Democrats pass $1 trillion US infrastructure bill, giving Biden much-needed win

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    • #453679
      alcina
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      The U.S. House of Representatives approved a $1 trillion US package of road and other infrastructure projects late Friday after Democrats resolved a months-long standoff between progressives and moderates, notching a victory that President Joe Biden and his party had become increasingly anxious to claim.

      The House passed the measure 228-206, prompting prolonged cheers from the relieved Democratic side of the chamber. Thirteen Republicans, mostly moderates, supported the legislation while six of Democrats’ farthest left members — including Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Cori Bush of Missouri — opposed it.

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/biden-democrats-infrastructure-1.6239767

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    • #453681
      Hobbit709
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      And will it get past Yertle?

      Not even close to a win my book.

      I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing.

      • #453684
        Junker
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        Democrats don’t win. That’s not what they are paid to do.

      • #453890
        Babel 17
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        Since the House didn’t change what got passed in the Senate, it doesn’t have to go back to them for reconciliation.

        It’s the next bill, the one that many wanted also voted on, which will eventually go to the Senate for ritual dismemberment, and Frankenstein’s monster like reconstitution.

        • The House of Representatives passed a key procedural vote to line up eventual passage of the Build Back Better Act, President Joe Biden’s signature social safety net and climate change bill.
        • The original plan to pass the final bill Friday fell apart when it became clear that a small group of House moderates would not vote for the bill until they see an economic analysis from the CBO.
        • The vote came soon after the House late Friday night passed the $1 trillion, Senate-approved bipartisan infrastructure bill, which will now go to Biden’s desk.

        https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/06/biden-build-back-better-bill-passes-procedural-vote-in-house.html

    • #453685
      Pam2
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      Who cares if Biden gets a “win”? What do the American people get?

       

    • #453687
      David the Gnome
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      Doesn’t this still have to pass in the Senate?  If so, how likely is a similar vote there?

    • #453688
      mrdmk
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      At the start, one was $2 trillion, the other was for $6 trillion. Last heard, the one for $2 trillion got taken down $800 billion. Whereas, the $6 trillion was taken down to $1.75 trillion. So what got passed? Sounds like a bill of goods for bragging rights.

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      GZeusH
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      as a well-we-didn’t-fall-face-first-into-a cow-pie.

      Corporate America consists of totalitarian entities laser-focused on short-term greed.

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      Bernie 4 2020
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      Why? We will probably never know. I suspect this is how it went down

      Some type of agreement was made with moderates and progressives. In that agreement, the moderates promised to pass the other bill the progressives wanted to pass with infrastructure. I personally think Pelosi pulled a quick one on the progressives.

      If the moderates don’t pass the other part of this bill, as promised, I would suspect all hell will break lose. We shall see what happens over the next few weeks.

      I will be a Bernie supporter FOREVER. This whole thing with Bernie and his people oriented policies were meant to be introduced in this day and age!! Many have tried and failed in the past. Succeeding was almost impossible. It's kind of a gimme in today's corrupt 2 party system that you have to work within. Just look how things have changed in the past 8 years from Bernie's policies. It was meant to be. Wait it out. Change will come. Thank you Bernie for all you've done. You are a truly amazing person.

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      Babel 17
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      Or will we be dependent on progressives reaching out to their good friends, President Biden, Speaker Pelosi, and the Master of the Senate, Chuck Schumer?

      I’m speaking of the bill that still needs to get to the Senate for “reconciliation”.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/reconciliation-bill-2021-explained-what-it-is-and-whats-in-it/ar-AAOmODj

      Medicare hearing benefits: Hearing services would be covered under Medicare, starting in 2023, but vision and dental benefits would not be included.

      Only 30% of seniors over age 70 who could benefit from hearing aids have ever used them, the White House said.

      This measure would cost $28 billion, according to the White House’s latest estimate.

      Asking for the millions of people who need those benefits, and thought that defeating Trump would see them get included in the big wave of legislation from the Biden administration, especially as the Senate fell to Democratic control. Historically speaking, it gets harder to get progressive legislation passed after the first year of a new administration. Because all administrations tend to spend as much as they can when they first get in, and then later have to defend themself from having blown up the budget, and increased inflation, afterwards.

      Medicare benefits are popular among the Republican base, and a party that cared more about the 99%, and winning elections, rather than pissing off their donors who’d pay for some of the increase in benefits, would seize the opportunity to offer up a fairly clean bill that was all about Medicare, or at least mostly about it. Bolstering Social Security by eliminating the cap that Schumer defends so strongly could probably be safely added to a relatively clean bill.

      But you can’t hide earmarks in clean bills, and senior citizens are left to squint at the bad news about promises broken, and chew gum over their alternatives to the continued shell game of neither party delivering for them, while the military industry complex gets bi-partisan support in passing bills that sends them trillions of dollars.

      Here’s what’s out:

      Free community college: Biden initially called for making tuition free for two years at community colleges, but it’s been dropped entirely from the bill.

      Medicare dental and vision benefits: The bill does not include expanding Medicare to include vision and dental coverage, both longtime goals of Sanders. Dental coverage, in particular, would have been costly.

      Is it true that universities opposed the free community college, as that would hurt their bottom line?

    • #453898
      glinda
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      caved.

      She is getting totally attacked for it on MN. SM right now. If only they understood how things work.

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        Pastiche
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        @glinda that there were six democrats that broke with the party:

        Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York
        Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri
        Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
        Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota
        Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts
        Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan

         

        The six House Democrats

    • #453933
      sadoldgirl
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      Forget the second bill. They’ll make sure that it will never

      pass the Senate.

      • #453956
        MizzGrizz
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        ..that second bill for now.She has promised to bring it up for a vote inacouple of weeks,but don’t hold your breath.

        The Squad originally said they wouldn’t vote on the infrastructure bill unless both bills were introduced together.So what did Fancy do?She went out and corralled five Republicans who would vote for the bill,giving her what she needed to railroad it through,squad or no squad.At that,all but Omar caved.

        Theater,theater,theater.

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      Bernie Boomer
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      passed without a peep from the “how will we pay for it?” crew.

      This physical infrastructure bill was run through the CBO gauntlet, despite the fact that the 1.2 trillion is costed out over 10 years. Only $550 billion of that is new spending; the rest is what is normally spent on our decaying country.

      The social infrastructure bill was gutted down to its current 1.75 trillion (over ten years) because “how will we pay for it??” and then handily tabled by Pelosi because the CBO hasn’t costed it yet. It probably won’t see the light of day this session but if it does and they manage to pass it in the House, Mitch the Turtle will just use it to wipe the spittle from his face after he finishes laughing.

      So, a short $3 trillion in spending over 10 years. $300 billion a year. Less than half of the annual defense budget since 2013. Never costed by the CBO and annually passed by Congress left-right-center with eyes shut and hands held piously over their hearts.

      Despite his Chief-of-Staff’s assertion, Biden is no FDR in any universe and Congress is a criminal enterprise.

       

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