Biden’s approval at 40%, near lowest of his presidency – Reuters/Ipsos poll

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      WASHINGTON, Jan 19 (Reuters) – U.S. President Joe Biden’s public approval rating was close to the lowest level of his presidency this week amid criticism from Republicans over classified documents found in his home in recent months, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll.

      The three-day national poll, which closed on Sunday, showed 40% of Americans approved of Biden’s performance as president, versus 39% in a Reuters/Ipsos poll a month earlier.

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      Taking office in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic, Biden’s term has been marked by the economic scars of the global health crisis, including soaring inflation. Last year, his approval rating drifted as low as 36% in May and June.

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      Only 20% of respondents said they approved of U.S. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, the country’s top elected Republican official. Just 35% of respondents said they had a favorable view of the House of Representatives, and 38% said they had a positive view of the U.S. Senate.

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    • #502059
      djean111
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      What we people think is not even on their menu.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" Baelish

      VFTBNMW is, IMO, literally "take the blue pill".

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        But I suspect a relatively positive poll means that the Biden administration will read it as approval to continue to destroy the Western world.

        “Hey, Joey – look at that! People LIKE what you’re doing, so you can step it up!”

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          djean111
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          .

          America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

          "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" Baelish

          VFTBNMW is, IMO, literally "take the blue pill".

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        @OhioBarbarian,

        It is early.

        We are in January 2023. So, Election Day, next year, will not come until Tuesday, November 5, 2024.

        I will give you my sense of this (right now): Election 2024, with regard for the presidency of the United States, will more than likely end up a Democratic hold. Joe Biden. Or someone else also affiliated with the Democratic Party.

        I am considering a new topic thread in which I can go into more detail. But, here, I will mention the following: We are in a realigning period in which the presidency is dominantly (but not always) with the Democrats. (Team Blue has won three of the last four cycles. Historically, every past realigning period in which a given party won three of four cycles…that was the party of that period.) This means the following: It is the Republicans who are on the minority side of this realigning period. So…the Republicans, for their next pickup of the presidency, may have to wait until at least 2028.

    • #502060
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      Not that I distrust polls, pollsters, or sampling methods 😉

      I wonder what his approval rating is in Ukraine, which would be almost impossible to measure with such a high percentage of refugees.

      • #502063
        Ohio Barbarian
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        Simply because older people are more likely to answer the phone and are also more likely to have voted for Biden.

        Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

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          Jim Lane
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          @ohiobarbarian

          You write that “older people are more likely to answer the phone and are also more likely to have voted for Biden.”

          It’s been known for years that older people tend more Republican than the electorate as a whole. I think the GOP advantage among seniors has been declining, but it’s still there. CNN reported on a 2020 exit poll of 15,590 respondents – link – that showed Trump defeating Biden among those 65 or older, by 52% to 47%. Biden won anyway because he did much better among those age 18-29 (beating Trump by 60% to 36%) and somewhat better among the 30-44 demographic (beating Trump by 52% to 46%). Trump had a narrow advantage, 50% to 49%, among the remaining group, those age 45-64.

          So, if you believe that older people are more likely to answer the phone, then you should conclude that Biden’s approval rating is a bit higher than the poll result.

          Well, actually, there’s one other thing you have to believe to conclude that. You have to believe that professional pollsters are complete idiots who know less about their business than you do. You have to believe that pollsters just make some calls, tabulate the responses of those who answer the phone, and call it a day. In reality, of course, every professional pollster devotes a lot of time and effort to addressing such sources of inaccuracy. It’s not easy, and it can’t be done perfectly, but they do try. The most obvious tactic is to weight the responses to reflect the broader electorate. If the pollster believes that seniors will be 22% of the electorate, but finds that 33% of the responses are from seniors, then the pollster will give one-third less weight to the numbers from that group.

          • #502132
            Ohio Barbarian
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            I’ve taken them with a big grain of salt since then. I was certain Hillary would win because of the polls. Never again. To be fair to the pollsters, they are in the middle of a process to come up with more accurate sampling models, and they’re making progress.

            I must note, however, that you use the typical liberal meritocratic argument that we should trust the experts, the people with the degrees from the right places. The Biden Administration is full of them, and they are engaged in disastrous domestic and foreign policies that fit with the bullshit philosophical idealist model that they were taught. The fact is that I do know better than them, that most JPR members do, and probably you do as well, even if you won’t admit it.

            There is no meritocracy, only corruption and hegemonistic fantasies. That is why the US Empire is falling.

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            • #502143
              Jim Lane
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              @ohiobarbarian

              I didn’t say that we should always trust experts. Instead, I made two specific points:

              First, your assertion about the leanings of older voters is contradicted by the first source I found in a quick search. As I also mentioned, the pro-Republican lean of older voters is a long-established phenomenon. I could find many more sources if I thought that you or anyone else on JPR would pay attention to inconvenient facts. What you did was to make an unsupported assertion (seniors are more likely to have voted for Biden) that just so happened to fit your preconceptions. When challenged, you still don’t cite any evidence.

              Second, I didn’t call for blind obedience to experts. I said only that the experts in polling are aware of the problem of biased samples and are trying to address it. I gave one example (weighting responses).

              As to Biden’s popularity, my (inexpert) guess is that it will drop a few percentage points over the next few weeks as the Republican noise machine tries to blast him about classified documents. My further guess is that this effect will be transient and that his approval rating will go back up a few points, especially if the MAGA faction in the House makes their whole party look ridiculous.

    • #502066
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      Don’t just remember the Alamo, Mr. & Mrs. America…. Remember the millennials and Gen Z’s

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #502078
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      Like with Trump and his supporters, there could be video of him assaulting a woman but they’d still back him in a poll, because otherwise “the Communist Democrats get more power”.

      If I was waiting for a student loan I had to get paid off by Biden, then maybe I’d want to support him.

      If Biden had a VEEP that Democrats really liked, and who they thought could lead their party to a big victory in 2024, then I think Biden could be polling a notch lower.

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    • #502081
      Babel 17
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      Then show them pictures of Biden, Trump, JFK, Eisenhower, Obama, FDR, Lincoln, etc., and see how much disgust or affection each person engendered in the test subjects.

      We don’t really have machines like that which could be used for such testing, not on a mass scale and without a team of experts who could calibrate it to every person, but it’s the honesty of responses that’s the point.

      If we had such machines back in 2016 then Hillary Clinton would have been less likely to be the nominee.

      “Describe in single words, only the good things that come into your mind, about Hillary Clinton.”

      “Hillary Clinton?”

      “Yeah.”

      “Let me tell you about Hillary Clinton.”

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    • #502127
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      recently or not.  A form of controlled opposition because even at this point, his approval is @ 40% suggesting the Dems aren’t so bad.

      The Corporate Dem PR Dept. hard at work. :/

      Gag.

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