Biden Camp Warns Rivals Off Attacks on His Family in Ohio Debate

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  • #182353

    Ohio Barbarian
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    How’s this for arrogance and privilege? Don’t you dare besmirch the sacred Biden name, or we’ll get very, very angry! What’s Biden going to do if Tulsi goes for the throat or Bernie says systemic legalized family corruption must stop? Shout NEEE! at them? Catapult cows? They’re already firing the poutrage catapults on SV, and the debate’s not till Tuesday night. Oh, please, gods, make it happen!

    From Bloomberg:

    Joe Biden has a warning for his Democratic rivals as they prepare for the fourth televised debate next week: Stay away from the issue of Ukraine and Hunter Biden.

    The 12 candidates participating in Tuesday’s debate in Westerville, Ohio, are honing their answers to questions about the U.S. House impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, which centers on the president’s request to the leader of Ukraine to investigate unfounded allegations about Biden and his son’s work there.

    But the front-runner’s campaign suggests they shouldn’t stray into shots about the Biden family.

    An aide to Biden said that any candidate who “calls themselves a ‘Democrat’” and repeats what the aide said were “discredited lies” about Biden and his son “would be making a profound statement about themselves.”

    Fully ridiculous story here.

    We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

  • #182356

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    The controversy isn’t about Biden’s son; it’s about what Biden’s suspected of having done to protect him.

    Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

    • #185391

      Ohio Barbarian
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      @snot No, not really. That’s what Trump is saying, and that’s what the corporate media is focusing on. What is important to most voters, however, is that Hunter Biden made 50K a month just because of who his daddy was. The fact that that sort of thing is legal in the first place is the issue. The fact that Joe Biden, and Elizabeth Warren, see nothing wrong with that is the issue.

      We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

      With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

    • #186881

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      You’re right; I stand corrected.  I should have limited my remark to what’s relevant under the law as it now stands.

      Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

  • #182362

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    The way he protects his ne’er do well son is similar to the way another VP (from back in the ’80s) advanced the career of his shit-for-brains son all the way to the Oval Office.  Will Hunter be appointed president by the Supremes in 2028?

    • #187211

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      Are you suggesting W didn’t deserve the millions he got from the Saudis after digging a bunch of dry holes? That his dad being CIA chief had something to do with that compensation?  Next you’ll tell me Chelsea doesn’t deserve a $10 million apartment in NYC courtesy of the Clinton Foundation.  I mean, just think of all they’ve done, and her invaluable contributions.

      Come now, this sort of thing is as time honored as apple pie, and totally on the up and up as far as the plebs know. Why pick on poor Joe and Hunter? Why give nepotism a bad name?

  • #182368

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    Sure hope Tulsi shows up and skewers ByeDone accordingly. She could just bring up Hunter’s job with MBNA and ByeDone’s bankruptcy bill. We’ll have more bleeding eyeballs.

    Vichy Dem (VD) + Group of Parasites (GOP) = Plutocratic Uniparty (PU) PU slogan for the 99%: "Consume and Be Happy!" "The more I see of the moneyed people, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw

  • #182371

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    Even under those “suggestions” they can ask him about withholding a billion in foreign aid to get a prosecutor fired in Ukraine.

    Or about the report from a member of the Ukrainian parliament that the Ukrainian firm Burisma paid him $900,000 – the firm that was being investigated by the fired prosecutor.

    I would LOVE to hear him answer those.

  • #182518

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    What exactly would Corey Booker have to lose by going after Biden? He’s too young to want to give up his Senate seat for a job in a hypothetical Biden administration, and I don’t see Biden having Booker on his short list for VP.

    Booker will gain more time with the camera on him if he makes an issue of this, he’ll get googled more, get interviewed more after the debate, and good government (goo-goos) types will likely noticeably bump up his donations total. And if he was smart he could segue criticism of Biden into a brutal take-down of Trump, and finish on that so as to get a lot of applause, and let Biden suck on that lemon of a moment. lol :)

    Harris and Klobuchar are definitely on Biden’s short list, but Sanders and Gabbard might feel an obligation to walk the walk and at least obliquely reference the principle of avoiding the appearance of corruption. Though they have to have at the ready a follow-up question from a moderator who all but begs them to name Biden. Both Sanders and Gabbard stand to pick up Biden voters if he drops out, though not for all the same reasons, imo, and they aren’t about to lay into Biden as an easy shot.

