CA recall election: any chance of no fraud?

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      MackMarkstein
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      Not much chance.
      We already know this for example, and just for fun, it involves the MyPillow guy:

      One of the more valuable items mentioned in the Twitter thread is that even a 1% audit of random alleged ballots post-election is usually not enough (mathematically) to detect fraud if present.

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      MackMarkstein
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      Most likely election fraud has mostly been carried out by sophisticated people: consultants, spooks, maybe Mossad for one: I doubt Russia and China. But Mr. Pillow and Magatts getting involved in trying to ferret it out or to do it (or to improve how they are doing it): Bound to be clumsy and they might even get caught….if not for the corruption and apathy of Secretaries of State, especially in places like California. It is a tradition there: Sec. of State not wanting to look too thoroughly at election goings-on. As Bob Dylan once said in song, “I’m gonna investigate myself. Hope I don’t find nuthin!”

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      salemcourt
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      Also caught people stealing mail ballots.

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      Just how much is the question, and that’s hard to say without a full audit matching any ballot receipts with the results the computers spit out. After what happened to Nina Turner in my district, not to mention what happened to Bernie Sanders in March, I have no faith in valid vote-counts whatsoever.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      D503
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      Aren’t most of the candidates frauds? So, no not much chance.

       

      "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Asimov; "If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." - Fud's First Law of Opposition

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      doh1304
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        Satan
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        It really wouldn’t surprise me. She’s as much of a California resident as she was a New York resident in 2000. Considering there’s no requirement of an actual majority, this might actually be one election she could win without cheating. Hell, if she wins just the votes of the Hollywood elite & the Pelosi/Feinstein fanclub in SF, that’s probably more votes than Larry Elder would get.

        "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

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          doh1304
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          but CA did award an election to Hillary the day before the polling , and in SF Willie Brown announced the final vote total 10 minutes before the polls closed. (disclaimer, he was 4 votes off)

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      They played one on CBS This Morning today. OTOH, Obama wouldn’t do it if he thought the recall would really pass, so, the fix may be in. Or not. It is California, after all.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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