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    Cornel West disappointed about Bernie's Convergence cold shoulder

    With the horrific weather this past week, I did not know that Bernie did not even bother to have someone receive the petition at the Peoples Convergence Conference this weekend! If you want to skip to Dr. Wests sharp criticism of Bernie (which I TOTALLY agree with) it is at the 3:55 mark. This was almost as disappointing as when he supported HER. But at least I saw that coming.

     

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    “The first revolution is when you change your mind about how you look at things, and see there might be another way to look at it that you have not been shown. What you see later on is the results of that, but that revolution, that change that takes place will not be televised.” -Gil Scott-Heron

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  • leftcoastmountains (2984 posts)
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    1. Not surprised.

    Just finished listening to Cornel. Great speech!

    #CalExit #Trumpdoesn'tpaytaxeswhyshouldwe
    • NJOCK (570 posts)
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      5. It sure was!

      Damn, I would love to sit down with him for a beverage and just talk. It would be amazing.

      “The first revolution is when you change your mind about how you look at things, and see there might be another way to look at it that you have not been shown. What you see later on is the results of that, but that revolution, that change that takes place will not be televised.” -Gil Scott-Heron
  • Phlem (594 posts)
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    2. Welp, we might have to move on w/o him, all's I know is

    You can’t unring the bell he rang.

    We keep moving forward. That’s what he would want. And really, we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes so it’s hard to say if he’s being pressured or not.

    Regardless, we keep moving forward.

    He gave us the direction and it’s always been up to us to get there.

    • NJOCK (570 posts)
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      4. As soon as I saw this a few hours ago

      I immediately came to JPR, made sure it was not up already, and somewhat angrily posted it. Now that my kids are in bed and my mind is not clouded with back to school chaos, I have to say I completely agree with you Phlem.

      I did not want to believe that Bernie has this tremendous mojo of support for a third party(unlike anything I have ever seen before in my life)

      …and he is going to stay and try to fix the Dems. I hope one day we find out wtf happened behind the scenes. But now it is time to move on without him.

      As far as a third party and Bernie goes….

      What’s that old line from a movie or tv show?

      “He’s just not that into us.”

      “The first revolution is when you change your mind about how you look at things, and see there might be another way to look at it that you have not been shown. What you see later on is the results of that, but that revolution, that change that takes place will not be televised.” -Gil Scott-Heron
      • Phlem (594 posts)
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        6. I hear ya brother, and thank you for the kind words.

        You know, I don’t know the specifics about what’s going on.

        He could be totally into us but just can’t do it in the media. He’s having to deal with what’s being said about him in the media, and the last words out of Shillary, at least today according to the internets, where he left some kind of lasting damage on the party. She’s working him as we all knew she would.

        We can’t be distracted anymore which is pretty much the MO of both parties.

        Focus and run it through the goal posts.

        It’s not about party anymore but about humanity, of which we are all part of.

        Peace my friend and “Forever Vigilant”. :)

    • Xyzse (3093 posts)
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      13. I agree. Sanders also knows that he is not the movement.

      The movement is the same one that gave us Occupy Wall-Street, and has been building up for decades now.  Sanders merely became an icon for that movement as he filled the void of leadership.  As such, the movement is more than willing to look for other leaders if Sanders does not wish to step up to that plate.

      I think that is the misconception Democrats have at the moment.  Sanders has no control of this movement whatsoever.  The movement loves Sanders since they have similar goals at this time, once the goals are not aligned however, well, I am sure it will go on without him.

  • A little weird (602 posts)
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    3. I don't think it's a secret that he wants to reform the party not abandon it

    I don’t know that I agree with him on that but I can kind of understand.  His popularity right now gives him more clout than he’s probably ever had before.  If he just abandons the democratic party I imagine that’s out the door.  If I were in his shoes, I might do the same as him.  But it would be nice if he at least addressed the issue.

    • NJOCK (570 posts)
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      7. It's just so damn frustrating ALW.

      Sometimes JPR is some kind of therapy for me. Even if people disagree with whatever hideous thing I say.

      “The first revolution is when you change your mind about how you look at things, and see there might be another way to look at it that you have not been shown. What you see later on is the results of that, but that revolution, that change that takes place will not be televised.” -Gil Scott-Heron
      • Haikugal (5799 posts)
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        10. You aren't alone in feeling that way NJOCK…

        both in the frustration and how this place is such a respite.

          Be the bird.....       Hey DNC! Up Yours! It's ON!! Kick against the pricks!!!
    • Pangolino (290 posts)
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      8. It might even give him some leverage.

      I mean, if he had someone there to accept the signatures, and sent along thanks, what’s wrong with Dems being worried? That’s what I don’t get.

      "What do you want, the destruction of the world just so you can get the satisfaction of seeing Trump flying away in a helicopter?" - Glen Ford, Left Forum 2017
  • PADemD (1139 posts)
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    9. Single-Payer Medicare for All

    Bernie is focused on getting single-payer Medicare for all passed right now.  How much cooperation would he get from Democrats if he indicated he was going to go third party?

    • hopemountain (2187 posts)
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      11. and he would be censored from appearing in the media, too

      also, bernie, i believe, sees the grassroots seeding and building the revolution. this way, it will learn to stand on it’s on with or without him and us for generations to come.

      "economic and environmental justice is spiritual work." ~ tom b. k. goldtooth ....
      • NJOCK (570 posts)
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        12. the media would try to "shun" him

        but because of the great demand for a third party, I don’t think they would be able to ignore the story for long. Not with the crowds that he would bring out and the votes he would take away from the Dems and “R”s

        “The first revolution is when you change your mind about how you look at things, and see there might be another way to look at it that you have not been shown. What you see later on is the results of that, but that revolution, that change that takes place will not be televised.” -Gil Scott-Heron
        • BeeBeeoh (7 posts)
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          15. the media has already shunned him

          They almost completely ignored him throughout the campaign cycle.  News still got out.  It’d definitely be better if they covered him in proportion to what he’s doing, but the media that has or would shun him is irrelevant to millions of people.

  • mmonk (1661 posts)
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    14. To me, it's not about a politician. It's always been movement with me.