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  • hypergrove (171 posts)
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    Damn right! We DO have a litmus test

    Twenty-five years ago, my party was stolen from me.  We have set out to steal it right back, but how do we tell the good guys from the bad ones?

    My party was the party of FDR and George Henry Wallace. Today the Democratic Party can barely utter these names. Because they know they’d have to face one of his greatest achievements: The Second Bill of Rights.

    Are you an FDR Democrat?
    Do you believe completely in FDR’s Second Bill of Rights?
    (Would you have supported Wallace over Truman?)

    Answer yes to these, you’re our guy/gal.
    Answer no to these, you’re a ratfking poseur who needs to take a damn hike.

    So yes, we DO have a simple itmus test: noone is being a progressive/purist to demand our candidates honor and follow our Party’s most-loved leader.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights:
    During Roosevelt’s January 11, 1944 message to the US Congress on the State of the Union, he said the following:[2]

    It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.

    This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.

    As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.

    We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.”[3] People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

    In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

    Among these are:

    • The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
    • The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
    • The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
    • The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
    • The right of every family to a decent home;
    • The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
    • The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
    • The right to a good education.

    All of these rights spell “security”.


    So, I propose these two questions to be JPR’s Litmus Test, referencing the iconography surrounding our dearest leader.

    Game, set, match, corporatist whores who ‘forgot’ about FDR.


    (on edit, removed “George” from Henry Wallace — pretty embarrassing!!!)

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    • Mom Cat (8613 posts)
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      1. Sounds good to me!

      That and/or Bernie’s basic stump speech. I don’t care if you call me a purist for wanting decency and respect for everyone. I welcome their name calling. It just shows how immoral they are.

           NEVER FORGET      BERNIE WON!          
    • sorechasm (97 posts)
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      2. While “Necessitous men are not free men,” by contrast, secure and healthy

      citizens can bring prosperity to all because these are the conditions of creativity, individual initiative, and innovation. At least that’s the way I read Roosevelt’s and Wallace’s 2nd Bill of Rights.

       

    • hopemountain (1931 posts)
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      3. ^^^rec^^^

      agreed!  economic justice & equity (in addition to equality) must be recognized as rights. damn it.

      "economic and environmental justice is spiritual work." ~ tom b. k. goldtooth ....
    • Silver Witch (4774 posts)
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      4. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are

      This is why we can not leave people hungry and in fear.

       

      This should be on the Daily Radical @admin @landofenchantment

      #Let'sTalkRevolution
      • Land of Enchantment (6671 posts)
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        5. It's a great OP and thanks for calling me but Mary determines what goes

        on the Daily Radical and so I will call her to this for you—– [email protected]

        :hi:

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
        • Marym625 (21464 posts)
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          8. Thank you. It's up!

          Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • Marym625 (21464 posts)
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        7. It's up. Thank you!

        Please just send me a pm when you see something. Then I’ll be sure to see it. ;)

        Thanks again!

        Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
        • Silver Witch (4774 posts)
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          13. Sorry Mary. I don't know how to tell which post.

          Maybe by the title?

          #Let'sTalkRevolution
          • Marym625 (21464 posts)
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            16. You can just copy the address, in the address bar,

            and paste it into a pm. :)

            The reason I much prefer a pm is the possibility that it won’t go up for whatever reason. I would hate to embarrass the author.

            That’s only happened a couple of times but ya never know.

            Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
            • Silver Witch (4774 posts)
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              17. Ohh so simp!e. Thank Mary!

              #Let'sTalkRevolution
    • Marym625 (21464 posts)
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      6. On The Daily Radical!

      Thank you so much.

      I don’t agree with “our party” as there are very few “Democrats” left and the party is run by the bad guys. We’ve witnessed this time and time again.

      So, we need a new party. A party dedicated to this  new Bill of Rights. And I would add we must get money out of politics. It is the only way to achieve our goals.

      Thank you

      Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
      • hypergrove (171 posts)
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        15. what an unexpected response

        especially for a newcomer like me. Thank you everyone, I’m home.

        J ! Justice, Democrats, Justice ! P ! Primary the Corporatists ! R ! Roosevelt’s 2nd Bill of Rights !
        • Marym625 (21464 posts)
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          18. Thank you! And welcome home. :)

          Oi245KQ-1 "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • vanflower (259 posts)
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      9. Damn right

      Most people I know who don’t vote say their vote doesn’t matter because both parties are the same – what difference does it make if I vote or not.  Economically they have been right, sure Trump is worse than a D on a lot of matters, but in a lot of ways he is the same.

      I am in MO and hope Mccaskill gets a progressive primary opponent or the greens run a progressive.  Her days are numbered, she will run to the right and lose to whoever has an R next to their name.

