas Jackson, NV Wino, graycat, Enthusiast, Charles, A little weird, 12-Bar Blues, Coldmountaintrail, Pacco Fransisco, Populist Prole like thisDemexit date June 2016 after 23 years.
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Coldmountaintrail (9789 posts) (Reply to original post) August 24, 2018 at 9:55 am
pa28 (398 posts) (Reply to Coldmountaintrail - post #1) August 24, 2018 at 10:07 am
2. They all came out when Bernie said Amazon had gotten too big.
Watching the media and corporate Dems rush to Bezos defense was like an alarm going off at the fire house.Demexit date June 2016 after 23 years.
Coldmountaintrail (9789 posts) (Reply to pa28 - post #2) August 24, 2018 at 10:24 am
3. oh yeah — they came out for the tax attack on bezos inc in seattle as well
they are always there to catapult the propaganda for jeffy and all the rest of the techboys
doh1304 (1155 posts) (Reply to original post) August 24, 2018 at 2:09 pm
4. The only legitimate argument against this is
that any raise in wages results in an increase in wage inequality and inflation (the well-off middle class will always demand “their share”, the “small business” class will always say that they “can’t afford” to pay higher wages) To be really effective in adressing low buying power adress prices instead – but that rejects capitalism fundamentally. It’s time to do that. Tax corporations that pay low wages, revive the progressive income tax, etc.
eridani (6814 posts) (Reply to original post) August 25, 2018 at 12:42 am
5. Now Bernie Sanders wants Amazon to pay up.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will soon introduce legislation that would require large employers like Amazon, Walmart and McDonald’s to fully cover the cost of food stamps, public housing, Medicaid and other federal assistance received by their employees. The goal, he says, is to force corporations to pay a living wage and curb roughly $150 billion in taxpayer dollars that currently go to funding federal assistance programs for low-wage workers each year.
The bill, which Sanders plans to introduce in the Senate on Sept. 5, would impose a 100 percent tax on government benefits received by workers at companies with 500 or more employees. For example, if an Amazon employee receives $300 in food stamps, Amazon would be taxed $300.
“At a time of massive wealth and income inequality, the gap between the very rich and everyone else continues to grow wider,” Sanders said.
Sanders’ bill would be an extension of a petition he started on Tuesday calling on the world’s richest man, Amazon founder Jeffrey P. Bezos, to pay workers a living wage and to improve working conditions at Amazon warehouses. As of Thursday morning, it had 105,000 signatures.You've heard of the Good Witch of the North and the Wicked Witch of the West, right? I'm the Morally Ambiguous Witch of the Northwest.
pa28 (398 posts) (Reply to eridani - post #5) August 25, 2018 at 11:38 am
6. Good explanation from Bernie.
Bernie will introduce his bill on September 5th and Senate Democrats will flee in terror.Demexit date June 2016 after 23 years.
eridani (6814 posts) (Reply to pa28 - post #6) August 25, 2018 at 7:56 pm
7. Good reason to start pestering them in advance n/tYou've heard of the Good Witch of the North and the Wicked Witch of the West, right? I'm the Morally Ambiguous Witch of the Northwest.
eridani (6814 posts) (Reply to original post) August 30, 2018 at 12:49 am
8. Sanders Response to Amazon Statement on Working Conditions
U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) issued the following statement Wednesday after Amazon responded to Sanders’ call for stories from Amazon workers:
“Let’s start with the facts. All over this country, many Amazon employees, who work for the wealthiest person on Earth, are paid wages so low they can’t make ends meet. Thousands of Amazon employees are forced to rely on food stamps, Medicaid and public housing because their wages are too low, including 1 out of 3 of its workers in Arizona and 2,400 in Pennsylvania and Ohio, according to The New Food Economy. Bottom line: the taxpayers of this country should not have to subsidize employees at a company owned by Mr. Bezos who is worth $155 billion. That is absurd.
“Amazon has been less than forthcoming with information about their employment practices. What we do know is that Amazon’s median employee pay is only $28,446 — 9 percent less than the industry average and well below what constitutes a living wage in the United States. Further, we believe that many of Amazon’s workers are employed by temporary staffing agencies and contractors and make even less than the median Amazon employee.
