CoronaVirus: What Is REALLY Going On ??? – Friday Night… Need (Conspiracy) Theories – I'm Thinking, Culling The Herd

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    • #290350
      WillyT
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      There are a couple of problems with that theory…

      1. It is obviously out of control. “Their” families are at risk too.
      2. Today there was an article saying that in deaths, more men are being killed, than women. Won’t comment further.

      But their are so many articles where you go WTF, that you start wondering if there is anything of purpose here.

      I tend to doubt it, yet I may be surprised, but I won’t be shocked..,.

      Sorry if I stir up shit… It’s Friday and I could use a grin.

      :hi:

       

    • #290352
      elias39
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      but they don’t seem to be too popular around here.

      It’s the new Darwinism – survival of the richest. And it’s not accidental IMHO.

      That’s all for now.

      Hace a good night Willy T

    • #290354
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      With Wuhan, China being the epicenter of the world-wide coronavirus, I’ve read or seen some commentary correlating that with the first city to be totally G-5, which I guess is supposed to imply that wireless frequencies can lower the immune system after a while… Hey… I had someone tell me today that the G in this case is for gullible….

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #290355
      Yanath
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      I can’t possibly know where the virus came from, but the promotion of the mass-hysteria is clearly a psy-op on the US public, to distract from the economic meltdown, which has been widely expected, and to confuse and disorient everyone, while they implement their agenda of reorganizing our economic system.

      • #290381
        joentokyo
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        @yanath

        Your theory sounds very plausible to me.

        “A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves” ~ French philosopher Bertrand de Jouvenel (1903-1987)

    • #290356
      NV Wino
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      I think something got out of hand. And, it is culling the herd. Whether that was the intention is the question.

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

    • #290357
      ThouArtThat
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      @willyt

      Hi willyt,

      Best to break the question into two parts: Outbreak & Response.

      As far as Outbreak goes, the best theory heard to date is medical research gone bad.  The Wuhan Institute of Virology is China’s only biosafety level 4 laboratory (BSL-4).  The institute has been conducting coronavirus research for years and many of the virologists have collaborated with American colleagues.  The theory goes that one of their virus strains jumped species to humans which then made its way to the broader Wuhan population.  In other words, very poor laboratory methods and procedures.

      Graphic Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level#Biosafety_level_4

      Wuhan Institute of Virology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology

      Theory on the virus breakout: https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of-the-origins-of-the-wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov/

      As far as Response goes, that is much more open ended and one can conceive of all manner of “Bad Actors” itching to leverage a bad situation to their benefit.  Let your imagination run wild and it will probably land somewhere plausible.

      TAT

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    • #290358
      David the Gnome
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      There was a thread, yesterday I think, that talked about how the coronavirus basically appeared a month after there was this massive sort of “rehearsal” for how to handle a coronavirus pandemic.  There are may ways to explain the coincidence, but I don’t know, I find the timing to be suspect.  Here it is:

      https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/china-locked-in-hybrid-war-with-us/
      Credit to @ziminseattle for the post

      Another, from @elias39
      https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/so-was-covid-19-brewed-up-at-fort-detrick/

      When it comes to military labs it is very easy to be suspicious of just about everything.  When it comes to the CIA – or people like Bill Gates, it is also easy.  Do we know the whole story of what really happened?  Probably not.  Was it a conspiracy designed to released a pandemic – to deliberately infect the global population?  I don’t know – I think incompetence is more likely.  It may have been created in a lab, either here or in China – and then some idiot didn’t follow protocol, they had a little whoopsie – and bam, pandemic.  What would happen next would be the coverup.  While China and the US both accuse each other of starting this, I think it was most likely accidental, even if its origins are in a lab in Wuhan or Fort Detrick.  Can’t say for sure, of course.

      A lot are thinking that governments are using this as an excuse to crack down on what they call “populism”, to seize more power and control – authority, basically (make America a police state – well, more of one).  That may be true as well.  As for any fully baked conspiracy theories though… I haven’t got one yet, but I’m working on it.

      • #290362
        Yanath
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        it will be used, @davidthegnome, as an excuse to pass repressive legislation, reorganize our economics for the benefit of the elites, and to further entrench the establishment power system.

