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    DNC’s transition team grows after grumbling on the left

    * This is suppose to be a confidence builder..really? The purity charge is suggested. Seriously, can someone explain to me that since we have not been “pure” and that its clear we should not go there now…why have we suffered so many losses over the last 8 years being “impure”?

     

    By David Weigel March 17 at 10:02 PM
    It could, and should, have been a minor news item; the Democratic National Committee announced a “transition team” as new chair Tom Perez consolidated control.

    But as Democrats keep finding out, any move inside the party is watched by some supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for evidence of betrayal. The 29-member transition team was scoured for supporters of Rep. Keith Ellison’s (D-Minn.) bid against Perez — a campaign in which fewer than 440 people voted — and found wanting. The list’s only high-profile supporter of Sanders was Pramila Jayapal, a new member of Congress from Washington.

    “Putting one person who supported Bernie Sanders on your list — it’s a slap in the face,” said Cenk Uygur, the host of the progressive web news series The Young Turks, on a Thursday episode. “We gave the most popular politician in the country one vote, what more do you want?”

    Earlier in 2017, Uygur launched “Justice Democrats,” a project designed to replace “corporate” incumbents with primary challengers. And TYT’s chief correspondent on the DNC race, Nomiki Konst, is a member of the more diversified “unity commission,” tasked with reforming party rules ahead of the 2020 primaries — a priority of Sanders.

    In statements, Perez and Ellison tried to cool off the accusations of bad faith.

    “The transition advisory committee is just a start to the broader transition efforts,” said Perez spokeswoman Xochitl Hinojosa. “Over the weeks to come, Tom Perez and DNC leadership will continue meeting with key stakeholders in our big tent party, including progressive leaders, labor and experts in various fields to discuss priorities for the DNC, grassroots organizing, reaching key voters who were left behind this last election, and raising the resources needed to succeed.”

    Ellison told the Huffington Post that he was proud to see a few allies on the committee, and on Twitter, he criticized progressives who were prioritizing party purity while President Trump was introducing an austere budget.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/03/17/dncs-transition-team-grows-after-grumbling-on-the-left/?utm_term=.6fadc7feccfb

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    • HassleCat (766 posts)
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      1. Transition? From what to what?

      From more of the same to much more of the same?

      • Jefferson23 (4429 posts)
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        2. Good questions.

        Be an impure politician seems to be considered a good idea as far as I can tell…aka I take corporate monies b/c I have to, so leave me be.

      • Ferd Berfel (3948 posts)
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        23. purging progressives and replacing with centrist

        Republicans of course. Transitioning to corporate whore

        …and you think you’re going to stop this simply by ‘pulling a lever’, in a booth, behind a curtain, every 2 years? - Know yourself. And if you need help with that, call the FBI. -  There is only ONE solution to this mess:  New Party !  
    • UnicornOnTheCob (1275 posts)
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      3. This

      Ellison told the Huffington Post that he was proud to see a few allies on the committee, and on Twitter, he criticized progressives who were prioritizing party purity while President Trump was introducing an austere budget.

       

      I get where Ellison is coming from, but I view the Democratic Party as it exists today as the opposition in addition to the Republicans. Yes, we have a common enemy in Trump, but the enemy of my enemy is the one keeping progressives out of office, not my friend.

       

       
      • Jefferson23 (4429 posts)
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        5. I don't get where Ellison is coming from, who is supportive of Trump policies?

        I despise the man and so do the vast majority of progressives for Bernie. Who is he referring to? He is not aware of how she lost in key states she ignored? The bullshit idea we’re asking for purity…he should translate what he means to say and be done with it. If he thinks the DNC vote to keep corporate monies in and their preferred consultants is a minor problem for the party he is mistaken.

        • ThomPaine (3446 posts)
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          15. I think what he is trying to say is, "Hey progressives, look at Trump, the sky

          is falling and you need to knuckle under.”   Frack you Keith and your horse too.

          aka rhett o rick.     The rich treat us like ants. They may avoid stepping on us, but if our home is in the way of their new swimming pool, we can kiss our ants goodbye.
          • Jefferson23 (4429 posts)
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            17. I don't know how else to interpret it. Demanding purity..yes, since we ever

            had any of that in my life time. Very disappointing but perhaps that is why Bernie’s recent interview referred to their approach as the Titanic approach.

      • Peacebird (826 posts)
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        8. I agree with you. The corporatist dems are also our enemy.

      • BuySellTrade (316 posts)
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        25. The Democratic party should be offering an alternative budget rather

        than whining and gnashing teeth and blaming supposed Russians influence on Trump.

    • Ohio Barbarian (2773 posts)
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      4. Fuck you, Keith Ellison!

      No, progressives who are pissed off that the DNC is excluding the Bernie supporters from roles with any real power do NOT necessarily think that Hillary Clinton is a worse enemy than Donald Trump. I despise Trump, and will oppose him in every way I can, just as I despise Hillary, and will continue to oppose Her and her DLC ilk in every way that I can.

