Democrats call for stimulus to boost Social Security benefits by $200 a month

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    • #290669
      ravensong
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      Senate Democrats on Saturday unveiled a plan to increase monthly Social Security benefits, veterans assistance and Supplemental Security Income benefits by $200 a month, which could further add to a stimulus bill that is now estimated to cost between $1.3 trillion and $1.4 trillion.

      Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) joined Sen. Ron Wyden (Ore.), the senior Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in calling for the expanded benefits to be added to the phase three stimulus bill.

      The additional benefits, which would last through the end of 2021, would provide seniors, veterans and people with disabilities an extra $4,000 over the next two years.

      “Immediately increasing Social Security benefits would put money in the pockets of seniors, veterans and people with disabilities during these uncertain times,” Schumer said in a statement. “Senate Democrats are committed to quickly delivering relief to the millions of Americans bearing the weight of this public health crisis.”

      https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/488803-democrats-call-for-stimulus-to-boost-social-security-benefits-by-200-a-month

      I guarantee Trump and Republicans already hate this idea, and are foaming at the mouth rabid angry just thinking about this.

      “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

      The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.
      ~ Unknown

    • #290674
      Ohio Barbarian
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      I’m so sick of this baby steps, incremental shit. They should be demanding at least five times that.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

      • #290677
        alcina
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        Come on, @ohiobarbarian. You know that’s just their starting point for negotiations. Seniors et al are going to be so grateful for that extra $25 a month for 6 months that these frauds will crow eventually about. Shame on you for being so negative.

        "I believe man suffers from an appalling ignorance of his own nature." -William Golding, Lord of the Flies

      • #290719
        ravensong
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        It is the sweet humming that fascists have in their brains, just before their heads explode.

        Wait for it….

         

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        “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

        The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.
        ~ Unknown

    • #290685
      B Calm
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      Isn’t that the way it works!

      • #290695
        NV Wino
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        I always go $20 in the hole every year.

        “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
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      incognito
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      They don’t think twice about throwing $1.5 TRILLION MORE to Wall St. and banks, but doing ANYTHING meaningful for the citizens of this country is like pulling fucking teeth.

      $200 does NOTHING to help. Nothing. And I’m sure that’s their point.

      These people need to be dragged out of the Capitol and taught a thing or two. They need to face FEAR. Just like the average working schmuck.

       

       

    • #290692
      Babel 17
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    • #290694
      HalfCentury Man
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      And hopefully this won’t count towards the limits on earning extra money.

      Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

      John F. Kennedy: 13 March 1962.

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      beeninthewoods
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      While I think already existing benefits need to go up overall, the situation that we are in right now is that people not making any money and not having any access to any benefits will need IMMEDIATE assistance. Trump and Mnuchin are probably right that the US govt should just send checks to us ASAP. Get money out there and tax it back out of the system with next years tax filing.

      Pelosi is wrong to consider any kind of means testing. Looking at your last years earnings as a way to means test is totally meaningless. If you made 200k$ last year it doesn’t mean diddly if you don’t earn any money for the next 8 months. If you only earned 20k$ last year but now are lucky enough to be a union grocery worker (many/most? grocery workers are union here in Minneapolis) and now you can work double time and you are lucky enough to stay alive and healthy and make 125$k this year then you can just send your check back- in the form of a tax payment next year.

      Seriously, it can be this easy. Add a line to our tax form next year. “If you earned more than 80,000 then check this box and pay back the amount that you received in emergency Covid payments”.

      This could apply to benefits as well. Send them a check. Send everyone a check. Keep the economy going on money borrowed at 0% interest and have it paid back by anyone who has some suitable level of income this year.

    • #290713
      MizzGrizz
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      Have said it before and will say it again,it would about drive the professional class crazy if the lowly working class got the same perks and benefits as they.

    • #290742
      HassleCat
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      Give money to the people who need it? Socialists!

      • #290752
        ravensong
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        The stimulus money wasted on those useless cat food munching old people would be better spent on giving defense contracts to war profiteers in order to combat the deadly ever present threat posed to the US by the Cuban, Venezuelan, and Nordic type Soshlist commies.

        Or something like that.

        “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

        The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.
        ~ Unknown

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      SinMentiras SinVerguenza
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      Actually the DHS department will subcontract with mercenaries to administer mandatory tests that we all have to purchase.  Trump’s daughter will head the new corporation created to provide “services” to the DHS.  Problem solved.   I say this somewhat tongue in cheek.

      I agree with OB.  It is abysmally inadequate and worse the weakest stance possible.  If any of those millionaire Senators had a microscopic sliver of a clue they would know that you bargain strong – 2000$ a week for everyone to start with so as to jump start everything.   Desperate times call for it.   But these fat bastards are not desperate and do not know or acknowledge desperation.

