China will crush dissent in Hong Kong, just as it did in Tiananmen Square Ma Jian

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      To commemorate the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre last year, I posted a photograph online of a night scene showing the mass hunger strike that took place there. It was taken by a friend of mine in May 1989 from the roof of Beijing’s Museum of Chinese History. He allowed me to share it as long as his identity was concealed, knowing that in China, this visual testament to a still taboo event could land him in jail.

      A year on from the 30th anniversary, as the Chinese Communist party’s tyranny endangers lives and freedoms across the world, the photograph and the suppressed truth it embodies are even more significant.

      For 31 years, the CCP has buried the truth about Tiananmen. In 1989 it branded the nationwide peaceful pro-democracy movement a “counter-revolutionary riot”, and on 4 June, sent tanks to clear the square, then crush and gun down unarmed citizens in the surrounding streets. It said the massacre was essential for China’s future order and prosperity. It claimed only 241 people died, when unofficial estimates are many times higher. Then it outlawed any further mention of the event.

      Bernie figured he could do more good ALIVE,
      than dead in a small plane "accident".
      I think he's right.

      Don't you?

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      The thing is HK’s issues are not connected to China. Hong Kong’s issues are created by the British monarchy and land power. So the powers that be in Hong Kong own all the land they are Hong Kongese.this means the price of real estate and rents is so high that people live in unbearable conditions.  The second thing that makes HK very different is,  it’s no longer  the biggest trade center in Asia.  So while people can’t afford to live their the economy is also failing.  The first time I went to Honk Kong was the year it went back to China. It was a great place to go and get out of Taiwan where we lived. 10 years later it was still a pretty fun city but to many luxury malls everywhere.  That has not changed. China is going  to continue the same path it has it doesn’t need to do anything else.  The bill that just went through, is one that many countries have it will prevent the US and Britain from using propaganda on the people it will prevent the Us and Britain from financially supporting riots and it will prevent these two countries from flying organizers to the US to consult.   The Chinese are not perfect but they have and are working to eliminate poverty, they are putting in massive infrastructure, They give both education and very cheap healthcare. It is easy for us to condemn other countries because this is all we hear out of our government and media but I will tell you my experience in asia is I often felt safer then almost any where in the US. The police in China and Taiwan and Hong Kong are much less violent then in our country.  The protests in HK the police killed no one the rioters killed 2 old men. Racism toward Chinese natives was horrific.


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      Though I do not support the Chinese government, I would be wary of anything put out by the Guardian.  They are well known for spreading state propaganda.  Also, the author writes only negative articles about China and does not write any negative articles about British rule in Hongkong or any of the atrocities in other countries.  He moved to UK when Hongkong got transferred to China

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      only after causing much damage to the lives of the rest of us. Chinese authoritarians are not different from any others. Public protest and dissent are not welcome in the least.

      National problems (slavery/racism, income inequality, pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not solved with more national sovereignty.

      A CEO, an American worker and an immigrant sit at a table with a dozen cookies in front of them. The CEO grabs 11 of them, then leans over and warns the worker, "Watch out for the immigrant. He is trying to get your cookie."

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