“Unfortunately, this is all the information we have because Amazon refuses to make public complete information about the wages and benefits provided by the contractors it uses to run fulfillment centers across the country. If Amazon is so proud of the way it treats its workers, it should make public the number of people it hires through temporary staffing agencies like Integrity Staffing Solutions and make public the hourly rate and benefits those workers earn.
“It’s not only low wages that are of concern with regard to Amazon. There are deeply disturbing stories about working conditions at fulfillment centers run by Amazon and its contractors. Amazon’s warehouses are on the National Council for Occupational Safety and Health’s list of most dangerous places to work in the United States. According to the NCOSH, seven Amazon workers have died on or near the job since 2013, including three workers within five weeks at three separate locations last year. I will be asking the Occupational Safety and Health Administration to investigate unsafe working conditions at Amazon fulfillment centers.
eridani (6814 posts) (Reply to eridani - post #8) August 31, 2018 at 2:21 am
9. Bernie Sanders called out Jeff Bezos for poor treatment of Amazon workers
Jeff Bezos, the founder and CEO of Amazon, is the richest man in the world and controls the internet’s most powerful shopping destination. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is an outspoken advocate for America’s working class and has spent much of his political career campaigning for the restructuring of the country’s financial and corporate system.
And so it seems fitting that Bezos and Sanders are now locked in a battle over this very topic.
Sanders has repeatedly spoken out against Amazon, and last week, he sent out an email to his supporters asking them to join forces against Amazon, which he accused of paying its workers poor wages while its CEO and founder amasses unprecedented wealth. The email accused Amazon of engaging in “greed which seems to have no end” and encouraged readers to sign a petition that would impel Bezos to improve work conditions and increase wages.
The petition has received 120,000 signatures and garnered plenty of support across social media. Sanders also requested to hear from Amazon workers who have “used public assistance, such as food stamps, Medicaid or subsidized housing, in order to make ends meet.”
In a rare move from a company that seldom responds to complaints, Amazon fired back Wednesday, calling Sanders’s allegations “inaccurate and misleading.” Amazon accused Sanders of purposely seeking out negative stories, and insisted that it’s doing plenty for its workers.
eridani (6814 posts) (Reply to original post) September 1, 2018 at 3:16 am
10. Bernie Sanders Is Officially Getting Under Jeff Bezos’s Skin
Amazon’s own claims run counter to dozens of reports of worker mistreatment. In recent years, stories have proliferated about warehouse workers skipping bathroom breaks to keep their jobs; taking home less than the minimum wage; and walking as many as 15 miles a day inside warehouses, while handheld scanners tell management how much idle time they spend between fulfilling customer orders. In Amazon’s Breinigsville, Pennsylvania, warehouse, workers were allegedly forced to work in 100-degree heat, leading some to become dehydrated and collapse. (Amazon eventually installed air conditioners in the warehouse.) Since 2013, according to the National Council for Occupational Safety and Health, seven people have died on the job in Amazon warehouses. (In response to the N.C.O.S. study, Amazon said in a statement that it is “proud of [its] safety record and thousands of Amazonians work hard every day innovating ways to make it even better.”)
When Bezos was named the richest man in modern history at the end of last month, it threw the plight of Amazon’s workers into even sharper relief, coinciding with a spate of protests from Amazon workers around the world over poor working conditions. As I wrote last month, there was always the danger that Bezos’s massive wealth would become a liability for his company. And Sanders, in his relentless fight against the one percent, seems resolved to make Bezos the face of U.S. income inequality.
Amazon seems uniquely wary of Sanders, and for good reason. While damning stories have not been enough to ruffle the company, rising political tensions have. In the past five years, as it has grown in size, Amazon has increased its lobbying spending 400 percent, mostly staving off Washington regulators. More recently, however, Trump has given Wall Street reason to worry. After a series of tweets in which the president claimed the company gets special treatment from the U.S. Postal Service (“Only fools, or worse, are saying that our money losing Post Office makes money with Amazon,” he wrote in one), Amazon’s stock plunged 5 percent. Worse for Bezos, the negative attention is increasingly bipartisan. Sanders is the most popular politician in the country, at least according to recent polling, meaning his words could prove substantially weightier than the (notoriously unpopular) president’s. He could also inspire other progressive lawmakers to mimic them. If there is to be a sustained effort to cut Amazon down to size, after all, it would help if it outlasted Trump’s tenure in the White House.