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  • Purveyor (2633 posts)
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    Democrats Are Increasingly A Coastal Party. That’s A Problem.

    By Chris Cillizza January 31 at 3:10 PM
    Lost amid the focus on the news machine that is President Trump is the fact that the Democratic Party is in some of the most dire straits, electorally speaking, that it has faced in generations.

    On Monday, I detailed how Republicans are the dominant electoral party at every level of our political process. Simply put: The Democratic Party is in a bad way at the moment.

    More evidence of the challenges that the Democratic Party faces in future elections came my way today via the good folks at Third Way, a centrist think tank in Washington.  Check out these two maps taken from a PowerPoint presentation delivered by Third Way President Jon Cowan at a recent conference in Florida organized by Democratic activist David Brock.

    Here’s the presidential map:



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  • Ferd Berfel (5249 posts)
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    1. Bernie didn't seem to have that problem

    huh. Maybe the Party should take note.

    …and you think you’re going to stop this simply by ‘pulling a lever’, in a booth, behind a curtain, every 2 years? - Know yourself. And if you need help with that, call the FBI. -  There is only ONE solution to this mess:  New Party !  
    • jwirr (3855 posts)
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      4. They better take note because they need more than just the WH to change

      the mess we are in and as far as I remember that means electing down ticket progressives in all those white states in these maps.

      • Ferd Berfel (5249 posts)
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        5. Bernie would have had coat tails

        Coat Tails 2020!

        …and you think you’re going to stop this simply by ‘pulling a lever’, in a booth, behind a curtain, every 2 years? - Know yourself. And if you need help with that, call the FBI. -  There is only ONE solution to this mess:  New Party !  
        • Rozinante (3694 posts)
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          7. Yep, Dems would have Senate majority if Bernie headed the ticket.

          Still would have had difficulty getting an ideal SCOTUS nominee confirmed (need 60 votes to avoid filibuster), but would have been able to confirm good people in Cabinet as only 51 votes needed.

    • MistaP (6461 posts)
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      14. and that was WITH a proud socialist, feminist, antiracist Vermonter who

      got an F from the NRA

      the DLCers will just buy some 4x4s and target rifles from Walmart and have their candidates pose with it (and deregulate stripmining and sell off public lands) in order to pander

      http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ (Third Way = Bell Curve)
  • Rocco (626 posts)
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    2. More speculation from the MSM

    The more crap that they spew, the less I believe it.
    The country has become more of a crosschecked country, where voters’ rights are being taken away, a bit more with each election.

  • NedDevine (502 posts)
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    3. If Chris Cillizza says it's so, it must be

    He’s SO in touch with what’s going on outside the beltway

  • Rozinante (3694 posts)
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    6. Bernie had no problem getting support in Trump-voting States,…

    …despite not conceding one bit on his progressive social issue values.  The voters in Mich, Wisconsin, Penn, etc,  weren’t voting against abortion, gay marriage, or womens rights, they were voting FOR their own economic survival. Whether he was lying or not, Trump at least promised them that. Clinton told them to go pound sand.

  • NVBirdlady (3773 posts)
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    8. He's beltway so take it with a grain of salt. On the other hand, the Dems who

    help pass the Trump agenda will soon find that they are going to become irrelevant. As a whole if they don’t resist, they will be further irrelevant and just as responsible for what is unfolding.

    President Trump. Thanks DNC, HRC, DWS. #StillSanders. #NoDAPL  #NoKXL Giant Meteor 2020
    • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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      12. i hope they are so irrelevant they shrivel up into puddles

      like the wicked witch

      • NVBirdlady (3773 posts)
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        13. Couldn't agree with you more.

        President Trump. Thanks DNC, HRC, DWS. #StillSanders. #NoDAPL  #NoKXL Giant Meteor 2020
  • Mom Cat (14516 posts)
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    9. It is truly a self inflicted wound. The Democratic Party establishment was so

    sure of itself that they thought they could tell us peons to get lost. Well, we did!

         NEVER FORGET      BERNIE WON!          
  • djean111 (5244 posts)
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    10. The Third Way IS the fucking problem.

    IMO they have sucked the Democratic Party dry.   I won’t be supporting any candidate with the Third Way stench about them, starting with the line-up at New Democrat Coalition.  or supporting the Democratic Party, unless they makes big changes.  Not pandering deceitful lies about changes, but actual changes.  looks like that won’t happen – Third Way-owned, Pelosi says no changes, and fucking David Brock as their ringmaster/snake oil salesman.   Ugh.

    • *Obligatory disclaimer - when I say "Democratic Party" I mean the DNC - the Clintons and the un-elected people and the consultants and the lobbyists and the corporations who actually run things.  The people who work and vote and are registered as "D" are no more the actual party than Trekkies are Star Trek.   Extra credit - the Democratic Party gets to actually fuck up your life. When you vote for it.
    You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
  • NuttyFluffers (1774 posts)
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    11. no one needs re-branded redundancy. republican-lite is a shit product.

    but keep failing into that sweet, sweet idiot-donor money! it’s just the whole world that’s watching!

  • oldandhappy (3790 posts)
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    15. Just a few thoughts

    Bernie spoke truth.

    Bernie spoke to real issues.

    Bernie spoke to now.

    Bernie was incredibly consistent.

    Bernie was out there, 2 – 4 rallies a day.

    Herself actually apparently helped with voter suppression.  Hard for me to know.  But she never stood UP against a lot of what was happening.  I have posted on this so much, will not do it again tonight.


    Invest in people.  Seek TRUTH.
  • Koko (4175 posts)
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    16. True, maybe. Yet the Coasts are where the Populations are…

    and that is also part of the backlash of those who voted for Bernie in the “Rust Belts” and those who Voted for Trump when Bernie was no longer available.

    Sadly, the power will remain with Wall Sreet East Coast and Silicon Valley West Coast until we manage to break that vote and unite all that we are better when we hold together to create Real Reform.

    Quote From an Article Posted here, today:

    Our Task:

    We are all working to build a mass movement for economic, racial and environmental justice that is bigger than Donald Trump. As the extremist actions of the Trump administration are put in place we need to remember that extremism for the wealthy, for war and ignoring of environmental catastrophe is consistent with the actions of all recent presidents and the leadership of both corporate parties. Playing political ping-pong by electing a Democrat to replace the Republican will not confront the root cause of these problems.

    The issues of racism, anti-immigration and bigotry have even deeper histories in the US. The movement we need must be clear in understanding and politically educated enough to understand, Donald Trump is a symptom of a system that is in crisis; transforming that system is our task.