    If Biden is the nominee he’d want Gabbard campaigning for him, and that might involve a commitment to get her a sub-cabinet position in the DoD, or State Department. Lord knows the military could use women to be looking out for the women, and she’d be good at oversight.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goo-goos

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  • #182629

    HassleCat
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    It’s not your son’s fault, Joe. He didn’t use his office to arrange comfy jobs for family members. You did that. You. Joe Biden. The one running for president.

  • #182690

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    It’s not quite the same thing, but “it’s not the crime, it’s the cover up” keeps coming to mind.  This threat to the other candidates may be enough to finish off Biden.

  • #182704

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    Ha!

    Be the Change

  • #183648

    Babel 17
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    https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/whereshunter-becomes-top-trend-online-thanks-to-viral-trump-tweet/

    I have to wonder if he’s trying to settle the case of the woman who’s demanding he take a paternity test, and who has a court order backing her up.

    A boilerplate NDA can work wonders, but if the woman and her lawyers suddenly refuse to discuss the case, drop the legal action, and then the woman displays an apparent increase in income, a lot of reporters will be demanding answers.

    Buying her silence in a way wherein she lays low is risky at best. If she is the mother of Hunter’s child, Joe Biden’s grandchild, and his lawyers try that, she will be holding all the cards. That would elevate her to book deal status, and she wouldn’t need a NDA settlement, and Hunter would still be paying child support.

    He can’t afford to add “dead beat dad” to his resume, but as of a few months ago that label became unavoidable, imo, if he is in fact the father.

    I think the plan was for Biden to have locked up the nomination by now, and thus this could have all been settled quietly, especially with the media having switched into total lap dog mode for the establishment candidate.

    This is all hypothetical, and Hunter might be the victim of a deranged and dangerous stalker. But why the hell hasn’t he taken the test, and long ago buried this story? He can’t even credibly claim victim-hood at this point, if he isn’t the father, and never slept with her.

    As an aside, maybe he thinks he isn’t the father, but doesn’t want to concede that he slept with her. By avoiding the test he’s projecting that fatherhood is an impossibility. He wants that to be seen as the truth, because the timeline that’s being asserted puts him in a bad light vis a vis his other relationships.

    From just one day ago, this.

    https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/oct/11/paternity-suit-service-argument-loses-s/?news-arkansas

    Arkansas paternity-suit service argument loses steam; Biden’s son seen as likely to drop it
    by Frank E. Lockwood | October 11, 2019 at 7:16 a.m.

    After initially questioning whether he’d been properly served with a paternity lawsuit, the son of former Vice President Joe Biden is expected to drop that objection, according to a document filed Thursday in Independence County.

    A hearing has been scheduled for Dec. 2 in Batesville before 16th Judicial Circuit Judge Don McSpadden.

    Biden and the baby’s mother, Lunden Alexis Roberts, “have settled issues related to the service of process” and proper service “is no longer expected to be a contested issue,” Roberts’ attorney, Clint Lancaster, wrote in a motion filed Thursday.

    An attorney for Biden in Arkansas declined to comment Thursday, referring all questions to Chicago attorney George Mesires. Mesires did not respond to an email and a voicemail Thursday afternoon.

    https://www.tulsi2020.com/

    • #183674

      Ohio Barbarian
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      @babel17 All of this stuff is just getting more and more tawdry by the day. The son of a presidential candidate facing revelations of an illegitimate child after being kicked out of the Navy for cocaine and then getting paid big bucks for access from seedy characters to daddy. Daddy’s rival squirming in his own corrupt swamp, populated by a cast of characters ranging from a corrupt ex-New York mayor named Rudi to two money laundering bag men named Lev and Igor trying to flee the country right after having pizza for lunch with Rudi at one of the president’s hotels.