      What you see there is another ultra-timid proposal from the “affordable” vaccine crowd.  Moderate measures for a pandemic is all we will get from the “got mine so fuck you” crowd.  This shows what will happen if Biden gets elected.  Trump trashed the US to hand goodies out to all of his “peeps” and Biden will put little moderate band-aids on everything  just like President MYBOSS did and in 4 to 8 years we get the BEZOZ/Gates ticket with Bloomberg in charge of Fatherland Security.

      My biggest fear is if this disaster is being planned and orchestrated by the Royals and 3 LetterMen (DNC, RNC, CIA, NSA, CAP, DHS, HHS, and on and on……).  IF so, then they already have a treatment or have been immunized ahead of the Virus release.  What if we have a rogue deep state that has been doing warfare on our shores since the HIV outbreak in the 80’s.  Seems to me that there is NO ONE watching these bastards.  As Al Gore put it, there is no legal controlling authority.  I HOPE I’M WRONG.

    • #290819
      snot
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      The discount windows are open to all comers.

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      Jim Lane
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      The people with the greatest need for immediate help are those whose income has been truncated or eliminated (many employees and free-lancers), especially those facing fixed expenses (rent, mortgage, credit card bills, etc.).  The relief should be targeted to increasing their income and dealing with their problems on the expense side, such as through a moratorium on evictions (and, to be fair to the landlords, a corresponding moratorium on property taxes).

      Under normal circumstances, boosting Social Security payments would stimulate the economy overall, because the recipients would spend the money and it would circulate.  At present, however, many avenues of spending are shut down.  A generalized stimulus would have less of an effect on aggregate demand than it otherwise would.

      In the longer term, Social Security is an important issue.  Raise the cap to improve the system’s fiscal health, raise overall benefit levels, reconsider the tax treatment — these are all valid goals but in the current emergency they aren’t the top priority.

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        I’m gonna go ahead and assume that Pelosi and her ilk would rather eat bargain caviar than raise all boats, and, furthermore, assume that no Vichy Dem will ever raise that cap or increase payments.  Oh, and we Social Security peasants spend our money on FOOD and MEDICINE, which we can still buy.  When we can.  Be nice to buy more of it, and not have to pay $14 for the only toilet paper on the shelves, which would have bought me a five pound hamburger chub and a couple of 69 cent rolls of toilet paper, which is what my budget calls for.

        So far, it looks like the only thing I can look forward to, because I am not, say, Jamie Dimon, is voting against a Vichy Dem in November.

        There is enough money to raise all the boats, not just the yachts, not just what I am sure will be a pittance to workers, once Pelosi and Schumer allow an amendment-laden bill to be voted on.

        In the longer term, Social Security is an important issue.  Raise the cap to improve the system’s fiscal health, raise overall benefit levels, reconsider the tax treatment — these are all valid goals but in the current emergency they aren’t the top priority.

        Vichy Dem campaign pandering at its finest!!!!  Bwahahaha!  Give me a break.  That will never be a priority to the corporate Dems, never ever ever.  Just campaign bullshit.


        @jimlane

        • #291258
          Jim Lane
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          Actually, no one can tell you the Official Democratic Party Reasoning, because there is no such thing.  The party’s highest authority is the quadrennial national convention.  The closest thing there is to an “official” position is the platform adopted at that convention — but even if the convention is held this year, we can be confident that Joe Manchin will disagree with some parts of the platform and AOC will disagree with other parts.

          I understand that you “Social Security peasants” are affected by price gouging and product unavailability.  My point is that we wage-and-salary peasants are also affected by those things, plus many of us currently have reduced income or zero income.

          • #291389
            djean111
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            Trillion dollars a day to lend to the banks, though.  As if that will be repaid, or used to help us peasants.

            And, mmmmm –  the smell of attempted marginalization by using semantics is as bad in the morning as it is all day.  Reminds me of when we were loftily told there was no such thing as DLC, because it was not used any more, over at SV, so nothing to see there.  Oh, and the Democratic Platform is a joke at this point.  Just used to pander.  IMO the Democratic Party is now totally corporate.  Let’s just say “whoever it is Pelosi and Schumer work for”, let’s just say “The Democratic Party”.  You know what I meant.


            @jimlane

    • #291350
      Quinn
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      Couple of bucks would of came in handy as this wk I weighed out spending my remaining funds to stock up on supplies just in cade or fill my meds (been rationing, got another day, not covered, w/food pantry down) so went with the supplies.

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      Liberal Nana
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      The problem with this is many people on SS and Disability are on fixed incomes and qualify for Medical Assistance healthcare.  If this puts them over the limit, they will lose those medical benefits, which could likely end up reducing their actual income due to incresed health and prescription drug costs.  I would hope they would be taking this into account, otherwise it is doing more damage than good for a lot of people.

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