Don’t Let Democrats Become the Party of War

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    • #20394
      ZimInSeattle
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      I replied in a tweet that it was too late, but good article.

      In their zeal to oppose any policy associated with Trump, the Democratic Party’s leaders in Congress are starting to sound like warmongers.

      BY TRITA PARSI, STEPHEN WERTHEIM | FEBRUARY 4, 2019, 3:40 PM

      This month, the president of the United States will meet for a second time with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Either the path toward peace for 75 million Koreans will advance, or it will reverse into recriminations and nuclear threats. In the coming months, too, the president may act on his desire to withdraw thousands of U.S. troops from ill-conceived, open-ended missions in Syria and Afghanistan—or he will continue to keep them in harm’s way, with no strategy for victory in sight.

      If the president taking these actions were not Trump, many of his domestic detractors would likely welcome progress toward diplomacy and peace. Yet over the past six months, politicians and experts have repeatedly done the opposite. They have urged this most impulsive and unprincipled of presidents to undertake more international conflict, not less. In the few instances in which Trump has sought to de-escalate violence, he has drawn howls from the national security establishment, including Democratic Party leaders. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, for example, dubbed the Syria pullout a “Christmas present to Vladimir Putin.” Now a majority of Senate Democrats have voted to oppose a “precipitous withdrawal” from Syria and Afghanistan.

      The gambit to out-hawk Trump is a dangerous one. It may have already influenced the administration to slow its departure from Syria and withhold peace-building measures from North Korea. And it threatens to turn the Democratic Party into a party of war. As progressives seek to develop a new foreign policy, they should reject the party’s drift toward belligerence and rescue diplomacy from Trump and the Democratic establishment alike.

      Beginning with the initial Singapore summit with North Korea in June 2018, and continuing after Trump declared in December that he would pull 2,000 U.S. ground troops out of Syria, Trump’s critics have converged around one line of attack: that the president formulated and executed his decisions through a flawed policy process. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer scorned the Singapore summit as “little more than a handshake and a photo-op.”

      More: https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/04/dont-let-democrats-become-the-party-of-war-trump-syria-afghanistan-north-korea-pelosi-schumer/

      "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK "If wars can be started by lies, they can be stopped by truth." ~ Julian Assange #SurviveAndRevolt

    • #20396
      JustSayin
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      too late…8 years and a Obomba late, expanded 2 wars to 7 all using the race card while he stole 5.1 mn homes

      Never expect different result by following the previous steps

      • #20449
        Passionate Progressive
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        The barn door has already closed.

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

      • #20451
        Passionate Progressive
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        The Democratic Party centrists joined the neocons with Bill Clinton during the 1990s and pushed the ‘peace through strength’ orthodoxy that never questioned military spending and/or a regime change they didn’t like.

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #20421
      djean111
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      That train has left the station.  Bullet train.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

      A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

    • #20442
      Snort McDork
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      Don’t forget John Bolton. He wants to start bombing Iran.

      What a nice guy he is.

      I'm Snort McDork and I approved this message.

      "I like Birdy Num-Nums"

      If you come for Nina Turner, Your ish better be airtight like Tupperware" -Rashida Talib

    • #20448
      Maedhros
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      Obama increase military operations in Africa by 215% when he took office, ramped up drone strikes in Yemen, leveled Libya, and manipulated us into the Syrian civil war.

      The Democrats have been the war party for some time now.

      His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
      but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
      and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
      more deadly than his right had been.

    • #20454
      ThouArtThat
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      It’s too late – War equal profits – Profits equal privilege – Privilege equals patronage – Patronage equals power.

      “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
      – John F. Kennedy

      “The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine.”
      – George Bernard Shaw

      “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
      - John F. Kennedy

      "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
      - George Orwell

      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
      - Jiddu Krishnamurti

      "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
      - Idries Shah

      "A riot is the language of the unheard."
      - Martin Luther King

    • #20456
      RufusTFirefly
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      An estimated 16,000 U.S. servicemen died in Vietnam during the administration of Lyndon Baines Johnson.

      And, of course, that doesn’t include non-American casualties. LBJ signed some landmark domestic legislation, but his foreign policy created a huge amount of needless death and destruction.

    • #20526
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      Too late!

      I would like to remind you that U.S. health insurance companies do not contribute anything to health care. They are only a PARASITIC middle man receiving an undeserved cut of "FREE MONEY".

      Me

    • #20680
      David the Gnome
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      Ah, but they claim that’s not what they are doing of course.  They say it’s about “strategic withdrawal” primarily because, well, Trump.  Nothing to do with war, lies, endless civilian deaths, suffering.  They are a bunch of assholes.  It’s all about electing more Democrats to them, they dont really care how or who.

      They also do not care that people are dying while they play politics.

    • #20914
      sonofspy777
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      Sound like? OMG they are completely in the MIC’s pocket!

      “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
      ~Samuel Clemens

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