Democrats with Trump derangement syndrome

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    • #12202
      salemcourt
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      A new Politico/Morning Consult poll has found that there is much more support for ongoing military occupations among Democrats surveyed than Republicans.

      To the question “As you may know, President Trump ordered an immediate withdrawal of more than 2,000 U.S. troops from Syria. Based on what you know, do you support or oppose President Trump’s decision?”, 29 percent of Democrats responded either “Somewhat support” or “Strongly support”, while 50 percent responded either “Somewhat oppose” or “Strongly oppose”. Republicans asked the same question responded with 73 percent either somewhat or strongly supporting and only 17 percent either somewhat or strongly opposing.

      Those surveyed were also asked the question “As you may know, President Trump ordered the start of a reduction of U.S. military presence in Afghanistan, with about half of the approximately 14,000 U.S. troops there set to begin returning home in the near future. Based on what you know, do you support or oppose President Trump’s decision?” Forty percent of Democrats responded as either “Somewhat support” or “strongly support”, with 41 percent either somewhat or strongly opposing. Seventy-six percent of Republicans, in contrast, responded as either somewhat or strongly supporting Trump’s decision, while only 15 percent oppose it to any extent.

      New Poll: US Military Occupations Supported By Far More Democrats Than Republicans

    • #12206
      Ohio Barbarian
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      I think this is just a reflection of sports team-like party loyalty. Republicans say they support Trump’s alleged decision to pull out of Syria because Trump’s a Republican. A lot of Democrats oppose it only because Trump proposed it.

      That does not mean that more Democrats are warmongers than Republicans overall, and Trump is not a peace President. His people are down in South America right now trying to put together another “coalition of the willing” to invade Venezuela.

      As for me, I support pulling troops out of Syria and damned near everywhere else, but I won’t believe that lying orange weasel is serious until all of our troops are out of that country, and neither should anyone else.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

      • #12242
        Bellicose Lugosi
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        That’s a huge part of the problem in my opinion.  Sports team mentality.  Sh!t, I thought those on the left were smarter than that.  I know now that I was wrong – terribly wrong.  I wish I could propose a solution but if people can’t get behind a good idea, regardless of it’s source, we’re fooked.

        It's alright Ma, it's life and life only.

        • #12258
          doh1304
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          Everybody lives in a bubble, OB, but it looks like your bubble is a lot more transparent than mine. here in San Francisco the Hillbot-McCarthyism is skunk strong. The good people of Pelosiland would goosestep for Zuckerburg’s “social score” cultural revolution, happy that Facebook will turn in their parents to the Gestapo for them. Julian Assange would never get a fair trial here, as 100,000 people would attend his lynching. In fact, if Kamals (not Harrris, but the professional wrestler “Kamala, the Nigerian Cannibal”) were to run for President on a platform of a first strike on Russia not only would he win SF, but the population would line up to volunteer to ride the bombs down like Slim Pickens to make sure they detonated.

          The only thing that I can say in defense of Democrats is that I have seen a similar insanity in communities that are almost universally Republican. It is my theory that the more insulated your bubble the crazier you are.

          • #12265
            Ohio Barbarian
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            Maybe it’s because I live in a much less wealthy area and I work for a county social services agency. I live in a nice working to middle class neighborhood, but at least half the homes on my street, including my own, have multigenerational families living in them because young people can work full time and not afford their own place.

            They have friends who joined the military to get out and maybe get that promising college degree. They have others who went to college for a year or two but dropped out when they realized they would never be able to repay their student loans. I walk past homeless people every work day. We are deluged with calls from people worried about what will happen to their food stamps.

            If you try to live in a bubble in Cleveland, someone with a pin is bound to walk by soon.

            It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

            Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

      • #12328
        ozoneman
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        There is some sport mentality, but I think it is more Trump derangement syndrome, emanating from Her loss, and trying to cover it up by launching the insurance policy, Russia!!! gate.

        There is no journalistism left in this country others than reporting of independents like Caitlin Johnstone, and Glenn Greenwald.

        Listening to NPR today was sickening, as they had a Democratic congressman explaining why it was a bad decision to pull out of Syria. No counter opinion. It’s not a singularity, but every day, the same unbalanced reporting.

      • #12616
        B Calm
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        I rarely agree with Trump on anything, but I do agree with bringing our troops home!

    • #12212
      JustSayin
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      LOL…The democrats still believe that somehow Obama’s Bombs loved the brownies to death where as Trumps bombs hate them to death. Forever I used to believe that somehow democrats are much more intelligent that fox noise viewers. Alas Rachael madcow showed me how wrong was I! I see all those Feminazis Hillbots on twitter espousing the evils of border wall and Trump notsupporting DACA but the same #MeHateToo crowd is silent on dems creating refugess. The climax was warmongering BO getting a Nobel for being the first Black president

      Never expect different result by following the previous steps

    • #12214
      jwirr
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      Alas when they are making money on wars it does not matter what party they belong to. That is what is so wrong with out government – the 1% owns it and that is their biggest source of income. If we cannot stop this then we will still be fighting the war in the ME in 2050. And our own country will be spending 95% of its income on wars.

      Profiteering used to be against the law.

      jwirr

    • #12246
      sadoldgirl
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      It seems that for many Americans the word “Peace” should

      be only used at Christmas. When it comes to foreign policy

      they think that when we bomb other countries their peoples

      should love us. A very weird concept based on effective

      propaganda from TPTB.

    • #12249
      bazukhov
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      Anyone that thinks Donny is a peacenik or friend of peace is suffering some real derangement.

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

      • #12275
        peacecorps
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        Calling it “Trump Derangement Syndrome” echoes what Trump likes to say about those who oppose him.

        Democrats should accept it when Trump stumbles into a progressive policy (he does not do it often) even if it comes from an authoritarian leader “forcefully” making the case for perhaps a genuinely un-progressive reason (Erdogan wants to invade northern Syrian and teach the Kurds a lesson).

        The Big Lie: "Make the lie big, Make it simple, Keep saying it, And eventually they will believe it." AH.

        "Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect." JG

        National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not solved with more nationalism.

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