BIDEN NEEDS TO ACCEPT THAT THE US CAN’T INTIMIDATE NORTH KOREA

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    • #497990
      soryang
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      Excellent article in the Real News Network by Ju-hyun Park today.

      BIDEN NEEDS TO ACCEPT THAT THE US CAN’T INTIMIDATE NORTH KOREA
      A flurry of North Korean missile tests has captured international attention, but a longer view of US military threats and diplomatic obstinacy is missing from the picture.

      An increasingly tense standoff has been simmering on the Korean Peninsula for months, and is now escalating to a potentially “uncontrollable phase,” North Korean officials warn. Since August, the US and South Korea have conducted five major joint military exercises and numerous smaller ones—the most recent of which, Vigilant Storm, just concluded on Nov. 5 and involved over 240 military aircraft in the largest ever aerial drills the countries have conducted together.

      In the same time frame, North Korea has conducted several rounds of weapons tests involving dozens of ballistic missiles. The largest of these occurred on Nov. 2 in response to the impending Vigilant Storm exercises and reportedly involved 23 missiles, two of which landed off the east coast of South Korea, and one of which landed in waters south of the Northern Limit line, a maritime buffer zone in the Yellow Sea. This is the first time North Korean missiles have landed in waters delineated as South Korean.

      Other military exchanges have also occurred on a near-daily basis over the past two months. Barrages of US and South Korean missiles have been launched, usually without notice from Western media; hundreds of North Korean artillery rounds have been fired in military demonstrations; and both South and North Korean shows of force have occurred along the Demilitarized Zone and the Northern Limit Line.

      While similar saber-rattling has certainly occurred in Korea in the past, the frequency and intensity of these military exercises in recent weeks are part of a dangerous game of escalation that has no off-ramp. The US has no diplomatic relations with North Korea, meaning the two states lack an official channel through which they could cooperate to de-escalate the situation. This is particularly worrying as recent military exchanges at the Northern Limit Line threaten to upend the 2018 inter-Korean military agreement, which has, until recently, kept the peace in disputed maritime areas.

      https://therealnews.com/biden-needs-to-accept-that-the-us-cant-intimidat…

      The military tensions have reached a boiling point, and Biden tried to get President Xi to exercise some restraint on Kim Jong-un. That isn’t going to happen especially as the US, and South Korea hold themselves blameless in a situation they have been exacerbating with the delusion that military threats are going to intimidate North Korea.

      The article is rather lengthy but I recommend the whole thing. It’s an insightful review of US-North Korean relations and how the situation has recently become a crisis only one step away from “fire and fury.” The only thing I would change in the article is the impression that Kim walked away at Hanoi. Trump by his own admission walked away saying “sometimes you gotta walk” after John Bolton sabotaged the talks. I remember watching the video of the event later that day, and you could see Kim’s advisor from his foreign ministry, Choe Son-hui, North Korea’s expert on US affairs, chasing the American delegation down the hallway, trying to salvage something from the summit talks.

      Another dimension to this situation, has to do with Yoon’s authoritarian inclinations. I consider him a dictator in all but name. His tough on defense image is used to bolster a domestic policy that offers nothing for the average South Korean. The Korean economy is in trouble and it’s unlikely he has the ability or the ministers to fix it. He’s a Milton Friedman conservative, anti-union, and never served in the military with a bogus medical excuse. He knows nothing about business, foreign policy or the military. He’s come to power by slandering and eliminating political rivals with press cooperation by investigating and prosecuting critics and rivals on fabricated charges with his clique of corrupt prosecutors in the Public Prosecutors Offices. He has now, by non-statutory methods, achieved total control of the previously politically independent National Police Agency. To bolster his image, he moved into the former Ministry of National Defense building, rather than using the Blue House, where the National Security Command Center was located. The move resulted in scattering the service chiefs away from their former military offices and quarters on or near Yongsan and actually compromises South Korean national security and public safety. All this is a little beyond the scope of the Real News article. Yoon and his family are corrupt through and through. He needs to rule by intimidation because he is desperate to stay in power. At this point, he is the most unpopular head of state, in the so called countries with democratic values. Yoon openly admired dictator Chun Doo-hwan, and mocked people when he was forced during the campaign to apologize for it. In South Korea currently, people over 60 are the only group to support Yoon by any margin now that the South Korean public has learned what kind of person he really is mostly from independent media and MBC. The major media in South Korea concealed his modus operandi and character flaws through the campaign season and still do.