      You just can’t make this shit up.

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      With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

      • #183732

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        @ohiobarbarian I got burned by John Edwards campaigning for the 2008 nomination when he had no business getting into the race while a scandal he had a starring role in was about to erupt. It was then that I learned that the party should have vetted him to the degree that Edwards was confronted with such an easily discovered mess.

        Maybe a real vetting did occur for Biden, and when Obama said, “Joe you don’t have to do this”, it was more like “Jesus Christ, Joe, don’t do this!!!”, as he was privy to what had been revealed. Even if he had been aware all along of what the Bidens had gotten up to, he might not have known about how clumsy they were in leaving a trail, or of Hunter’s other problems, and Obama thus would have been alarmed if the vetting team had clued him in.

        Though it’s not like he could make too big a deal out of his opposition, as Biden could still easily win, and it’s not smart to seriously piss off the next POTUS.

        https://www.tulsi2020.com/

        • #183735

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          I’ve noted quite a full-court press to pump up the Obamastalgia, especially around Michelle–and that’s Obamastalgia, not “Obamadministrationstalgia”: and it’s clearly being driven by Biden’s run and the pressure to, if not endorse, be seen with him

          they’re clearly distancing themselves, and at this point an endorsement would just drag Obama down while the DNC (and, even more, the media) prop up Warren as the last domino standing

          it’s not just about having now three human duds as his only LegacyTM, it’s about his whole image as a smooth, cosmopolitan, and above all scandal-free figure compared to that horrid Trump and all his ties to former Soviet SSRs (don’t ask us about any specifics, though–you can trust us, and after all you did give us a pass for 8 years no matter what we did: why, even the Nobel Peace Prize can be won if the committee doesn’t know why they gave it to you)

          I remember the Biden Ukraine crap 2014-16, it’s just that the media and liberal watchdogs had let themselves drowse off under the anesthetization of Obamism: the Dems jumped on this because they really thought the previous WH did nothing wrong with the putsch and the wheeler-dealing (and I won’t fucking accept being called “Trumpenleft” for having a working hippocampus)

          • #183873

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            And the China connection is starting to become a known known. “Those jobs aren’t coming back”, and then came along Sanders and Trump with promises of wiping their feet on the TPP deal proposed by Obama’s front person, Hillary Clinton.

            People now see the menace that an unchecked China poses, and then they see the story of Hunter Biden getting a friggin’ diamond from a Chinese business person, after flying to China on Air Force Two.

            What a lucky plane to fly on!

            Biden is on record/video mocking the idea that China could be a serious threat. It just now occurred to me that bringing that up at the debate is a subtle way of acknowledging that, hey, there is an elephant in the room.

            Sanders should allude to Biden’s mocking of Millennials, when he speaks of his plans to help the younger generation. Like Mike Gravel said of Biden:

            “you have a certain arrogance”

             

            https://www.tulsi2020.com/

        • #184337

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          @babel17 Well, I see a Biden nomination as Trump’s, or whichever Republican is nominated if he falls, electoral victory in 2020. I have the feeling that Obama sees that as well, but it’s just a feeling.

          I think Obama picked Biden as a sop to Wall Street in 2008. What better signal that nothing will be done to hurt them than the Senator from MBNA? Systemic, legalized corruption goes with that territory, and Obama had no objection to it. Just look at how the Obamas have cashed in after two terms of corporatism.

          We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

          With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

  • #183730

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    They don’t need to. Remind voters about his previous attempts to destroy Social security. Remind them about his Bankruptcy Bill. And so on. He will be prepared to go into full “I’m the victim here” mode at the merest suggestion about Hunter. So don’t give him the opportunity.

  • #183930

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    No Joe, people are just telling the truth about your family and you think they are attacks. Oh, how I would love for Tulsi, or even Bernie, to go after this raging hypocrite on Ukraine and China!

    All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

  • #185328

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    I think there is enough things to go after Joe Biden on his record alone (they’ve been listed already so I won’t repeat them) that it’s better to just let the Republicans do the attacking.

    American living abroad in South Korea and a proud progressive.

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