      Being opposed to one does not mean support for the other, and that is exactly what you just implicitly accused the Bernie people of doing, Ellison.

      That’s unfair, that’s a lie, that’s shameless corporate Democratic propaganda. You have lost whatever respect I once had for you, Congresscritter Ellison.

      "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
      • Jefferson23 (4429 posts)
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        6. Exactly.

      • Haikugal (5244 posts)
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        12. Thank you for this post!

          Be the bird.....       Hey DNC! Up Yours! It's ON!! Kick against the pricks!!!
        • Ohio Barbarian (2773 posts)
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          21. You are most welcome.

          I now understand Mark Twain’s perspective on feudalism. OP coming soon.

          "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
      • ThomPaine (3446 posts)
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        28. Well said.

        aka rhett o rick.     The rich treat us like ants. They may avoid stepping on us, but if our home is in the way of their new swimming pool, we can kiss our ants goodbye.
    • zeemike (1042 posts)
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      7. The fact that they need a transition team says it all

      The party leadership has become too big and self important…the fact it takes 29 people to transition after an election proves it. And it is likely that none of the leadership will change a damn thing.

      You see things; and you say “Why?” But I dream things that never were; and I say “Why not?”
      • Jefferson23 (4429 posts)
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        20. They might want to try a pure honest corporate free agenda…since they

        haven’t in ages….they might actually win.

    • PaganVoter (95 posts)
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      9. Rep. Ellison, it's running the Dem Party as a welfare program for failures in

      leadership that spurs me to openly criticize Dem leaders like Tom Perez, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, President Obama and the Clinton gang.  I guess I will now have to add you to the list of failed leaders.  You sound like Perez’s lackey.

      • ZimInSeattle (822 posts)
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        10. "Perez’s lackey", exactly. Until the Dems vote no corporate money and abolish

        the superdelegates there’s no reason to even pay any attention to them.

        "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK | Bernie would have WON! |“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith |“Fascism is a result of the failure of the left to provide an alternative” - Leon Trotsky | Sanders/Gabbard 2020 (PPP)
      • Ohio Barbarian (2773 posts)
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        22. Bulls-eye!

        Love the cat in your avatar, BTW. Looks like one of ours that died about a year ago, and we miss him very much. 

        "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
        • PaganVoter (95 posts)
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          24. Sorry to hear that. I'm down to 3 cants

          Had 6.  Lost one of my boys, Samhain, a black cat with orange eyes, just before Memorial Day last year.

    • leveymg (2496 posts)
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      11. Those who are screwed by the DNC still have to praise it. Bernie now Keith

      To run against them and beat them is to be silenced by them.

      • Jefferson23 (4429 posts)
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        13. I find Bernie's recent interview and his reference to those willing to

        go down with the Titanic as long as they have first class seats not a coincidence…..considering the info in this OP.

    • djean111 (3830 posts)
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      14. Let me translate this into what Ellison really means –

      “priorities for the DNC, grassroots organizing, reaching key voters who were left behind this last election, and raising the resources needed to succeed” actually means  “we need to get Bernie’s list.  Fuck the issues.  We can squeal BIG TENT!!!!!  when asked about the issues.  We just need Bernie’s list.”

      You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
      • Jefferson23 (4429 posts)
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        16. I have to tell ya, I don't find what he said encouraging at all. Who in the hell

        is he referring to? I don’t like the inference of the purity meme. When in the fuck have they been pure? The suggestion seems to me we should not be as if they ever were. It is true gerrymandering played a role, but you would have to be a fool to believe the party has suffered massive losses because of that alone. The donor class won again imo…no change and yet Ellison is referring to some fantastical imaginary group of people who are prioritizing “purity”..b/c their methods have proven so effective thus far. Que the Twilight Zone music.

        • leveymg (2496 posts)
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          18. To tell you the truth, buyer beware applies to everyone the DNC even considers

          for national posts.  Membership on the national committee is not disqualifying, but considering who actually runs the Party, I find it increasingly difficult to get optimistic that personnel changes are really going to change anything.

          • Jefferson23 (4429 posts)
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            19. I agree. I find Ellisons remarks bullshit and not at all encouraging.

            That he feels compelled to speak that way is absurd. The DNC decided once again to side with corporate money so what is different? They haven’t had a purity approach in my life time….it’s another word used against the idea of standing for something again. He will need to hope scary Trump brings them some seats, but I will not be supporting the DNC agenda. It is clear enough they were reluctant to even have Bernie supporters involved until they complained. That is why I question the timing of Bernie’s recent remarks..so far this reeks of the same old same old.

    • WillyT (7807 posts)
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      26. Thank You For This !!!

      :fistbump:

       

      • Jefferson23 (4429 posts)
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        27. Happy to do so, WillyT.

        :hi: