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    • #11657
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      Vanity Fair article:

      The echoes of the 2016 G.O.P. primary are clear. But one strategist suggested that if Dems fall flat, it’ll be their own fault. “The Democrats have the endless capacity to select the wrong candidate, to select the wrong message,” he said. “[They] are horrifically terrible at politics.”

      BY  TINA NGUYEN  –  JULY 24, 2018 5:08 PM

      In the early days of 2015, Hillary Clinton’s aides sat down to map out a battle plan targeting her inevitable Republican opponent. Though the field on the right was saturated, Clinton’s strategists saw this as a boon: “The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right,” they wrote in a memo to the Democratic National Committee. “In this scenario, we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party. . . . We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are the leaders of the pack.” By highlighting the outliers, they hoped to take advantage of the deep schism between the far-right and centrist factions of the G.O.P., ultimately producing a candidate so extreme as to be unpalatable to the general electorate. Topping the list of “Pied Piper” candidates was Donald Trump—the ultimate outlier, but one that Clinton—like the Russians—hoped could be a useful idiot.

      Of course, that’s not how things played out. The untested billionaire tore a hole in the electorate, winning over a raging segment of populist-nationalists and leaving the 16 other primary candidates squabbling over the rest of the delegates. Instead of the easy victory that Democrats imagined as front-runners like Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio dropped out one by one, an amalgamation of factors ultimately allowed Clinton’s weapon of choice to overcome her, too.

      Now, with Trump firmly ensconced in the White House, Republican operatives are hoping to use the Democrats’ own tactics against them. Though they’re readying the traditional cache of opposition research, compiling binders of damaging biographical details about possible candidates such as Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, as well as private-sector names like Howard Schultz and Mark Cuban, Politico reports that G.O.P. strategists are also banking on their ability to pit centrist Democratic candidates against far-left progressives, in the hopes that voters will come to associate the Democratic Party with more radical politics: universal health care, free college, and, of course, abolishing Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. America First, a pro-Trump super PAC, has already coined a hashtag for the effort: #RaceToTheLeft….


      Remember when the DNC and Clinton campaign thought is would be a great idea to elevate Trump with a pied piper campaign because they thought he was so horrible? And still Clinton fans try to blame everyone else for Trump’s winning while ignoring that their Hillary and the DNC were one of the major reasons Trump won the GOP nomination:



      Now the same strategy could come back to be used on Democrats. Way to go DNC. Way to go….


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    • #11739
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      No–there will bee too many candidates this time.

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      Until we get rid of Pay for Play government AND big biz…nothing will change.

      I will vote for Bernie and push others to vote for him, however both parties will jump on the establishment bandwagon to keep him down by constant smears. Really we are in some deep sh*t since the DNC decided NOT to play fair and said they will not do so anytime in the future. The RNC pretends social-ism is the Third Reich incarnate.

      This is a good time for a third party or more. The fault of two parties and capitalism is a fatal flaw we are sinking on. Right now, not decades from now. Right now.




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      They don’t have to. The DNC will rig it for them. They will find a way to split the left vote and push a pro-establishment candidate that accepts identity politics. And then they blow the election by purposely ignoring half the country.

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      Jerry is essentially right. The GOP strategy (if I were a GOP strategist ) would be to flood the market with “centrist” candidates, then let the truth of rampant, overwhelming corruption come out like water from a garden hose. The Democratic leadership will then publicly rig the process and nominate the most blatantly corrupt candidate or blatantly sabotage “their own”.

      I see no way to prevent this from happening except to euthanize this rotting corpse of a party ASAP.

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      Bernie did indeed ‘pull the DP to the left in 2016’. His progressive ideas have much more support now than they did when he entered the primary.

      That popularity of Bernie and his progressive ideas surprised the DNC in 2016. They will surprise the RNC in 2020. Conservatives (whether of the DNC or GOP variety) still think that hanging “universal health care, free college”, progressive taxes, a Green New Deal, less income inequality, etc. are albatrosses that they can hurt the genuine left with.

      I hope they keep thinking that.

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      This kind of article, IMO, is designed to try and make people get all protective of the DNC/Democratic Party and resolve to vote Democrat no matter what, just to spite the GOP.  Bwahahahaha!  In actuality, the DNC/Democratic Party is not only just as crooked – if not more, because the DNC lies about what it wants to achieve – but the DNC has openly stated, in court documents, that it is a private corporation and has the right to name any candidate it wants to, regardless of the primaries.  The primaries for the Democratic Party are nothing more than money-making pep rallies, the DNC feels it has the right to rig the outcome, thinking we all will vote for a corporate Democrat anyway.  NOPE.    Not to mention that the DNC plotted to have Trump win the GOP nomination.  Every time I think the DNC/Democratic Party owners have sunk as low as they can get – they sink even lower.

      If the GOP was going to rig the Democratic primaries, IMO they would push for the most disgusting corporate Democrat there is – a pretty wide field, really.  But – IMO, the DNC is ALREADY going to rig their primaries, so – who the fork cares?

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