    • DoctorJ (467 posts)
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      10. I f we could get the DC Dems to get behind this for 3 years, come 2021

      there wouldn’t be a Republican party.  Obama, Reid, and Pelosi could have finished them off in 2009-2010 by passing a public healthcare option and putting Cheney in jail.  Instead they “turned the page” and made us all slaves to Big Insurance, and the result is that the Repukes will rule for at least another generation.  Bad Morals = Bad Politics.

      The ideal CNN story is a baby down a well, while the ideal Fox story is probably a baby thrown down a well by a Muslim terrorist or an ACORN activist. - Matt Taibbi, "Insane Clown President"
      • The Crone (3065 posts)
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        21. And many of us will never forget that

        The Dem sellouts were very much in our faces about selling us out.

        At around the same time he was holed up in the White House basement, writing up the legislation that became the ACA, with Corporate stooge Liz Fowler assisting him, Rahm Emanuel flagrantly assailed us progressives as “retards.”

        "Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy   America is the only country that has real   lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring  in its lemonade!
    • Xyzse (2501 posts)
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      11. Sounds great.

      I can get behind this.

    • Punxsutawney (1301 posts)
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      12. Yes, Yes, Yes

      Nuff said.

      To neoliberals, everyone and everything are disposable. -  Chris Hedges  “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith
    • Depaysement (712 posts)
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      14. Still a great post the second time I read it

      "White youth, black youth Better find another solution Why not phone up Robin Hood And ask him for some wealth distribution" White Man in Hammersmith Palais (1978)
    • Enthusiast (8244 posts)
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      19. Recommended to the max!

      :bounce:

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church
    • The Crone (3065 posts)
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      20. Thank you. It is worth

      Noting that the opposition to Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, also was a leader committed to having a middle class economy.

      So we have not only witnessed the Corporate Takeover of the Democratic Party, but the Takeover of the Republican Party as well.

      “Ike” is often shoved to the sidelines when it comes to discussing “New Deal” strategies undertaken by Presidents. The reason for this is simple: Truman increased the Fed budget by so much, that Eisenhower had no reason to increase it at all. So history portrays him as “stingy” when that is a misrepresentation.

      Under Ike, the Truman policies of honoring the GI Bill continued. As did all policies relating to building schools, including community colleges, community hospitals, and Ike implemented the construction of our national highways and freeways.

      With all the building going on, circa 1947 to 1965, America saw close to full employment. People could afford to leave their cramped apartments for homes. Trades people became wealthy community leaders.

      The economic abundance allowed the Baby Boomers the ability to take to the streets to oppose Vietnam.

      One lesson learned by the Powers that Be over the decades spanning from 1947 to 1979: Don’t ever allow for a strong middle class again! And the Elite has followed that dictate quite carefully – moving our steel mills overseas, our automotive industry to third world nations, and even seeing that American farmers are undercut by a lack of tariffs, so the orange juice you buy in stores today may be from Brazil and not Florida, and your apricots are Turkish, not from California.

       

      "Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy   America is the only country that has real   lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring  in its lemonade!
      • hypergrove (171 posts)
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        22. Very interesting material about Ike

        I’ve been investigating the roots of the so-called corporate Democrats for a bit now. What a great note about Ike and his relationship to the policy-making of that time. Very good food for thought thanks again.

        J ! Justice, Democrats, Justice ! P ! Primary the Corporatists ! R ! Roosevelt’s 2nd Bill of Rights !
        • The Crone (3065 posts)
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          23. I don't have the actual quote at hand, but at

          One point when Ike’s “military experts” were urging that he add some huge amount to defense spending, he happened to be in talks with Nikita Khrushchev. And he asked Khrushchev point blank: do you have continual pressure from your military and defense people to constantly expand spending on the military part of your budget?

          When Khrushchev replied that was one of the things he grappled with, Ike took it to heart and told the defense establishment that they had quite enough money; maybe   next yer but not now. I don’t know if they pushed him in a corner and then forced him to reverse his thinking, but I thought it a smart way to handle the situation.

          "Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy   America is the only country that has real   lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring  in its lemonade!
          • hypergrove (171 posts)
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            24. Supreme commanders are like that, separating fact from faction.

            Nevertheless my family were Henry Wallace/Adlai Stevenson types.

            My father died 3 weeks after seeing JFK, a fellow Irish Catholic, win the election agains RMN… he hated RMN so much for his red-baiting and aiding McCarthy.

            Happy St Paddys Day!

             

            J ! Justice, Democrats, Justice ! P ! Primary the Corporatists ! R ! Roosevelt’s 2nd Bill of Rights !