Disgust Begins

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    • #376304
      MizzGrizz
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      To anyone here who uses  social media and has conventional mainstream liberal friends,my best advice is..avoid it for a few days at least.The drooling over the Camel has begun.

      People whom I once gave credit for having a little sense have just absolutely lost it,swooning like it’s the British Invasion all over again and she’s all four Beatles plus Elvis thrown in.

      You read stuff from them about what an ace prosecutor she was,what a competent Senator,what a great heroine for young girls,even how great she looks in her tailored pantsuits.

      They seem to have no knowledge of her prosecutorial or Senatorial record at all and if you tell them,they seem not to care.

      Is anyone else seeing this?Quite frankly,it makes me want to vomit.

    • #376307
      Electrolyte Orchestra
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      They want us to consider her gender and the color of her skin, not the content of her character.

      It’s almost the opposite of MLK’s sentiment.

       

    • #376310
      MizzGrizz
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      ..kind of..well..racist…not to consider anything but her skin color,her parents’ nationality,and her gender?

    • #376312
      djean111
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      My sister gushed over Harris when the primaries first started, and I said have you seen her record???  FFS!  All I got was a huffy, well, you hate Obama so what else would I expect, and was told if she was so awful the Dems would not consider her in the first place.   Literally no point in having a conversation any more.  Funny thing is – if my sister thinks Biden and Harris are swell – then she is now what she has always abhorred – a Republican.

    • #376316
      Gryneos
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      More like a few months. Wait until the oh-so-important “first 100 days” are up. Yet even then, I don’t think talking to them will sway any opinions until it’s been at least fifty years.

      Who are you? | What do you want? | Why are you here? | Where are you going? | Do you have anything worth living for? | Who do you serve and who do you trust?

    • #376320
      Carolina
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      It is positively nauseating. I have friends who are literally on cloud 9. They blew up my phone all last night with messages of: now, I can breathe OR she’s so wonderful, I’m tearing up OR there is joy in the morning… blah, blah, blah, delete, delete, delete!

      I have not said a word or joined the hallelujah chorus. So, this morning I am getting all these: are you ok? texts. I have yet to respond. JPR is my refuge from their elite liberal ignorance. It truly is identity politics: Dems good, women better, Black-Asian woman PERFECT!

      One wrote: YAY… Hillary paved the way!   I had to respond to that drivel with: NO, Geraldine Ferraro paved the way. Barbara Jordan paved the way.

      My disgust is growing. This is a cult as blindly ignorant as Trump’s; and we have to put up with it until the inauguration. Then, they will go back to sleep as they did under BO (love simply using Obama’s odious initials)

       

       

    • #376321
      MizzGrizz
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      @djean111,I’d swear we have the same sister.

      My sister yesterday accused me of being a Trump supporter because I wasn’t joining in the dancing and because I said Biden reminds me of a crocodile and that the Camel is no one to celebrate.She herself said during the primary that they both were too conservative but all that seems to be forgotten now.It’s oh,aren’t they wonderful and isn’t the Camel so great.

      If someone can understand what kind of mind is at work here,please tell me.I am quite frankly at a loss.

      • #376326
        Gryneos
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        If you didn’t vote for Biden, you voted for Trump. You voted for the Green? That’s a vote for Trump. You left the ballot blank for President? That’s a vote for Trump. You voted Libertarian? That’s a vote for, no wait….does not compute!

        You might as well literally argue with the machine language of your phone. Binary-thinking is as bad as a Flatlander. Nothing exists outside of Flatland.

        Who are you? | What do you want? | Why are you here? | Where are you going? | Do you have anything worth living for? | Who do you serve and who do you trust?

    • #376325
      Earthartist
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      I guess I feel lucky, my sister worked for Biden for 20 year and voted for Bernie then she switched because she hates trump, but is angry they ran Biden.  She and I had one mini argument and agreed to disagree. The funny thing was I was taking to her and my brother a trump supporter and we all were in agreement that things were not going to change except to get worse.  I don’t think many of my climate friends are very excited.   I have a neighbor though who thinks this is the second coming of Christ.  He think Biden and Kamala our our saviors and they are going to fix everything.  My husband is now looking at what country we can move to! So I have not had to put up with it to badly here thankfully.  I see that the celebrators are already going back to sleep for 4 years, till the next lessor evil

      Earthartist

    • #376334
      Ohio Barbarian
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      It’s going to be positively insufferable. The one fact I can offer to throw in their faces, if you are so inclined, is that if there is any one identity politics that defeated Trump, it is white men.

      Trump had a greater share of the vote with all Blacks, all Latinos, all LGBTQ people, of white women, of every single demographic than he did in 2016 except for white men, where he lost 5%. That’s several million votes. That was Biden’s margin of victory  in the Midwest for certain. And they didn’t vote for Skamala. They didn’t even vote for Joe Biden. They just wanted Trump fucking gone for very good reasons, and they kicked his ass out the door.