      • #290463
        lownslow
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        Adding all that to the fact that coronavirus genome variations in Iran and Italy were sequenced and it was revealed they do not belong to the variety that infected Wuhan, Chinese media are now openly  asking questions and drawing a connection with the shutting down in August last year of the “unsafe” military bioweapon lab at Fort Detrick, the Military Games, and the Wuhan epidemic. Some of these questions had been asked – with no response – inside the US itself.

        Extra questions linger about the opaque Event 201in New York on October 18, 2019: a rehearsal for a worldwide pandemic caused by a deadly virus – which happened to be coronavirus. This magnificent coincidence happened one month before the outbreak in Wuhan.

    • #290360
      elias39
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      that Soleimani was assassinated in early Jan knowing that the Iranian people would fill the streets with mourners etc. Much easier to get a seed to sprout when the crowd is huge. Yeah, conspiratorial but it also makes a certain sense. I haven’t heard any explanation as to why it was China and IRAN – that were the hardest hit. Iran is a long way from Wuhan.

    • #290369
      mrdmk
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      That will keep you busy for a while 🙂

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

    • #290377
      ZimInSeattle
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      "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK #SurviveAndRevolt

    • #290457
      Pam2
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      Should this be moved to Creative Speculation?


      @nvwino


      @ohiobarbarian

       

    • #290487
      Fugitive Birdie
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      They are bailing out the banks to the tune of trillions.  In doing so they are crossing some lines that may never be undone.

      The response has been good enough to avoid a revolution but bad enough that the poor and lower middle class will lose whatever they had left after 2008.

      And ultimately we will have a planned economy that with the leadership that we can expect will feel more like coporate fascism than a recovery.

    • #290499
      Ohio Barbarian
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      There are people sick and dying of this thing right now. The capabilities of societies and governments to respond in a manner which saves the most lives are on full display. Some countries have come through with flying colors. See South Korea and Norway. Others acted too late, like Italy, or were hamstrung by criminal imperial American sanctions, like Iran.

      In America itself, it is becoming clear that we have no functioning national public health care system. It is apparent that our government, purchased lock, stock and barrel by the ruling corporate oligarchy, was completely unprepared for a new epidemiological challenge because it was not profitable for the oligarchy to prepare.

      Finding it difficult to act in the public interest due to its ossified corruption, our government instead swiftly imposes draconian restrictions on our freedoms of assembly and movement, while failing to protect tens of millions of our most vulnerable citizens from staring the specter of utter destitution in the face.

      While the ruling class is focused on an internal power struggle between those who remember what brought about France’s National Razor and see that it’s time to materially assist the working class right now, and those who only care about expanding their short-term wealth and power, working class people are taking matters into their own hands here and there.

      Successful wildcat strikes and threats thereof have already won some victories for workers. The corporate media may ignore it. But the Big Three automakers already lost ground to their workers, Vermont and Minnesota have recognized grocery workers as “essential” and raised their wages, some Ohio county workers have obtained substantial concessions from their–let’s say frugal–government officials just by pointing to auto workers.

      People in the Trump Administration know it. Mike DeWine is learning about it. Some billionaires fear it and scream for socialistic measures now, to save their own asses. Meanwhile, the corruption and incompetence of our governments, federal, state, and local, is in the spotlight. This is what happens when people who don’t believe in the general welfare are in charge for generations.

      What happens next? I don’t know, but things are happening fast, and can go in several different directions. I live in the spring of 2020. I really don’t care where this virus came from right now. I care about what’s going to happen next, and what we can do to make sure that demands for changes to our social power structure intensify and do not recede.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #290507
      the berner
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      This thing was engineered to spread quickly but lacked a real deadly quality.  It was released so our owners could see just how far they could push the planet in a crisis.  It’s a dress rehearsal.  Plus it distracts from a movement in the US that was gaining serious traction, namely Bernie. After they condition everyone, everywhere to life as they see fit to deliver it they will drop the real herd culler.  Our owners are evil mendacious greedy sociopaths, but they arent stupid.  Trust me when I say they understand that the planet needs less people.  I’ll give you one guess who the expendable people are.

    • #290531
      rampart
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      @the berner

      “MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE”

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