Boon-Joon Ho on foreign audience reactions to his film Parasite

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    • #379908
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      The bourgeoisie…draws all, even the most barbarian, nations into civilisation. The cheap prices of commodities are the heavy artillery with which it batters down all Chinese walls…  It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst…. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.

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      And if the way to satisfy those needs is to trade your labor for capital so you can buy them, then you are going to get sucked into Capitalism.

      However, if you agree with everyone in your social group to meet everyone’s needs, then you don’t need capitalism so much.

    • #379933
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      If you were one of the lucky few to be born to royalty, you were also born to wealth and power.

      When raiding the churches and foreign countries and grabbing up a lot of their wealth failed to bring to these royals mass sums of riches anymore (and the mass of people started revolting and not doing what they were told) the royals switched to capitalism.

      Feudalism was crumbling so the royals grabbed onto capitalism in order to keep their wealth and power.

      For a long time slavery and capitalism went hand in hand especially in America. This allowed masters, royals and capitalist kings to keep their nation’s wealth. Much like they kept their serfs’ and peasants’ wealth created by other’s labor.

      I’ve actually heard arguments that capitalism required feudalism to precede it in order to develop. In fact capitalism was sold as a more equitable economic system because it does not rely on inheritance and gives everyone with capital an equal chance. Of course that is Not true. But it sounds good on the surface.

      What they fail to mention is only people who inherit leftover capital from dead relatives are equal. The rest of us are scrambling for the crumbs of capital remaining by using our labor to obtain it. But no matter how hard you labor, you will never accumulate as much capital as those born with it.

      We need to evolve out of capitalism into a more equitable economic system.

      • #379939
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        you can accumulate more capital than those born with it.  If you can learn to put your pocket between those who have a computer, but need an operating system to make it work, you can become the world’s richest man.  If you can wiggle your way into being a fountain of capital (running a bank) you can do better than the wealthy heir who burns through his inheritance.  If you can convince enough people that working a part-time job with no benefits is to their benefit, then you can keep the excess over what you pay them and become a billionaire.

        Capitalism does pay off, but only to those who firmly follow its antisocial rules.

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      it’s the democracy movement that drove the legacy corrupt authoritarians represented by Park Geun-hye government from power on one side. The other side are the chaebol corporate network elite families, and their corrupt adherents in the media, prosecution offices, judiciary and medical community. The leader of the latter at this point is the Prosecutor General Yoon Seok-yeol who effectively operates as a William Barr on steroids, prosecuting democratic political leaders with perjured testimony, forged documents, and fake news leaked to a collaborating media dominated by conservative cartels. He also protects chaebol and corrupt judges, prosecutors and politicians on the right from criminal complaints, investigations, legal process and prosecution. It’s the last stand of corrupt crony capitalism in South Korea. If it weren’t for the public health restrictions due to the covid epidemic it would already be over as millions of democratic supporters and labor are ready to take to the streets again.

      Yoon Seok-yeol, current Prosecutor General of South Korea. Yoon is the current leading contender on the right to be a candidate for president of South Korea. His character and track record demonstrates that if he becomes president of South Korea it will return to an authoritarian form of government.

      Other Korea watchers are giving credence to polls which contend to show Yoon Seok-yeol whose family, wife and mother in law in particular are notoriously corrupt, has approval ratings of approximately 40 percent with respect to support for the next presidential run. This is hard to believe. His largest constituency other than the crony capitalists and professional elites are the Christian evangelical right. It’s feast or famine with Yoon Seok-yeol and his corrupt right wing legions, he’ll either become president in 2022 or go to prison for a long time like the two previous conservative presidents, Park Geun-hye and Lee Myung-bak.

    • #380004
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      “His largest constituency other than the crony capitalists and professional elites are the Christian evangelical right.”

      Is the christian evangelical right a large constituency in S Korea @soryang?

      • #380012
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        @coldmountaintrail

        Christianity has deep roots in South Korea. There are two varieties, the crazy cult type, and the standard variety congregations. Sincheonji and Love First Church, two of the cults are far right evangelical groups, were responsible for large clusters and spread of the covid epidemic in South Korea. These sorts of evangelicals are not unusual in the Korean community. At some point a congregation drifts away from orthodox beliefs and descends into a personality cult. These far right Christian groups tend to be allied with neo-fascist paramilitary like the Taeguki (s.korean flag) organization who bring provocateurs and thugs to demonstrations.

        There seemed to some element of restraint or differentiation among the far right evangelicals demonstrated in the Aug 15 anti-Moon Jae-in demonstration. Only about 30,000 people showed up (in my estimate). They claimed they would get a million plus. Some experts even anticipated a few hundred thousand sized demo similar to the April 2020 demos shut down by government public health restrictions after the fact.

        (Source- 뉴스반장 Aug. 14 ) Pastor Jeon Gwang-hun, (left) leader of the controversial right wing evangelical Christian Council of Korea. Last January Jeon was found guilty of ten charges of violation of public election laws involving illegal fund raising. He was released on bail April 20 pending hearings on appeal. One of the conditions of bail was that he not attend political assemblies. He claimed that the covid epidemic, hundreds of positive cases in his congregation, and his contraction of the virus were a result of a plot by “dictator Moon Jae-in,” the South Korean president. He didn’t comply with bail conditions and went back to jail.

        The illegal August 15 demonstration led by Pastor Jeon of the First Love Church mustered a far lower number. Many conventional Christian organizations condemned his actions and regarded him as a renegade religious figure. It was these denunciations and public health ramifications that lowered the turnout. He has been in and out of jail, and in the past was publicly supported by Na Kyung-won and Hwang Kyo-ahn, powerful leaders of the conservative party who both lost their elections to the National Assembly in April. It is rumored that Na, if she can avoid prosecution, will run for the powerful position of Mayor of Seoul, for the misnamed  conservative People Power Party. In a play on words, leftist pundits refer to it as the people’s burden or people’s spit party.  ( 국민의 힘당 v.  국민의 짐당 v. 국민의 침당 )   Government investigation revealed that Sincheonji had over 300,000 adherents.   Jeon’s congregation is much smaller.   How many followers he has in the Christian Council of Korea is unknown.

        Thanks for the question, I enjoyed going over my notes.  I’ve been following South Korean politics since the candlelight revolution in 2017, and like to study Korean affairs, culture language, etc.

         

    • #380014
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      Thank you for the info @soryang

      I knew there was probably something, but had no idea how extensive.

      • #380016
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        I don’t pretend to know all of it.   I’m sure everyone remembers Sun-myung Moon’s Unification Church  rumored to be a KCIA/CIA front.   Moon bought the Washington Times at one point.

        The Tonghak uprising in the late 19th Century was a reform movement aiming to end the exploitation of slaves and other serfs by the ruling class in Korea.  This was a unusual synthesis of Christian, shamanistic and political beliefs resulting in a powerful rebellion that was ultimately suppressed.

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