      I’m going to have a LOT of fun with that little fact.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

      • #376387
        retired liberal
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        It is good Trump lost, but nobody won anything. The will of the people only counts when it aligns with what our owners want. Trump was too much of a loose canon, so he had to go.
        Both Biden and Harris were on the short list BEFORE the primaries. Our candidates are mostly chosen for us.
        Tulsi Gabbard easily took care of Harris early on, so they had to come up with another plan. This is it. I give Biden 2 years and a day.  Till then, he will only be brought out on good days when the drugs are working.
        We need a working 3rd party reflecting the will and the needs of the people.

        We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
        If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
        Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
        Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

    • #376342
      Pam2
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      I guess for a change I’m glad I have very few friends. I’ve never been on FB or Twitter. I haven’t heard from anyone about the election.  My 2 bros voted Biden but they know he sucks so I doubt they were dancing.

       

       

       

    • #376344
      A Simple Game
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    • #376345
      MizzGrizz
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      @simplegame,the essence of the Camel is one thing and one thing only:she’s pretty and she knows it,and she knows how to play it.

      Look at the little flips of her hair,her sidelong glance,the slight dropping of her head like you see in photos of old silent-movie queens.And this one is ready for her closeup.She knows perfectly well she’ll be president in about three years.And she is eating that off a stick.

      I really feel more and more like a grouch and a buzzkill for pointing this and details of her abysmal public record out—I’m becoming the one you turn off,turn away from at parties,if people still gave parties.

      But I am not inclined to flinch from the truth,and the truth is her record is  horrible,plus as a personality she’s vain.

    • #376361
      D503
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      Don’t forget Shirley Chisolm..

      "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Asimov; "If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." - Fud's First Law of Opposition

    • #376366
      gordyfl
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      Almost all of them preferred Kamala over Biden. For some of them, Kamala was their top choice in the Dem Primary. Most of them never liked Bernie or Tulsi, and later they even turned against AOC and Ilhan. Also, they are all Russiagaters.

    • #376375
      PADemD
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      Can’t she just answer a direct question without laughing?

    • #377096
      closeupready
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      I grew up in a village in the midwest, and moved away for career reasons, as did many of my peers from that time – one of my closest friends ended up in the Seattle area, while I ended up on the east coast, and so though we still occasionally say hi, and text, I haven’t seen her for decades now.   Sadly, her health hasn’t been great.

      Well the other day, I received a call (while I was driving) that went to voicemail.  I was a little puzzled, why would she be calling me out of the blue after a year or two (since we last spoke)?  I mean, it’s always welcome, but I had no idea what was up.  I hope she’s not ill, I thought.

      Later at home, I listened to the message:  she told me that she’s going to Biden/Harris parties and asked me to call her to sort of high-five about it.  Left unsaid but implied was, let’s talk about how wonderful this is.  Well most of you here on JPR know I wouldn’t have had anything positive to say, so I haven’t yet returned her call.

      She’s entitled to vote however she wants, and to subscribe to any political philosophy she wants, but I’m unwilling to play stupid, and we’d probably end up arguing, and maybe even fall out over it.  Not worth it.  At any rate, it will take me some time to process why things ended up like this when we had so much in common as youngsters.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #377149
      MizzGrizz
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      ..@closeupready.

      One of my cubhood friends,who is still dear to me,said she wanted no one to write anything derogatory  about Biden on her Facebook page the night he won.I honored her wish.But I don’t understand her.

      I remember friends I knew from other political sites that I don’t recognize now.I wonder if I changed,or if they did.

    • #377326
      MizzGrizz
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      @closeupready.I lurked since this site began,loved reading the intelligent comments I saw,as opposed to the automatic authoritarianism I saw many other places.

      You aren’t letting me down with this election.You’re all as insightful as ever.

      Critical thinking seems to be a lost art,but I am just relieved some people still know how to use it.

      I’m proud to be among such good company.We will have much to sustain one another about in days ahead.

      Why so many,especially so many my age,don’t comprehend this,I will never understand.

    • #377361
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      “she’s pretty and she knows it”

      not so pretty anymore i think

      “Both Biden and Harris were on the short list BEFORE the primaries. Our candidates are mostly chosen for us.”

      for sure.  pretty obvious this time with the Clyburn play

    • #377407
      MizzGrizz
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      @coldmountaintrail,beginning in January 2020.

      To one who was watching,it was plain as day what the system wanted.Joe was sufficiently old and conservative,and it was his turn.I mean that’s how these so called people think.

      And the Camel was a younger version of those conservatives,she and Buttigieg a guarantee that the Reagan Revolution will continue us into the next generation,even if the younger folks want something different.

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