Denver Teachers Strike Over Base Pay.

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      Land of Enchantment
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      https://www.npr.org/2019/02/11/693416928/denver-teachers-strike-over-base-pay

      Denver schoolteachers are going on strike today. The strike comes after more than a year of negotiations between the teachers union and the school district, that have focused on how to calculate base pay. The city hasn’t experienced a teacher strike in 25 years.

      The strike will affect 71,000 students across 147 schools, Colorado Public Radio reports. Most Denver Public Schools will remain open, and the district has readied hundreds of additional substitute teachers. It’s unclear how many of the district’s more than 5,000 teachers will actually walk out.

      The fundamental disagreement concerns how base pay is calculated. Twenty years ago, the district first piloted the “Professional Compensation System for Teachers,” known by most as ProComp. According to the Denver Post, the system paid teachers based on performance, with a series of bonuses that the district hoped would attract high quality educators.

       

      “Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart.” ~ Emily Dickinson

    • #23029
      David the Gnome
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      While I think teachers should absolutely be paid more than 24 dollars an hour… a lot of those kids they teach are going to graduate into an economy that will pay them 11 or 12, often regardless of eventual college education or lack thereof.  IMO – this is a National problem.  If we addressed it as a Nation… maybe we could start actually paying for public education, supplies, reasonable teachers wages/salaries, while also, just maybe, making sure that the kids being educated in our public schools do not end up without health insurance, food, or housing?  Just a thought…

      Teaching is one of those few professions still represented by unions – but even so, the overwhelming majority of Americans, over the last several decades, have lost nearly ALL of their bargaining power.

      So, great, I support this strike – but how many people are earning a whole lot less?  People who went through that public education and earned their diplomas?  How many kids in Denver go to school hungry?  How many of their parents haven’t got enough money to pay for even basic necessities?  The teachers feel they deserve more – and I agree – but those with less aren’t, as a general group, going to feel overwhelming sympathy.

      • #23056
        Land of Enchantment
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        The movement to strike is going national. I’m hearing Virginia might be next… I see this more of a traditional profession for women as is the nursing profession although more and more men enter these fields as we go along. If nurses and teaches did not have unions they would be in worse shape than they are currently in, even though their unions have been considerably weakened—and maybe part of the answer is for strengthening the existing unions and working to create more for others who at at the mercy of at will employment.

        “Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart.” ~ Emily Dickinson

    • #23058
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      I think public education needs an over haul.  Gates et al have degenerated it into a holding pen of boredom and anomie, even more so than it previously was in a lot of places.

      I personally think radically smaller classrooms would allow a higher percent of students to reach similar educational targets (more ‘success’) in fewer years, leaving space for a bigger hands-on component = more balanced education (or an education more similar to what elites get)

      • #23064
        Land of Enchantment
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        Yes it does! The ‘No Child Left Behind Act’ along with the creation of charter schools among other things have seriously damaged our educational system. One of the main issues with the LA teachers was class size and I believe that was resolved. I remember my mother talking about having studied Latin in grade school in a classroom that had students from first to twelfth grade —all in one room–back in the dark ages, lol. I think they were on to something waaay back then.

        “Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart.” ~ Emily Dickinson

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      Teachers are the only white collar jobs that require a collage degree, while being treated as blue collars. A degree that the teacher has to foot the bill for themselves. Not to mention the continuing education on their own dime also.
      Teachers are managed as if they semi-qualified for some manual employment. The management go to yearly conferences and bring back 3 and 4 inch thick 3 ring binders, the contents of which the teachers are required to read and adapt in their class rooms.
      The teachers usually don’t have much say in the contents. Most of them just roll their eyes and ignore the information contained in them and continue with what they know actually works in the class room. As an example, Common Core/Teach to the Test came to the classroom out in those 3 ring binders. The teachers do discuss the contents among themselves and easily poke holes in the yearly “New and Better” ways of educating our children.
      Good teachers that know how to teach, are restrained from utilizing there own methods. Although they try anyway. Is it any wonder good teachers are leaving for better paying jobs elsewhere?
      Let the teachers teach and learn from them the best way to educate the next generation, instead of kowtowing to politicians and hired bean counters, who have never been in front of the classrooms.
      This country used to have the best public education system in the world. Now we are way down the list and dropping. We use to lead the world in the sciences. We put a man on the moon, with primitive electronics and slide rules. Now we need a so-called adversary to ferry our astronauts up and back for us. My, how the mighty have fallen.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.

      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.

      Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…

      • #23077
        Land of Enchantment
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        Wonderfully thorough reply, thanks. I had completely forgotten about Common Core/Teach to the Test… another disastrous concept brought to rot. I’ve read about teachers who brought food/snacks for their students just so they would have something in the their tummies. The citizens of Albuquerque have held fund drives to purchase supplies for the schools because the teachers had already drained their bank accounts and could not afford the rest. It is shameful yet damn near every candidate promises to address these issues and it never effing happens.

        “Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart.” ~ Emily Dickinson

    • #23076
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      the contents of the binders are so easy to poke holes in because they’re driven by the needs of the 1% — profit, power & control.

       

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