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    • #392271
      ZimInSeattle
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      The storming of the Capitol may just be a harbinger of things to come.

      By Joe Lauria
      Special to Consortium News

      With the normalization of mass shootings in the United States it is more than understandable that members of Congress feared for their lives when they learned protestors had forced their way into the Capitol in unknown numbers and were roaming around at will.

      But by the time it was over we knew that: only five weapons were seized by police so most of the intruders were probably unarmed; the only shots fired were by police who killed an unarmed female protestor; video and photos showed the demonstrators taking pictures of chambers and art work like they were tourists; and the occupiers were peacefully led out of the Capitol six hours later.  (Had they been anti-racism protestors one wonders how differently it would have ended.)

      A dramatic event such as this is an old-time reporter’s dream, to just describe the facts and details as they emerged, painting a picture in words in print or on the radio. With so many mobile phone pictures and video as well as TV cameras everywhere, that journalistic function has been greatly diminished if not extinguished. In its place are preaching, partisan, editorialists masquerading as mainstream journalists.

      By the time it was over it was clear what had not happened:  it wasn’t a “coup,” it wasn’t an “insurrection,” it had nothing to do with Putin, or China or Iran and it wasn’t like Pearl Harbor, as Sen. Chuck Schumer ridiculously tried to call it.

      More: https://consortiumnews.com/2021/01/07/capitol-incident-a-dress-rehearsal/

      "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK #SurviveAndRevolt

    • #392276
      ThouArtThat
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      @ziminseattle

      Hi zim,

      From the article emphasis added …

      It was in some ways the downtrodden forcing their existence into the faces of an elitist Congress who serve very powerful interests instead.

      But it was also the delusive manipulation of desperate people by Donald Trump, a master manipulator who for his own interests has somehow convinced millions of Americans that he is their champion whose re-election was stolen from them, even when it is doubtful their lives were much improved over the past four years.

      What this event did is send a message, which went beyond claims of a stolen election, a message that no one in Congress or the media will openly acknowledge, if they’ve gotten the message at all, namely, that as long as Congress and the rest of the Establishment continue to ignore ordinary Americans’ interests and serve only their own, the anger and the desperation in the land will explode, rendering Wednesday’s events merely a dress rehearsal for what may well turn into a full-blown insurrection.  Congress must understand this before it’s too late.

      Sadly, one suspects – really knows – the Oligarchs, Corporations and Banks and their political lackeys and minions will only double down as Biden/Harris have said – nothing will change.  And that double down will plant the seeds for more protest, civil war and revolution.  The 1% have a choice to make.  And we will witness that outcome one way or another.

      TAT

      “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
      - John F. Kennedy

      "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
      - George Orwell

      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
      - Jiddu Krishnamurti

      "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
      - Idries Shah

      "A riot is the language of the unheard."
      - Martin Luther King

      • #392296
        GZeusH
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        This witness is going to make some popcorn and take it all in.

      • #392303
        ozoneman
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        “It was in some ways the downtrodden forcing their existence into the faces of an elitist Congress who serve very powerful interests instead.”

        This is really how Trump got elected and what the neoliberals fail to realize or acknowledge.

        I remember seeing a GNP map of voters for Hillary vs. Trump in 2016 and Biden vs. Trump in 2020. The disparity grew from 69/31 in 2016 to 70/30 in 2020. That is an amazing statistic. The poor flyover states elected Trump with 30% of the GNP.

        It was really Bernie’s perfect situation, being a working class hero, but the DNC minions took him down twice.

        • #392305
          Cold Mountain Trail
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          “the downtrodden”

          some of them may be downtrodden, but the ones ID’d so far don’t seem to be so much.

          e.g. the woman who was shot, 14-year AF veteran likely has some kind of pension, health care, etc.

          likewise the actor who regularly appears at various protests (on both sides of the fence) appears to be in good health & have a gym membership (judging from his physique).  Also $$ for a lot of nice tattoo work, which ain’t that cheap.

          We have people living on the streets everywhere, tell them about downtrodden

          not to say that congress, all sides of the aisle, don’t serve the powerful, they do

          but the downtrodden aren’t breaking into the capitol building, they are outside trying to stay warm and fed

          • #392309
            ThouArtThat
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            @coldmountaintrail

            Hi cmt,

            US Navy Veteran here – 14 service years does not earn one a military pension.  Please check your facts before making unsubstantiated statements.

            TAT

            “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
            - John F. Kennedy

            "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
            - George Orwell

            "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
            - Jiddu Krishnamurti

            "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
            - Idries Shah

            "A riot is the language of the unheard."
            - Martin Luther King

            • #392336
              Cold Mountain Trail
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              “pension of some kind”

              perhaps my loose language, but I believe there is some kind of continuing ‘benefit’ available after a given # of years.  perhaps i am misinformed & its just tricare.  or perhaps my knowledge (which comes from the era when they phased out full medical, approx 30-odd years ago) is out of date.

               

              • #392346
                ThouArtThat
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                @coldmountaintrail

                Hi cmt,

                Yes – you are misinformed.  As a former US Navy Officer with 4 years active service and 4 years inactive service, I receive no benefits form the US Government related to my military service..  A military pension with associated health benefits is conferred upon completion of 20 years of service.  Those health insurance benefits include a program called TriCare.

                TAT

                “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
                - John F. Kennedy

                "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
                - George Orwell

                "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
                - Jiddu Krishnamurti

                "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
                - Idries Shah

                "A riot is the language of the unheard."
                - Martin Luther King

            • #392343
              PolecatHollerer
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              .

              If you give a man enough rope, it will be six inches too short. This is not the nature of rope- it is the nature of man.

            • #392503
              Hobbit709
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              if she got some kind of disability discharge. But not just from 14 years service.

              I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing.

    • #392288
      rudycantfail
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      with an excellent news source, both having long track records of getting the important stories right instead of uncritically repeating the establishment media hysteria narrative.

    • #392292
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      “the only shots fired were by police who killed an unarmed female protestor”

      Secret Service more likely as the shooter(s) fired from inside Congressional chamber and in plainclothes.

    • #392321
      Ohio Barbarian
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      It was an insurrection, an attempt to overthrow the government, but it wasn’t terrorism, which is to inflict terror on civilian populations in order to advance some ideological or political cause. Civilians weren’t being attacked. Cops and congresscritters aren’t civilians, and this wasn’t a civilian target.

      So Joe Biden just lied again by calling this Capitol Riot as an act of domestic terrorism. It’s that simple. Besides, I don’t want Biden drone-striking anyone within the United States, and if he succeeds in calling this terrorism, he’ll do just that–on Black Lives Matter.

      Anyway, things really are bad, and getting worse. People are hurting, angry, and increasingly desperate. The only thing that can save this government is for it to substantially and quickly improve people’s material lives, which it could easily do, and people know that. Even these Trumper rioters know that.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

      • #392347
        PolecatHollerer
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        A failed & pointless insurrection, but an insurrection nonetheless.

        If you give a man enough rope, it will be six inches too short. This is not the nature of rope- it is the nature of man.

      • #392474
        mrdmk
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        But Congress is paid not to get it. Hell, they are making good money right now, why can’t everyone else. That is the mentality right now.

        If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

      • #392703
        peacecorps
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        Fortunately, Trump is too old and too disorganized to accomplish anything like that. But let’s not assume that one failed attempt by the far-right is the end of the story. There are younger, smarter fascists out there.

        The Big Lie: "Make the lie big, Make it simple, Keep saying it, And eventually they will believe it." AH.

        "Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect." JG

        National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not solved with more nationalism.

        • #392710
          Ohio Barbarian
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          This country can go in several directions. It can also fly apart in several directions. Things are bad, and getting worse.

          It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

          You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #392372
      HassleCat
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      I saw several of the rioters interviewed on TV and they said they couldn’t wait to go back and do it again. They are saving our county from socialism, Satan, Democrats, etc.

    • #392455
      roody
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      All that gear is expensive. So is travel. The downtrodden are home trying to care for their families.

    • #392476
      Fasttense
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      They were following the badly organised plans of an elected president. Trump is the epitome of the establishment.

      He pays no taxes. He was born into wealth. He made sure the filthy rich were given our tax dollars when the pandemic hit.

      This was no insurrection against the establishment. It was organized by the establishment. The filthy rich did this. That’s why these stupid people were so gently treated.

      This was not the down trodden starving serfs attacking the Bastille. This was King Louis leading a well fed privileged Nobel class to attack the National Assembly.

      These white people were nice and fat, dressed warmly, full of excess energy…enough to beat up on each other. They were gently and carefully coddled by the establishment in an effort to enthrone King Trump…..an easier tool for the filthy rich capitalists to manipulate than hundreds of congress people.

      An attempt to enthrone a king is not the revolt of the downtrodden. It is just the opposite.

       

    • #392478
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      “That’s why these stupid people were so gently treated”

      +++

    • #392560
      MizzGrizz
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      .Donald Trump lit a match to some grievances that have been simmering for a long time.

      We’ve all known since 2000 that elections aren’t fair.We watched George steal Ohio in 2004 and nothing was done.We watched at least three Senate seats (Georgia in 2002,Kentucky in 2016 and 2020)get stolen and two National Democratic primaries.Twit Romney would have won in 2012 if somebody hadn’t flipped the computers back,because Karl Rove thought he’d stolen the state again.

      You think Trump voters weren’t watching that,too?

      The previous elections,not to mention the sore loser way the Democrats carried on when THEY lost to Trump,made the Donald’s voters ripe for believing something funny was going on.

      And people have had it with being snubbed,belittled,denigrated and ignored because they preferred a different con man than the con man the elites liked.

      Put enough pressure on something,it breaks.The pressure got to those people and they reacted as people throughout history have.

      Ask the folks in St.Petersburg,1905,about what happened when the lumpenproletariat couldn’t take any more.

      • #396219
        roody
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        These rioters know nothing about election integrity and are oblivious to the election theft of the last 21 years.  Where were they when the primary was stolen from Bernie twice?

    • #396350
      Earthartist
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      So true miss grizz.   Or if is wasn’t my team it didn’t happen.     Team R and Team D.     I suspect this whole thing was more about that then anything else, and I mean the people that let it happen.

      Earthartist

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