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    • #497991
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      Countries that the US is trying to order around:

      Ukraine
      Russia
      Venezuela
      Saudi Arabia
      Taiwan
      China
      Iran
      South Korea
      North Korea
      All of Europe

      I know there are more, and Biden has depleted military supplies and oil reserves.

      I hope the US realizes it can’t even support our current war of choice. It’s apparent to much of the rest of the world.

      • #497997
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        I referred to him as a quisling on brand X web site, when I disputed a recent AP News article with the standard bs about NK provocations. “So he’s working for the enemy? someone asked, “who would that enemy be?” Actually, it’s Japan from the Korean perspective. The US has gotten Yoon to kiss Japan’s butt in political terms, yet they are the historic enemy of Korea. Another response was why do you always criticize South Korea and not North Korea? I had been posting there for years, I posted very positively about Moon Jae-in’s policies virtually the entire time he was in office. In any case, English language media are virtually universally critical of North Korea. So one lone voice pointing out things that don’t fit the established propaganda since 1950 make one a communist sympathizer I guess. These are the McCarthy tactics in vogue. This is in fact what Yoon does to his critics and rivals in South Korea, accuses them of being communist sympathizers. Another comment was, “he defended China, in the South China Sea dispute too!” I feel as if I’ve been transported in some time machine to the fifties. Has nothing changed in seventy years?

        Sometimes I feel that the relatively recent moves of major US media of their Asia offices to Seoul went there to support Yoon’s bid for the presidency and US/Japan inspired policies.

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        • #497998
          jbnw
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          I was fortunate/unfortunate to be starting college after Vietnam. For a little while, it felt like peace was normal, so I always expect / hope for it. Even decades later when I am shown to be in a distinct minority.

          • #498003
            soryang
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            @jbnw I thought after the Vietnam War, that people would learn the lesson. How naive I was!

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            • #498004
              jbnw
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              young, happier and naive. Reality comes as a shock to the soul!


              @soryang

            • #498023
              A Simple Game
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              I had it too back in the ’70s after we got out of Vietnam.  I thought people would be smarter than to allow us to get into a useless war again.  Not so much anymore.  Now it turns out we are the ones playing with dominos.

              We need to somehow take the profit out of arms manufacturing.  Good luck with that huh?

    • #498005
      djean111
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      any damn thing.  Or be held accountable for any damn thing.  Biden/US government is pretty much detached now from the American people, and from any justice system in the world. That he is likely not totally cognizant of where he is or what he is doing – or, it seems to me, why the fuck he is required to do anything – exacerbates things.  I get the feeling that Biden is very angry at hving been passed over for Obama and Hillary, and is determined to show the world that he is the boss of bosses, and that is useful for his handlers and advisors.  I also get the feeling that whatever Biden/US was up to in Ukraine, they would rather see Ukraine razed to the ground than let Russia expose them to a world that seems to be taking baby steps towards dethroning the US.  Also, I think Biden/US see the rest of the world not as individual countries, but as mere profit centers and stepping stones to power.  That is the only thing that explains the US having over 900 CONFIRMED military bases in the world.  I wonder what the real number is, especially if we include things like bio-weapons facilities.

      I’m just saying Biden likely does not see North or South Korea in terms of their being individual countries with individual leaders, he just sees them as mere pawns on a board that he is entitled to control.  And that if my statement was read aloud to Congress, Congress would agree – and Congress would not see that there is anything wrong with what I said.  Congress is generally busy with its circle-jerks, with annoying election interference every two years.  Well, annoying except for the fund-raising.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

      A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

      • #498014
        jbnw
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        Well, yeah. It was apparent a year and a half ago when I first saw tanks being moved to eastern Ukraine.

        Joey ignored diplomacy and UN diplomatic actions taken when he was VP once he was in office. Now he is seeing the rest of the country destroyed, not just eastern Ukraine.

        When I visited Ukraine, it wasn’t obvious there was a civil war going on in the rest of the country.

        Now calls are with people sitting with candles for light – and I don’t know how long internet, phone systems and power banks will continue to work.

      • #498016
        soryang
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        …will go on like this something blows up, like another war (or wars), a nuke, WWIII etc. @djean111 He did ask China for help checking North Korea, so somebody somewhere must realize that all their mighty armadas and gun boat diplomacy aren’t working as desired. I suppose this is the reason there is a massive rearmament bill in the works to prepare for more war.

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